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Nickatilynx 12-13-2005 03:46 PM

Re: How fucking sad is today's webmaster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DannyCox
*cough* *cough* :rolleyes:

Flew past you in 97 ;-))))

You know why I remember?

Cause I used to hit you up for links and shit and you'd ignore me (or whoever was handling that...probably Evil ChrisLOL)!!!

So me and my brother went :

"Right!! Fuck it!!! We'll have them!!!

Plus I also remember ripping into blaise was it at WSS "I'm number one..why it it not appearing on my counter button , huh?"

Oh and Nero and Bode at sextracker calling me asking me to use his counter and offering all sorts of shit if I did...LOL

;-))



LOL

We were vindictive bastards then...lol

First one that we wanted to over take in the counters was "Khans Classy Ladies"...

Hence why I also joined Meat at CONDOM lol

DannyCox 12-13-2005 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickatilynx
Flew past you in 97 ;-))))

You know why I remember?

Cause I used to hit you up for links and shit and you'd ignore me (or whoever was handling that...probably Evil ChrisLOL)!!!

I can't even think of what Amatur website you're talking about. Especially back in '97. Who was it?

And yes, Evil Chris was handling the linking stuff in those days.

Nickatilynx 12-13-2005 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DannyCox
I can't even think of what Amatur website you're talking about. Especially back in '97. Who was it?

And yes, Evil Chris was handling the linking stuff in those days.

I called it "Real Amateur Wives"

www.ilynx.com...

hence my name...

:)

And Evil Chris was a snobby bitch to me then....

;-)))

DannyCox 12-13-2005 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickatilynx
I called it "Real Amateur Wives"

www.ilynx.com...

hence my name...

:)

And Evil Chris was a snobby bitch to me then....

;-)))

I remember now! You wanted us to add you to the Amateur Links page on Carol's site, but since ilynx.com was just a mess of links to all sorts of things and only had a handfull of submitted Amateur pictures, we didn't think it fit into our scheme. We only linked to Single Girl Amateur sites in that area.

It really was nowhere near an "Amateur" website ;)

Anthony 12-13-2005 04:24 PM

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I smell a board war about to go!

Sin 12-13-2005 04:24 PM

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You too eh? :D

Nickatilynx 12-13-2005 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DannyCox
I remember now! You wanted us to add you to the Amateur Links page on Carol's site, but since ilynx.com was just a mess of links to all sorts of things and only had a handfull of submitted Amateur pictures, we didn't think it fit into our scheme. We only linked to Single Girl Amateur sites in that area.

It really was nowhere near an "Amateur" website ;)

We had thousands of pics....ok....there were a few blind links too....

And amateur!!!!

Was too!!!! LOL

I stole all the amateur looking content I could find on the newsgroups!!!

;-)))

Nickatilynx 12-13-2005 04:32 PM

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Lets not get into what is amateur and what isn't!!!

;-)))

Nickatilynx 12-13-2005 04:35 PM

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Anyway the surfers in the end decided whose was best...

It won "Best Amateur site as voted on by Surfers" at Internext...

Oh yeah...but then I suppose we did get a million or so more vistors a month....

;-)))

Dravyk 12-13-2005 04:35 PM

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Uh-oh!

http://oprano.com/msgboard/images/smilies/corn.gif It's going to be a looong day. Better have something to eat.

NickJ 12-13-2005 05:20 PM

Re: How fucking sad is today's webmaster
 
Wow, 1997 or even 1996. That is a long time ago even for me. Almost like another world. Someone mentioned that today newbies are content with making an extra 100 bucks a month and I think there are a lot of that.

About the bandwidth. Correct me if I am wrong but to download half a gig of content costs about 30 cents. Forget about spikes at the 95th percentile because at large usage numbers you can get flat fees for bandwidth used. I mentioned this before that I could sell a video for one dollar and still make profit regardless of bandwidth costs. Ask any webmaster here, "where does most of the bandwidth costs come from" and I bet they will answer from the front end where you get hits from surfers who will never ever join your site. It is not becuase the design or the content are no good but becuase they don't want anything to do with the Membership - subscription recurr at higher rate billing method. But, if you give them a one time small charge one time access way of getting off they won't be hitting your front end endlessly bleeding you dry. This is what I found in trial runs. Can you shoot holes in this??

