funny story about Jackie
we were chatting in the back of a limo at one of the shows and thought we had the same last name, so joked about being related....they are close, but not the same...it wasn't til she handed me one of her cards in Vancouver that I realized our last names were different... [/b][/quote]
ummm lance...

that wasn't funny.

Had to be there I suppose...



;-)))

yeah, I realized that after I posted...it was a "you had to be there" kind of thing

unless it was the story about the donkeys and the mexican dancing girl...

when you do get your arses to vancouver you must make sure you come and see jackie and I about getting some shit worked out with our affiliate programs.

Louise Ford given you a call recently? She's supposed to have been getting our content sorted out, but haven't heard anything for quite a long time now.

yeah, I realized that after I posted...it was a "you had to be there" kind of thing

unless it was the story about the donkeys and the mexican dancing girl... [/b][/quote]
now that story is funny!!!


;-))

now that story is funny!!!


;-)) [/b][/quote]
although it wasn't very funny for the donkey...

what did/does kaiser run?

Great thread Nick :okthumb:

He was Chief Operating Office at Netpond.

til I replaced him with Anthony.

ahahahahaha
He even tried to make Anthony quit when he knew Anthony wasn't gonna put up with his shit.

Actually I still owe you a lunch too leedsfan.

How about Glowbal next week in Yaletown? Promise I'll make time. A man gotta eat :)

Btw a little bird told me you pointed out to Bradley Shaw and justblowme that there traffic is down 35% , and yet they still want to charge more for advertising.

Awesome.

Heard it went really quiet after that,,,


ahahahahaha [/b][/quote]
you're on. never turn down a free lunch. well there are exceptions. i think i've made that pretty clear.

mon/tue/thurs are best. Glowbal is cool with me.

Shame on ya Gigi! :ph34r:

Btw, Ant called me a bit ago as we're doing some business together and I informed him of the "Kaiser thread" here and he said "Damn! I'm on the road! Damn!" and asked me to please post the following for him, and that he would hopefully add more later.

Anthony: "Kaiser, that cocksucker!"

you're on. never turn down a free lunch. well there are exceptions. i think i've made that pretty clear.

mon/tue/thurs are best. Glowbal is cool with me. [/b][/quote]
leedsfan, tell Jackie to hit me up on ICQ when she has a chance. :)

So much I can say about Kaiser, but he's not worth it.

I have too much good shit happening in my life now to complain on what some broke down pimp did to me and my friends half a decade ago.

Karma is a bitch.

Kath, Bishop and I would talk about how he had you entranced, unfortunately, we didn't know you well enough for us to say anything, and at that time, I don't think you would have listened anyway. I'll be in Vegas, and in lieu of Nick, would be more than happy to hear the sordid details of the past.

If anything, to make a positive out of the "Kaiser Experience"... I made life long friends, and have memories that others only dream about!

I should really thank that fuck Kaiser for being the snake that he is. Because if he had not have been, I would have not been given the chances that I got.

So, thanks Bruce for being Kaiser! You did an awesome job fucking everyone. Of course, those you fucked are still around, you on the other hand...

Karma is a bitch.

funny how it always works out like that :)

its so true, that when someone scams me, i just know they will be gone within 6 months - it has hit close to home twice in my career.

whenever i start something serious with someone, i pull out the tony montana line "dont fuck me"

No shit!!!

Nice to see you here , hooper :)

Who owns adtech?

Nick I hate to have to tell you this... but I saw Kaiser about a month ago at Adtech, so i can only assume he's doing adware now. Although I doubt he's sharp enough to actually be running it, my guess is that he's found somebody new to rob.

bet he dont call himself Kaiser anymore lol [/b][/quote]
Bruce Bordel

Me neither LOL

I'd call him "cunt" ahahahahaha :)

Hey Ant -

Would love the opportunity to chat with you @ the show. Unfortunately I think you're right - if there was one thing he was good at, it was manipulating people. He knew what things pissed me off - and what things I would think qualified to "fight" as a cause... that's how he got me to leave Netpond. I think back on it now and want to slap myself and say "stoopid! stoopid! stoopid!" but at the time you're right, I really thought I was doing the right thing. Just ask good ole Dravyk who was shocked at all the stuff that I *didn't* know from those days when we caught up following my leave from ANS a couple years ago.

*sigh*

Live and learn. Let's definitely talk in Vegas. We were newbies together many moons ago - it would be nice to have a chance to compare notes with an old "classmate" from the 'Pond.

:okthumb:

bet he dont call himself Kaiser anymore lol

I forgot Kaiser ever existed...

Never did anything bad to me, but the screwjob he did on Meat was enough to turn me the other way...apparently he screwed others as well..

Meat would be a leading candidate for most "ethical" webmaster...if there is such a thing...

