Yes, AVN has booked the entire hotel. (They still sell the rooms though, not AVN. Internext makes no money off the rooms or any other amenities.... which is silly of em really. LOL..)

So, you're correct, people without badges will not be able to enter the hotel. There'll be security at the door checking badges.

Thanks for the clarification Aly

That's interesting

While I don't know AVN's business form the inside it looks like AVN could stand to lose $ if there are not a lot of attendees (am sure the X number to profit has been figured out long ago and AVN decided to take the rick)

While I'm not a member of the AVN fan club it would be a shame (or an opportunity) to see the Internext shows ended due to lack of attendance


and for the record I don't think $250 is to high a price but ..........

We'll see what happens

I agree. It's a risk and we'll just have to see how it goes down.

hmmm, if I do end up attending, I'll just leave the wife home.......which should probably be the right course of action anyways...thanks AVN for giving me a real reason to give my wife why she can't attend ;-) I'll explain that extra $250 could go for shoes...

I was there last year, and it seems to me that the floor was empty most days, was the hotel full last year with just industry people?

how will this effect the debauchary levels allowed at the partes? could someone say like have a strip poker tournament?

Ah, less competition for the hot tub :)
Sounds good to me!

Jesus fucking Christ almighty...have we come to this!!!

snorting fucking tea...



;-))))

Jesus fucking Christ almighty...have we come to this!!!

snorting fucking tea...



;-)))) [/b][/quote]
Don't knock it till you've tried it!

Fresh Sumatran's best really.

It was largely industry people, but not exclusively at all. Anyone could come.

As for the strip poker... you know I'm on it! B)

Okay... apparently the strip poker tournament's off because hotel employees are considered 'the public' as far as decency is concerned. However, I've heard a rumour: What happens in Joe's room stays in Joe's room... ;)

In other somewhat related news... The Trade Show department just offered up an oprano competition: "If people only post nice things about Internext until the show, we'll make Aly wear a G-string, and only a G-string, for the duration of Internext."

Well now, if that isn't 'indecent' by definition, I don't know what is! :huh:

>>"If people only post nice things about Internext until the show, we'll make Aly wear a G-string, and only a G-string, for the duration of Internext."

:lol: :lol: :lol:

does that mean when the show is over, we can return to our regularly scheduled put downs?!?!? :yowsa:

ABSOLUTELY! It just wouldn't feel right without em. :unsure:

This is a good thread. I have no idea whether i'm gonna go to a show this year or not. Haven't been to one since New orleans but I like the chages I read here from the feedback I've gotten from others on previous shows.

Did TE just sell AVN an ad?

I thought only our advertisers tried to hold up sponsor money for ransom!

Seriously Aly...I just wanted to start another feedback thread. Youve answered my questions and I guess we will wait and see.

Dont worry about me wearing only a G string though. Saucerhead would get cut in two.

Did TE just sell AVN an ad?

I thought only our advertisers tried to hold up sponsor money for ransom!

Seriously Aly...I just wanted to start another feedback thread. Youve answered my questions and I guess we will wait and see.

Dont worry about me wearing only a G string though. Saucerhead would get cut in two. [/b][/quote]
aaaw... c'mon! I will if you will! (don't hold me to that)

Thanks for starting the thread, it's good to address concerns. :)

well i'm going to skip san diego since there wont be any brandon beating going on, so i'll hit florida. 250 bucks....eh, who gives a shit? i'm sure all non-sponsors will be lapping up that much $ worth of free drinks.

aaaw... c'mon! I will if you will! (don't hold me to that)

Thanks for starting the thread, it's good to address concerns. :) [/b][/quote]
I remember being in the Purecash booth 2 years ago with a black leather bag. Mike AI really didnt think Id peel off a shirt and put on a fur coat and go bare bellied on the convention floor.

Moral of this story is dont throw down unless your prepared to skin it back!

The thread was my pleasure...heres to business in Miami.

One more question. Can we get a list of those educational seminars and whos on the panels before the show? I need all the help I can get.

Hmm. Does that apply to Vegas '06 as well?

only stupid tourists come to Fl in Aug, so buying up the entire hotel is not a big deal.

But i dont understand one thing, if one needs a badge to get inside the hotel.
And to get a bandge one must go inside the hotel first
How do we go about getting a badge than ?

Internext has been falling off year after year...
Myself and everyone I know are spending less and less time on the show floor, unless they are exhibiting. Very little business gets done. Each year, the vegas show and miami show get more similar in size.

I think the sign of an increasing price is due to the fact that the shows and attendance are falling off, but I can be wrong. This is just my opinion.