Red 12-13-2005 08:23 PM

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This thread has been a great read.
Welcome to Oprano NickJ. :waving:

I gave you 10 points for a thought provoking entrance.

Osiris 12-13-2005 09:40 PM

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I was just reading somewhere else where a newbie was asking a program owner to mail him links to all their "free promotional materials". Content, Hosted Sites/Gals etc..


Lazy ass fucks..


Sin, you're participating, is it making you think? It should. Now get your ass to work on what I showed you before I have to fondle all your naughty bits.. :D

Sin 12-13-2005 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Osiris
Sin, you're participating, is it making you think? It should. Now get your ass to work on what I showed you before I have to fondle all your naughty bits.. :D

It is making me think, its making me think a lot & driving everybody else who is within vocal vicinity, crazy lol

;)

Thank you again, Osiris, for showing me this board :) :okthumb:

Dravyk 12-13-2005 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Osiris
Lazy ass fucks..

They are!

... But R-n bless those lazy ass fucks!!! ;)

* wibble *

PornoDoggy 12-13-2005 10:58 PM

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There have been a few interesting comments in this thread.

You have to dig through the "I walked two miles to school barefoot in the snow uphill both ways when I was a kid" crap to find them.

The poser comments are the ones that crack me up, though.

Nickatilynx 12-13-2005 11:45 PM

Re: How fucking sad is today's webmaster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osiris
I was just reading somewhere else where a newbie was asking a program owner to mail him links to all their "free promotional materials". Content, Hosted Sites/Gals etc..


Lazy ass fucks..


Sin, you're participating, is it making you think? It should. Now get your ass to work on what I showed you before I have to fondle all your naughty bits.. :D

I hear that is actually the norm...seriously

Anthony 12-13-2005 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickatilynx
I hear that is actually the norm...seriously

It is. :(

Nickatilynx 12-13-2005 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggy
2000 was 6 years ago... 1998 was 8 years ago, and 1996 was 10 years ago.

Comparisons are getting old, the way it is.. is the way it is. It's so easy to get in this industry now, you are going to have people happy to make $100 a month. My guess is a lot of these people are super young and have never made real money in their lives.

Again I agree...

We used to say a week was a long time on the web , with things moving so quick.

8 years is fucking forever...

Osiris 12-14-2005 12:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx
I hear that is actually the norm...seriously


Yes it is. Being a program owner, albeit a small one. People want every goddamn thing handed to them. May as well just send them checks as soon as they sign-up to promote you with attitudes like that.

DannyCox 12-14-2005 01:38 AM

Re: How fucking sad is today's webmaster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx
Anyway the surfers in the end decided whose was best...

It won "Best Amateur site as voted on by Surfers" at Internext...

Oh yeah...but then I suppose we did get a million or so more vistors a month....

;-)))

Yep, you did in the "Best Free Amateur Site" category, but remember that Carol Cox won for both the "Best Pay Amateur Site" and "Hottest Net Star" that same year. ;)

Carol was the number 2 woman based site on the 'net back then as per all the research Danni Ashe did ... http://billiondownloadwoman.com/pop.html

Anyway, It wasn't about the visitors, it was about the money! :okthumb:

PornoDoggy 12-14-2005 01:57 AM

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So ... have we figured out who's dick was the biggest in '97?

In addition to "old folks bitching about how young people don't have it as rough as they did," this thread reminds me of sports franchise owners lamenting player salaries.

The same franchise owner wailing that lament will then sign a player for a salary 10% higher than has ever been paid before.

The only reason that some newbies expect program owners to do everything but wipe their asses is because some of them will do so.

If you put the candy in the bowl, don't yell at the kid not to eat it.

