true i noticed that for example a trial of 4.95 or higher i get better signups than the 1 dollar BS. Surfers see 1 dollar and think "whats the catch"

But now i stay strictly to no trial options if i am doing rev share. [/b][/quote]
SottPB taught me this a long time ago.. the price point has nothing to do with the sale. To a porn surfer who wants in, the difference between 20 and 30 bucks is negligible... People are smart enough to know what a rebill is.

I'll throw in a few things

No one is "afraid" of profit. If you're afraid of $ I'll give you my paypal address and be glad to help you with your problem

Way back when more $ was to be made owning paysites. The first thing I ever did was open a paysite (8/17/97 launch date). Built free sites as feeders

Could be wrong (and please correct me if I am) but looks now the most $ to be made in the TGP business is by selling traffic.
What I've wondered for a while and where I am not getting the business model is this traffic has to be buying something, somewhere or the traffic could not be continued to be sold as long as it has. I thought (wrongly) the model would collapse as TGP traffic is a tough conversion

Admittedly I buy TGP traffic occasionally but I beat the hell out of it and then send it out for other traffic

I've been one of the most outspoken regarding the pain the deluge of free porn has caused. No one will disagree porn membership sites sales would increase if there was less free porn available but the genii's out of the bottle (there are other contributing factors such as the bloom being off the internet rose so to speak, funky billing practices and so on ...)

I was taught the same lesson by Scottpb.

And then did experimentation to see if he was right.

He was.Makes very little odds , so take it all the way to 29.95.

However......what about this idea....

You smack the surfer for 29.95 thats for a 3 mth trial say.
You then recur at 9.95 thereafter.

I bet those suckers recur for ever.

Thoughts?

It's very true

Still have recurs with Ibill (which I haven't offered as a billing option for almost 3 years) at the $10 price point

I'm not thinking of this as my main earner , but it will be a small part of the New Empire slowly being built , restored or renovated with the help of Gonzo , Joesho , and many other members of the Oprano family. :)


;-))))

Nick,
I'd say it may be a little different now than 3 years ago
More savvy surfers, those who cancel memberships within minutes of buying, those who know about recurring billing

But still at the 10 price point I'd think more will stay, they did for me way back

We have pay sites that happily rebill month after month at 10. These are the ones we are not updating, so the price point stays that way and we avoid chargebacks and the consumer forgets about it on his credit card bill.

Back in the day, we had a 14.95 trial that lasted two weeks, and then rebilled at 19.95, which was the magic number for the site....that's when we ran spanking pay sites...before they were popular....

I think one of the problems with tgp and link lists are the damned rules. Why would I want to give the surfer so many images or movies at the highest quality, when it's always worked better to give the surfer a hint of a hard on, rather than the entire orgasmic enchilada.

For those of you 'not' into mailing, I've been told I write marketable text mailer ads. Not that I would do that, mind you.

interesting...

Well, all I know is this.

The last tour we had had 6 pages and 3 of them had 1-2 minute clips of action then the join page. the new tour is 2 pages and the join page with NO free clips and sells almost twice as well. Seems to fit the topic here.

Now we have create multiple seperate tours each 2 pages long then the join page, but none with free clips etc, going to let affiliate pick which tour they want to send the traffic to. should be interesting to see how that works.

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assloads

ASSLOADS of money to be made in free porn

Think it's been said somewhere here but that would depend on your definition of what a significant income is

Think it's been said somewhere here but that would depend on your definition of what a significant income is [/b][/quote]
true dat ... on the scheme of things... all of porn isn't but a blip on a fart on the radar.

really tho ... I'm not sure WTF I'd do with myself if I made hundreds of millions of dollars a day like MS, Ford, or Exxon.

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for someone who can't count, you sure got a lot of pearls worked into that 1 post!!! :P

Its not that we are afraid to profit from free porn as the thread asks, its that most of us already have, and will NEVER be able to replicate the success we have had in the past.

If we could, we would be doing it and not talking about it on a board. If you are making so much money from TGP's, why do you want more people to do it? Doesn't make any sense why you are so determined to get those who don't follow the tgp business model to copy yours ...