WOOT WOOT Aly in a G string......
think Oprano can do it ? shit that is a long time away still yet ...

Thanks for the Poker checking.... :okthumb:

Always a pleasure to hear from you ALY.... :D

Mixed feelings from this corner.

$250 is nothing in the grand scheme of things. The guys that are scared off by $250 are likely ones that it isn't worth the time to actually talk to anyway. If it scares off a chunk of the crowd that is only there to party, it's a good thing.

AVN gets away with charging what they charge and running shows the way they do because they deliver huge numbers of attendees compared to the other shows. The real question here is whether they can do this with the new format and pricing. If they can, it's all good.

Credit where it's due, they just figured out how to charge to sit at the hotel bar and do business at a big show.

>>Credit where it's due, they just figured out how to charge to sit at the hotel bar and do business at a big show.

exactly ;-)

so they were listening to us all along ;-)

Having never bothered to fly over from Aus for the show, I certianly can't say this for sure, but I have heard that the shows keep getting smaller. Is that true ?

Personally I would much rather go to one of the European shows than the US ones because of all the negative feedback I have had from friends who have gone. I also heard that you get a lot more biz done at the European shows.

thoughts ?

Cant say that ive gotten good feedback about the EU shows from people who have been to both...

Here are some of the key features and benefits the Summer Internext Conference has added since last year:

- They've paid the hotel a lump sum for wireless Internet access to be turned on in every possible corner of the property. Meeting space, the exhibit hall, seminar rooms, the lobby, restaurants, swimming pool....etc. This allows for all attendees to do get online freely.

- They're building up the Seminar program so that it is on par with what is now done at the Vegas show. Typically the summer event has only had 6 or 7 seminars. This year there will be a full seminar program, designed to deliver the same educational value that people have come to expect from the larger Winter event.

- They will be providing complimentary Breakfast (in the Feature Pavilion/Exhibit Hall foyer) and Lunch outside the seminar room.

- They are shutting down the entire Diplomat Resort for Internext. Other than the convention center lobby (registration area), no one will set foot on hotel property without a badge. This is a tremendous benefit to all show participants. This is an exclusive Industry event. Only those individuals who are looking to do business will be there.

- As requested, they are mailing badges out prior to the event to all pre-registered show goers. This will cut down the wait time on-site.

Overall this event is about ACCESS.
Participants pay for a badge that grants them access to the market they want to reach – the people they want to do business with, access to the seminars, access to parties, access to do business without restriction anywhere and anytime. The point is, once you get the badge - the entire resort property becomes your business forum. You are paying for access and Internext is creating the optimal atmosphere conducive to your business needs.

- There are also other networking events currently being designed to offer additional benefits to all attendees.

B)

I think it is a terriffic value then Aly, cause if you factor in that a hamburger there costs 18 bucks for lunch, and breakfast was equally outragous a person saves a minimum of 50 bucks a day just on the food aspect.

The in room connection for the internet was another 20 bucks a day

so now that these items are included, I think it is definatly a significant improvement to the overall value of money that a person will spend to attend! :okthumb:

shit just on the money a person saves on the aforementioned items over the course of the three days, it is almost as if the show badge was free!

because eveybody knows that is where you eat at anyway ( except for dinner maybe)

and who in their right mind would rather be in their room on internet, as oppossed to the lobby or better yet the pool even where they can do both the internet, and see prospective business walk by?

KUDOS TO YOU ALY for such a great explanation.

I really do not see any problem with the restricted access to the hotel.

If you can not pay 250 bucks to get into the show you are obviously there to

A. Gawk at porn stars and internet models

B. Get Drunk at the party of some company that you will never send enough business to, to cover the cost of the booze you swill

ahh so your gonna throw in a lunch.. that clears up everything....

lobster n cristal? i mean for the extra 100 bucks id figure it should be a pretty good lunch.

Lunch, Breakfast, and internet connection ....

day one breakfast -- 20 bucks minimum
day one lunch -- 20 bucks minimum ( for you more like 30 bucks) LOL
day one internet access 20 bucks

total savings day one ----- $60 bucks x 3 days = $180.00

total additional cost of ticket = $100.00
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Total savings incurred at minimumal number examples = $80.00


( I know math was not a required subject in south carolina)
Just looking out for you bro :D

Hummm so if Silvercash has a bikini contest I guess it would hold the girls to only those who are registered for the show to be in the contest ?

Just wondering, if you were single what happens if you bring a friend over to hang out with you ??

I see SOME problems, and Florida is one of my favorite shows, not AVN of course.