Nickatilynx 12-14-2005 02:07 AM

Re: How fucking sad is today's webmaster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DannyCox
Yep, you did in the "Best Free Amateur Site" category, but remember that Carol Cox won for both the "Best Pay Amateur Site" and "Hottest Net Star" that same year. ;)

Carol was the number 2 woman based site on the 'net back then as per all the research Danni Ashe did ... http://billiondownloadwoman.com/pop.html

Anyway, It wasn't about the visitors, it was about the money! :okthumb:

I was just messing with ya... ;-)))

And you are right. Its ALWAYS about the money ;-))

PD , you are indeed very curmudgeonly this evening...excellent ..:)

Sabby 12-14-2005 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DannyCox
It wasn't about the visitors, it was about the money! :okthumb:

Pearl.

:-pearl:

Thank you Danny :)

That makes your "we all do this for just for fun becuase we love to be naked and show it all for you" clause so much less nauseating... :okthumb:


Sabby:flash:

Nickatilynx 12-14-2005 02:09 AM

Re: How fucking sad is today's webmaster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osiris
Yes it is. Being a program owner, albeit a small one. People want every goddamn thing handed to them. May as well just send them checks as soon as they sign-up to promote you with attitudes like that.

hmmm try an new angle with your program..

"Promote us anyway you like ...go or it...send us traffic by any legal method and we will pay you ..Simplyrich.com" LOL

Ya never know...

Nickatilynx 12-14-2005 02:15 AM

Re: How fucking sad is today's webmaster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DannyCox
Yep, you did in the "Best Free Amateur Site" category, but remember that Carol Cox won for both the "Best Pay Amateur Site" and "Hottest Net Star" that same year. ;)

Carol was the number 2 woman based site on the 'net back then as per all the research Danni Ashe did ... http://billiondownloadwoman.com/pop.html

Anyway, It wasn't about the visitors, it was about the money! :okthumb:

One last jab after the bell...

Wouldn't it have been smart to have been nice and got me as an affiliate sending all that lovely traffic to your site? ;-))

in hindsight...ya know.

But I will grant you that on your site against ilynx.com made way more cash.Wayyyyyy more.

Ilynx was the one I had for show, I had another 1000 for dough...

;-)))

Osiris 12-14-2005 02:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx
hmmm try an new angle with your program..

"Promote us anyway you like ...go or it...send us traffic by any legal method and we will pay you ..Simplyrich.com" LOL

Ya never know...


Hahaha!

NickJ 12-14-2005 07:42 AM

Re: How fucking sad is today's webmaster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red
This thread has been a great read.
Welcome to Oprano NickJ. :waving:

I gave you 10 points for a thought provoking entrance.


Thanks Red, I really appreciate it. I also found this thread interesting and now entertaining too. Most of the time when I make a post like I did before I just get flamed and the idiots who don't make shit start posting pictures of animals in comprimising positions. :okthumb:

Inabon 12-14-2005 10:03 AM

Re: How fucking sad is today's webmaster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NickJ
Wow, 1997 or even 1996. That is a long time ago even for me. Almost like another world. Someone mentioned that today newbies are content with making an extra 100 bucks a month and I think there are a lot of that.

About the bandwidth. Correct me if I am wrong but to download half a gig of content costs about 30 cents. Forget about spikes at the 95th percentile because at large usage numbers you can get flat fees for bandwidth used. I mentioned this before that I could sell a video for one dollar and still make profit regardless of bandwidth costs. Ask any webmaster here, "where does most of the bandwidth costs come from" and I bet they will answer from the front end where you get hits from surfers who will never ever join your site. It is not becuase the design or the content are no good but becuase they don't want anything to do with the Membership - subscription recurr at higher rate billing method. But, if you give them a one time small charge one time access way of getting off they won't be hitting your front end endlessly bleeding you dry. This is what I found in trial runs. Can you shoot holes in this??

if you are going to be doing 30 cents profit per download and as in each download costs you 70cents. are you adding to this hardware expense?

160 gigs of storage is not as easy as 1 big 160 gig harddrive serving thousands of downloads.

your downloads will get slow. you need more hardware and storage and serving hardware is not inexpensive.

for example we host a live tv show that has archives 1 hour videos averaging 150 megabytes per program 5 day a week program. 1 year of storage is 40 gigabytes. the program archives got popular so the harddrive started to slow down serving, so i had to split it in to another harddrive (the easy way is put 20 and 20 per drive) but if you want to do largescale downloading you can't be splitting you have to load balance and those are additional expenses. so if i have a 300 gygabyte box i have to have a second 300 gygabyte box with the same content on each so i can load balance i mean this is to give the user a very decent download 150 to 200 kbps. cause 34 to 64 kbps won't fly specially with adsl becoming popular. panama has more adsl than dial up as a matter of fact next year there won't be any dial up.

i am just trying to see the upside of $2.00 download this is not a 150k manual to get rich this is downloading video.

NickJ 12-14-2005 10:38 AM

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You are obviously more adept in hardware and NOC operations than I am. I do agree with you about the 30 cents per user cost. If there is a 2 dollar charge that leaves 1.70. Take out the merchant account costs of another approx 30 cents you have 1.40. If I got the sale from an affiliate that leaves just 70 cents each. Not a whole lot of money unless of course the conversion rate is 1000 times what would be standard for a subscription model site. And this point has yet to be proven or not except in theory. Also the sale price could be higer than 2.00, maybe 2.99, or 3.50. Who knows? I am not G_d. Just some shmuck with an idea. And maybe it won't work as an affiliate model. Fine, go it alone then. Less trouble. Less scammer and less work.

Anthony 12-14-2005 10:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NickJ
You are obviously more adept in hardware and NOC operations than I am.

This is without a doubt, because he owns a hosting business.

Almighty Colin 12-15-2005 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickatilynx
Plus...the average newbie inour day did not do very good.

We remember the ones that did well at it.Like us.And the ones who just won't leave and get a real job , like Dravyk ;-)))

Yup. Almost every day someone new would show up and post "I am going to be the next Persian Kitty". What happened to all those people? Those burghers went back to burgers.

Almighty Colin 12-15-2005 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickatilynx
Amen brother.

Dumbest thing I ever did was tell Meat the "avs trick".

Might just have well have told Reuters.

Now I play my cards closer to my chest....

Different time....

Plus to be honest the old influx of webmasters were a nicer better bunch.The new ones are wiggas or dopey stupid twats who think they can make a fortune from this business but just really don't have a clue.

Fun watching though :)

I was dumber than that. I published an article in Klixxx back in 2000 or so on something I was doing assuming that the pool was large enough that the influx wouldn't cannibalize my existing business. Wrong!

Almighty Colin 12-15-2005 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PornoDoggy
So ... have we figured out who's dick was the biggest in '97?

Ron had a very big dick in 97

MorganGrayson 12-15-2005 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by NickJ
Thanks Red, I really appreciate it. I also found this thread interesting and now entertaining too. Most of the time when I make a post like I did before I just get flamed and the idiots who don't make shit start posting pictures of animals in comprimising positions. :okthumb:

OT comment, if this thread can be said to have such a thing:
NickJ...don't attend boards that respond to posts with pictures of animals in compromising positions. It's bad for you and bad for the animals. :)

Nickatilynx 12-15-2005 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Almighty Colin
Ron had a very big dick in 97

He was a huge dick in 97.

:)

Inabon 12-27-2005 10:21 AM

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well nickj i see you are going for your business model however like i told you before it is pretty slow lots of buffering.

what kind of bandwidth are you burining on previews alone?

MikeFold 12-27-2005 11:53 AM

Re: How fucking sad is today's webmaster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx
One last jab after the bell...


Ilynx was the one I had for show, I had another 1000 for dough...

;-)))


hmmm...I wonder who used this analogy a few times during seminars..

...let me think...

Mike AI 12-27-2005 12:04 PM

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This thread has some very ironic posts. Lot of people still blowing smoke.

Dravyk 12-27-2005 04:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike AI
This thread has some very ironic posts. Lot of people still blowing smoke.

Here, have a fan. :fanning:


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