I did my best to corrupt him too :(


;-)))

Bruce Bordel [/b][/quote]
Bordello would be more accurate - lol But it's actually Bortle (if anyone cares or is tracking him down to shake hands & say hello).

Last I'd heard he was a speed bump in Jersey - apparently that isn't so. :huh:

You can add one more to Kaiser's, ahem, fan club.
That would be me.
Feh.

find me a 100% honest webmaster, and ill show you a broke webmaster.

I always tried to be above the boards, but in a world of cheaters, fuckers, and non payers. You have to fight fire with fire.

Any application of a moral obligation to the surfer is hippocracy to the nth degree. at every turn the surfer is trying to fuck you. so you fuck back, or you walk.

nope....none of them are longer around
;-))) [/b][/quote]
what happened to those two?


I remember hanging out with them and mike and sig and billy in NJ on the worlds longest limo ride. that was a fun night.

Shall I even begin my rant on this one? Hmmm well imagine the mop up after he left NetSurprise....

Yes Bruce I will have fries with that! Fucking moron, if it wasn't for Kath working there I wouldn't be here now. Thanks for being there hon :inlove:

Ok lets all have a nice venting session in Vegas I know many of us could use one and look at all the laughs that will be had. :yowsa:

No shit!!!

Nice to see you here , hooper :)

Who owns adtech? [/b][/quote]
He's apparently playing in mainstream now.

Ad-Tech: http://www.mainstreamwebmasters.com/gate.h...&op=view&eid=93

Shall I even begin my rant on this one? Hmmm well imagine the mop up after he left NetSurprise....

Yes Bruce I will have fries with that! Fucking moron, if it wasn't for Kath working there I wouldn't be here now. Thanks for being there hon :inlove:

Ok lets all have a nice venting session in Vegas I know many of us could use one and look at all the laughs that will be had. :yowsa: [/b][/quote]
No problem... unfortunately I didn't see the light until WAY too late. But hey - it's not the destination, it's the journey.... and I sure learned a hell of a lot on the trip to where I am now.

B)

Grimm is 100% right - you have to fight fire with fire. My problem was - and always used to be - that I always wanted to be the nice guy... take the high road... look at things with rose-colored glasses... Fortunately I run with a new crowd now that has opened my eyes and I've become a better person for it - and my business has flourished because of it.

Time to crack some skulls! lol :awinky:

Ummmm... should we warn them? :agrin:

same could be said for any business you're in
We can start with Microsoft

monopoly is baad, mmmkay

This is one of the best threads I have EVER read, anywhere.

I know I have come in late, and no-one probably gives a shit, but I look at it this way....

Honesty should NOT be confused with morals, ethics or principles. EVER

Some of the most crooked SOB's I have ever had the pleasure to be associated with have also been as honest as the day is long.

In many cases I would prefer to deal with someone who is honest about their dishonesty than someone who is dishonestly honest.

I have to say though, that I find Meat and Aga to be amazing guys (and it rubs off on their entire team I might add - EVEN Fred !!), I think what I like most is they are both stand-up gentleman who wouldn't fuck you over purposely UNLESS they did it to your face first. I like that. A lot. And I am constantly grateful I get to do business and spend time with men such as that. It makes life a pleasure.

I admire Scotty and other similar old school operatives immensely - they NEVER bullshitted, and they would take it to your face as well. I respect that.

What I fucking hate (apart from shaving !!) is little spineless pricks who try and fuck you over and run and hide. And we have LOADS of them in this biz - old school and not-so old school.

I probably would be lot richer now had I not taken the attitude in this biz to be "true to myself", but I don't regret it for a second, I am hardly poor, I don't have a ego to feed and I don't look over my shoulder, and I don't take shit from anyone.

Bad karma cost me the first millions I made and very nearly my existence several years ago.

Someone said it above, Karma IS a bitch.

I am by no means an angel, but I pride myself in my integrity, and that is probably a better word in the context of this thread than honesty.

Thankyou Nick and others for an excellent thread.

:ph34r:

New School , they'll fuck ya , take yr money and dissappear , then come back as a new name.

Old School , they'll fuck ya,Take your money , and hang around for a gloat and a taunt ;-)))))

We classy ;-)))

Seriously , CTB , I hope I have the pleasure of meeting you one day.

We have mutual friends and share some , though few, priniles ;-)))

Well that must make me middle school Nick :awinky:

Mate, I'll be in Vegas and then in Prague, hit me up, and let's just not make idle threats .....

I think you will find we share more than just a few principles.... it's just I haven't applied some of mine for some time.

:ph34r:

hey toyboy we love u also:)

you seriously coming to Prague?
thats great we can chill out there, fucking beautiful country one of my favorite destinations.

im assuming your gonna be there for the AOE show right?

hope your planning a little detour to UK before u fuck off back to OZ?