I thought, when I posted, I knew what I was saying...now I'm not so sure, cj. :)

I believe what I'm saying is an event can charge what the market will bear. Period.

The previous price was 150., I believe...and, quite frankly, I don't remember seeing too many non industry people there....I would think, if they charge 250, there would be even less..

What I was saying, also...is that any event should take care when they raise their rates by more than a little...whether it's a good idea remains to be seen...but, Aly said it best when she said it would be a PR nightmare.

Personally, Florida is not my favourite show...even though the networking can be incredible when you take over an entire hotel....that lobby alone is priceless..sell booth space and table space in the lobby and that would be worth something....prime real estate...
Then again, I tried to get a banner at the Grand Luxe at one of the tables near the edge..where the wrought iron was..it was the place to see and be seen....great marketing, but they said no....

There is a point at which people will weigh the costs, no matter how many bells and whistles are added....and, depending on who the target audience is..for these events....well, I guess that determines the cost.

I personally believe that $250. is too high to get into a show. And, let's say my husband were not part of the industry. To bring him and have to pay for a ticket, when he would not partake of anything other than the heavenly bed..well...

There are plenty of opportunities to have private, high end meetings amongst program owners and those with a higher income.....Island Gathering comes to mind....

But, Internext..? It's supposed to be a trade show, yes?

The price of admission to a trade show should be in accordance with what is being offered. And, what am I being offered at a trade show..? The ability to stay in a hotel....for which I get a discount, which is nice...I get to see all of the new programs and toys and products, etc...and I get to network......and the price of admission....should reflect that. I don't see where it does.

I may pay for it or not....and many people may bitch about it; but, the bottom line is this. If this is a show which will benefit your bottom line, then I suppose it doesn't matter what is charged.

I like the added features...but, ya know..there are those who aren't quite there yet....who should be at these shows, where 250. is a lot of money, when factored into the airfare, the hotel stay, food, etc.....

I thought the Diplomat these past three years WAS closed to the public, although I would see non internext people there....

I don't believe that those who cannot afford the rising costs should not be there....sometimes they are the very ones who should be there..they are on their way up.....

Aly, I think Joe just gave you your angle for justifying the price rise ;-)

When you break it down in terms of how much the person *saves* by buying the ticket, it looks like a great value show!

It really doesn't matter to me how much the ticket costs though, because by the time I get there comfortably and stay a week or 2, i'm looking at $20k ... the more time goes on in this industry, the more of us who will just be attending local gatherings in our area because the time and expense is unnecessary.

The thought of spending 30 hours travelling just to get to a 3 day event makes me puke :)

I concur! The thought of travelling 30hrs for anything whatsoever makes me a little wobbly, too! LOL..

I have to agree with what Raven hinted at...

The $250 hike for a ticket cost, like it or not, is going to deter those webmasters who SHOULD be at the show from turning up... The newbies.

I dont know about anyone else but i would rather have the chance at snagging 10 newbies than 1 midbie at the show.

Its easier to get a noob to do what you want with their traffic than it is someone who has been around for a few years ;)

>Its easier to get a noob to do what you want with their traffic than it is someone who has been around for a few years


nice theory ... what's the chance any of the 10 noobs you are chasing over 1 midbie might ever have any traffic?

Lunch, Breakfast, and internet connection ....

day one breakfast -- 20 bucks minimum
day one lunch -- 20 bucks minimum ( for you more like 30 bucks) LOL
day one internet access 20 bucks

total savings day one ----- $60 bucks x 3 days = $180.00

total additional cost of ticket = $100.00
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Total savings incurred at minimumal number examples = $80.00


( I know math was not a required subject in south carolina)
Just looking out for you bro :D [/b][/quote]
at 1st she said
"We're arranging at least one (possibly more) networking lunch with topics by table.
24 tables. Probably on a first-come-first served basis. (which is why this may carry on for more than one day)"

then she upped the anti to

- They will be providing complimentary Breakfast (in the Feature Pavilion/Exhibit Hall foyer) and Lunch outside the seminar room.

Exactly!!!

I suppose its not really a $ issue, its the issue of the 18 hours travel time and 18 hours travel time back (if your flights work out perfectly), the day of jet lag, the 3 days of the convention... Generally you are almost talking a week.

That is a long time to be away from your business. Its good to see a small group in Australia have started trying to host our own shows. Makes more sense.

Sausage, where are you located?

We've been having regular get togethers down here in Sydney, and occasional ones on the Gold Coast ...

there's enough of us here that we could almost fill an internext :rolleyes: