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Nickatilynx 11-21-2004 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by cj+Nov 21 2004, 07:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (cj @ Nov 21 2004, 07:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Nov 21 2004, 10:05 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-cj
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@Nov 21 2004, 07:00 PM
a question for straight guys ...

when you are around a gay man, how many times do you think/act a certain way because you think that guy is going to hit on you because he likes men?


OMFG CJ!!!!

OMFG!!!!


You really do underestimate us all.

Holy fuck...


Who wants to kick her ass off her high horse...

Just so I get this clear Nick, before I point out the bullshit that's sliding off your chin ...

You have NEVER done this? [/b][/quote]
No cj , I have never thought..

"Oh no , this guy is gay , betcha he fancies me""

Unless he told me!! LOL

Do you think all hetero men/lesbians fancy you?

Lee 11-21-2004 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by Technick@Nov 21 2004, 07:17 PM
He's my big brother CJ :)
How big? To the closest full inch will do ;)

Nickatilynx 11-21-2004 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by Lee+Nov 21 2004, 07:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lee @ Nov 21 2004, 07:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-cj@Nov 21 2004, 07:16 PM
There should be no gay schools because you tolerate your brother?
HAHAHA now i gotta go wipe my monitor after spitting coffee over it lol [/b][/quote]
Yeah cj...

thats it...

I tolerate my brother.

jeeeeezzzzz.........

LOL

cj 11-21-2004 10:22 PM

Nick, straight men are a bit different - they'd fuck anything :rolleyes:

But no, I don't think that ...

But the only time I separate human beings into groups of their sexuality is for marketing purposes ...

sarettah 11-21-2004 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by Lee+Nov 21 2004, 10:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lee @ Nov 21 2004, 10:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Technick@Nov 21 2004, 07:17 PM
He's my big brother CJ :)
How big? To the closest full inch will do ;) [/b][/quote]
-3 inches (thats what I've heard at least)

:yowsa:

Nickatilynx 11-21-2004 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by Lee+Nov 21 2004, 07:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lee @ Nov 21 2004, 07:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Technick@Nov 21 2004, 07:17 PM
He's my big brother CJ :)
How big? To the closest full inch will do ;) [/b][/quote]
very soon , I will be infinitely larger than "her" ;-)))

LOL


cj,

You are really fucking up this pc shit! ;-))

sarettah 11-21-2004 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by cj@Nov 21 2004, 10:23 PM
Nick, straight men are a bit different - they'd fuck anything :rolleyes:

But no, I don't think that ...

But the only time I separate human beings into groups of their sexuality is for marketing purposes ...

You might be surprised that most guys are like that too....

imported_Technick 11-21-2004 10:25 PM

CJ...you go to school to learn a lot of things...one of the most important is a set of social skills. Diversity is vital in an educational environment. I thought the United States did away with segregation in the 60's.

cj 11-21-2004 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx+Nov 21 2004, 10:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ Nov 21 2004, 10:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by Lee@Nov 21 2004, 07:17 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-cj
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@Nov 21 2004, 07:16 PM
There should be no gay schools because you tolerate your brother?


HAHAHA now i gotta go wipe my monitor after spitting coffee over it lol

Yeah cj...

thats it...

I tolerate my brother.

jeeeeezzzzz.........

LOL [/b][/quote]
that's what you are saying Nick ...

You want to be pat on the head and told you did good because you tolerate your brother for who he is ...

you used him as the example of how tolerate you and your office is ... not me!

Lee 11-21-2004 10:25 PM

Okay my movies about to start (Master + COmmander) but before i go i would just like to say..

Cant we all just get along ;)

Lee 11-21-2004 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by Technick@Nov 21 2004, 07:26 PM
I thought the United States did away with segregation in the 60's.
They did unless you happen to be..

Black, Jewish, Gay, Non-Religious [insert any other non-straight-white-US-male stereotype here]

cj 11-21-2004 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by sarettah+Nov 21 2004, 10:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sarettah @ Nov 21 2004, 10:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-cj@Nov 21 2004, 10:23 PM
Nick, straight men are a bit different - they'd fuck anything :rolleyes:

But no, I don't think that ...

But the only time I separate human beings into groups of their sexuality is for marketing purposes ...

You might be surprised that most guys are like that too.... [/b][/quote]
Sarettah, you might be surprised to find out that most guys aren't ...

Nickatilynx 11-21-2004 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by Lee@Nov 21 2004, 07:26 PM
Okay my movies about to start (Master + COmmander) but before i go i would just like to say..

Cant we all just get along ;)

Thats a fucking gay movie dude!!!


;-)))

Lee 11-21-2004 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx+Nov 21 2004, 07:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ Nov 21 2004, 07:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Lee@Nov 21 2004, 07:26 PM
Okay my movies about to start (Master + COmmander) but before i go i would just like to say..

Cant we all just get along ;)

Thats a fucking gay movie dude!!!


;-))) [/b][/quote]
Thats why im watching it that Aussie guy is hot ;)

Nickatilynx 11-21-2004 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by cj+Nov 21 2004, 07:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (cj @ Nov 21 2004, 07:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by sarettah@Nov 21 2004, 10:25 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-cj
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@Nov 21 2004, 10:23 PM
Nick, straight men are a bit different - they'd fuck anything :rolleyes:

But no, I don't think that ...

But the only time I separate human beings into groups of their sexuality is for marketing purposes ...


You might be surprised that most guys are like that too....

Sarettah, you might be surprised to find out that most guys aren't ... [/b][/quote]
you are judging us all by the standard of Steve Sweet!!!!



;-)))

lee,
We all do get along. ;-)))

Oprano is like a family.

And cj is the cute neice.

(Must remember to keep an eye on Uncle TE and Uncle Gonzo) ;l-)))

cj 11-21-2004 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by Technick@Nov 21 2004, 10:26 PM
CJ...you go to school to learn a lot of things...one of the most important is a set of social skills. Diversity is vital in an educational environment. I thought the United States did away with segregation in the 60's.
Technick, we aren't discussing how things *should* be, we are discussing how they are ...

We are talking about a school for people who have so much trouble fitting in, who are picked on and violently abused so much that they can't focus on their education as they are too busy trying to survive.

Maybe you didn't see any of this at your school ... most of us didn't ... but for there to be only 1 school in the entire of new york for a few hundred cases that just couldn't make it work is a pretty small number ... and we are saying they don't have a right to have that school? ...

that's fucked up.

sarettah 11-21-2004 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by Technick@Nov 21 2004, 10:26 PM
CJ...you go to school to learn a lot of things...one of the most important is a set of social skills. Diversity is vital in an educational environment. I thought the United States did away with segregation in the 60's.
Yeah, but the problem, at least in U.S. public schools is that a whole group of folks (not necessarilly gay) get their ass kicked every single day just because they don't happen to fit in. Some of them, like me, finally (around 10th grade or so) realize that they are bigger then most of the assholes and learn to stand up for themselves and kick some ass... Many though end up suicidal or living many many years under the shadow of an inferiority complex.

If the schools showed a basic understanding of what it was like for many students and dealt with it then I would be all for the "ideal" of learning the social skills etc in the school... But the schools turn a blind eye to it and basically tell the kids (and parents) to "deal with it". Many students end up missing out on all the fun that education and school should be and instead learn to dread their lives.

I am usually against segregation of any kind but in these kind of cases I am all for students finding a "safe" place to get an education.

gonzo 11-21-2004 10:40 PM

Damn I go to dinner and the whole place goes to hell!

imported_Technick 11-21-2004 10:40 PM

I don't think it's fucked up at all. Everyone gets picked on for something at school. A sure way to make kids feel gay people are weird and different is to drag them out of regular school and put them somewhere on their own. I mean they don't have special schools for fat kids or kids with big noses do they? And they are abused just as much.

Nickatilynx 11-21-2004 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by sarettah+Nov 21 2004, 07:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sarettah @ Nov 21 2004, 07:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Technick@Nov 21 2004, 10:26 PM
CJ...you go to school to learn a lot of things...one of the most important is a set of social skills. Diversity is vital in an educational environment. I thought the United States did away with segregation in the 60's.
Yeah, but the problem, at least in U.S. public schools is that a whole group of folks (not necessarilly gay) get their ass kicked every single day just because they don't happen to fit in. Some of them, like me, finally (around 10th grade or so) realize that they are bigger then most of the assholes and learn to stand up for themselves and kick some ass... Many though end up suicidal or living many many years under the shadow of an inferiority complex.

If the schools showed a basic understanding of what it was like for many students and dealt with it then I would be all for the "ideal" of learning the social skills etc in the school... But the schools turn a blind eye to it and basically tell the kids (and parents) to "deal with it". Many students end up missing out on all the fun that education and school should be and instead learn to dread their lives.

I am usually against segregation of any kind but in these kind of cases I am all for students finding a "safe" place to get an education. [/b][/quote]
ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

sorry I'm laughing...


Do you know what its like at a British Boarding School?

At least in the US they get to go home.The other students can't legally under the school rules deal out corporal punishment , and they are not forced into surfdom by the older boys as a result of hundreds of years of tradition. ;-))

Ah yes...the empire was built on the playing fields of Eton ,Charterhouse ,Harrow etc.

And so were some very successful Shrinks practices ;-)))



Actually I loved school LOL

gonzo 11-21-2004 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by Technick@Nov 21 2004, 10:41 PM
I mean they don't have special schools for fat kids... And they are abused just as much.
Where me and Hellpuppy went to high school it was the fat rednecks kicking skinny jock ass.

Vick 11-21-2004 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by cj@Nov 21 2004, 10:00 PM
a question for straight guys ...

when you are around a gay man, how many times do you think/act a certain way because you think that guy is going to hit on you because he likes men?

From what I've seen (and I was the fag hag for a bunch of Lesbians a few years back)
Usually gay men don't hit on straight guys

Vick 11-21-2004 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by cj@Nov 21 2004, 10:23 PM
Nick, straight men are a bit different - they'd fuck anything :rolleyes:

Wrong :P

sarettah 11-21-2004 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by Technick@Nov 21 2004, 10:41 PM
I don't think it's fucked up at all. Everyone gets picked on for something at school. A sure way to make kids feel gay people are weird and different is to drag them out of regular school and put them somewhere on their own. I mean they don't have special schools for fat kids or kids with big noses do they? And they are abused just as much.
No, not everyone gets picked on.. There are all sorts of groups of kids and some end up down at the bottom of the pecking order through no fault of their own, or their parents for that matter.

If the schools are not going to deal with the issues then there is no way to guarantee that all kids get an equal opportunity of an education.

I went through it... I watched helplessly as my son went through it until I finally pulled him out of the school he was in and put him into a private school for as long as I could afford it.

I watched him (who tests in the 99th percentile across the board) fail at basically everything because he was scared shitless of the other students. If he stood up for himself he got in trouble everytime because undoubtedly he was bigger than the kid(s) picking on him. If he didn't stand up for himself, he got spit on, harassed and beat up. He was in a lose-lose situation no matter what and no matter what I did with teachers, principals or school boards didn't help one bit. They were not going to do a fucking thing about it. He went through school as a loner and still has trouble with people because the only thing school taught him was to be afraid.

cj 11-21-2004 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by Technick@Nov 21 2004, 10:41 PM
I don't think it's fucked up at all. Everyone gets picked on for something at school. A sure way to make kids feel gay people are weird and different is to drag them out of regular school and put them somewhere on their own. I mean they don't have special schools for fat kids or kids with big noses do they? And they are abused just as much.
>>Everyone gets picked on for something at school.

This is bullshit ... *everyone* does not get beaten up, have their heads flushed, etc. There's 'picked on' and then there's abuse.

>drag them out of regular school

Um ... technick ...

who dragged anyone out of school?!

We are talking about a few hundred students in the whole of new york ... who HAVE CHOSEN TO GO TO THIS SCHOOL because they feel their safety is threatened in a regular school.

Are you saying they should be forced to go to a regular school or miss out on an education?

sarettah 11-21-2004 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Nov 21 2004, 10:42 PM
Do you know what its like at a British Boarding School?

Oh, I imagine for many students it is hell as hell can be....

But I would bet that there is a more strict pecking order.. Upper classman can peck downward but lower classman can not peck upwards, that sort of thing, but I could be wrong...

Yeppirs on the psychiatrist bills I would imagine....

I loved college, but that was after a 9 year break between High School and College during which I was in the military. After the Navy, college was a breeze.

Nickatilynx 11-21-2004 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by sarettah+Nov 21 2004, 07:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sarettah @ Nov 21 2004, 07:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@Nov 21 2004, 10:42 PM
Do you know what its like at a British Boarding School?

Oh, I imagine for many students it is hell as hell can be....

But I would bet that there is a more strict pecking order.. Upper classman can peck downward but lower classman can not peck upwards, that sort of thing, but I could be wrong...

Yeppirs on the psychiatrist bills I would imagine....

I loved college, but that was after a 9 year break between High School and College during which I was in the military. After the Navy, college was a breeze. [/b][/quote]
Yeah I loved school..in the end :)

At first it was "Hey yankee.."
Canadian , American made no difference.

So my Dad taught me to box and then sent me for lessons.
After a year he said "The next bully that picks on you , take him apart, you fight like hell , and win or lose, no one will bother you again"

He was right. :)


But I do now have a funny accent. ;-))

imported_Technick 11-21-2004 11:05 PM

That's not the point CJ. if a person's safety is at risk the schools should do their job and protect their students. What about students who aren't gay whose safety is at risk? Where do they go? Don't go separating the victims.....why not pull the bullies out and put them in a special school?

sarettah 11-21-2004 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by Technick@Nov 21 2004, 11:06 PM
That's not the point CJ. if a person's safety is at risk the schools should do their job and protect their students. What about students who aren't gay whose safety is at risk? Where do they go? Don't go separating the victims.....why not pull the bullies out and put them in a special school?
I'd go for that !!!!

imported_Technick 11-21-2004 11:17 PM

CJ..straight people and gay people need to learn about each other from an early age. People fear what they don't understand. Do you think VP Cheney would be against the Federal Marriage Amendment if his daughter wasn't gay? Gay people will never win equal rights in the US if straight people never get to know us. Growing up with gay friends is one of the best ways to do that.

I'm on a rant now :)

Lisa 11-21-2004 11:47 PM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Nov 22 2004, 01:42 PM
Actually I loved school LOL
Yeh but that's just cos of the extraordinary high incidence of buggery in English public schools...

:nyanya:

Opti 11-21-2004 11:56 PM

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Originally posted by Technick@Nov 22 2004, 01:09 PM
Interesting post CJ. I have worked for Whitcon for seven years or so...a couple of years before I met my boyfriend. P8 and some of the other guys have visited me in San Francisco and they didn't seem at all concerned. I've also never had the slightest problem in the Vancouver office, although if my shoes and dress clashed, I am sure I would get a reaction :)
hehehe Timing Technick! Take that Cj!! :D

;- )))

Opti 11-22-2004 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx+Nov 22 2004, 01:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ Nov 22 2004, 01:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by cj@Nov 21 2004, 07:14 PM
Quote:

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Nov 21 2004, 10:05 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-cj

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Quote:

@Nov 21 2004, 07:00 PM
a question for straight guys ...

when you are around a gay man, how many times do you think/act a certain way because you think that guy is going to hit on you because he likes men?


OMFG CJ!!!!

OMFG!!!!


You really do underestimate us all.

Holy fuck...


Who wants to kick her ass off her high horse...


Just so I get this clear Nick, before I point out the bullshit that's sliding off your chin ...

You have NEVER done this?

No cj , I have never thought..

"Oh no , this guy is gay , betcha he fancies me""

Unless he told me!! LOL

Do you think all hetero men/lesbians fancy you? [/b][/quote]
You must be just fat n ugly nick!... every gay guy I meet wants me... I think? Dont they?? ;- )


*edit: I had a straight acting gay friend once who told me he was gay a month or so after we had become pretty good friends... I know I am accepting.. but even I couldn't help running back through my head to work out if i had missed anything and he was coming on and I didnt realise... I wasn't sure.. so I asked him... he fell over laughing at me, the prick!!!!!

I used to go to this gay club with him sometimes as he wanted to go but didnt want to go alone... and honestly... It used to piss me off how little attention all the gay guys paid to me most times!!

Nickatilynx 11-22-2004 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by Lisa+Nov 21 2004, 08:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lisa @ Nov 21 2004, 08:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@Nov 22 2004, 01:42 PM
Actually I loved school LOL
Yeh but that's just cos of the extraordinary high incidence of buggery in English public schools...

:nyanya: [/b][/quote]
yeah...but it isn't compulsory though.
;-)))

Opti,

Talking to a friend , years ago in Britain the convo went like this..

"So how's your brother Nick?"

"Oh he is doing great ,mate.He's become a total whoopsie and is living in San Fran"

" No way!!"

"Way!!!Bent as a three bob note"

"Oh shit , we used to room in together"

"Yeah"

"Oh he prolly fancied me"

"Naw ,he says he didn't"

"Oh cool thats great , say ""Hi" to him from me will ya"

"sure"


(pause)

"Whats wrong with me then that he wouldn't fancy me?"


Note : Gypsys are not noted for there political correctness. :)


;-))))

StreetRacer 11-22-2004 01:06 AM

cj is a ditz

is she still sucking australian cock for jobs?

PornoDoggy 11-22-2004 01:19 AM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Nov 21 2004, 10:31 PM
you are judging us all by the standard of Steve Sweet!!!!



;-)))

lee,
We all do get along. ;-)))

Oprano is like a family.

And cj is the cute neice.

(Must remember to keep an eye on Uncle TE and Uncle Gonzo) ;l-)))

I think you should keep a close eye on them.




Seriously.






No need to keep an eye on me ... no sir .... not at all.







Come here, little girl .... want some candy? :matey:

Opti 11-22-2004 02:45 AM

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Originally posted by StreetRacer@Nov 22 2004, 04:07 PM
cj is a ditz

is she still sucking australian cock for jobs?

God Damn I hope so!!!!!!!! I have one of those!!

Why didnt anyone tell me earlier???.

cj 11-22-2004 02:50 AM

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Originally posted by StreetRacer@Nov 22 2004, 01:07 AM
cj is a ditz

is she still sucking australian cock for jobs?

oh puhlease, I don't discriminate by country :rolleyes:


what's wrong, did I refuse to suck yours at some point?!


:yowsa:

cj 11-22-2004 03:09 AM

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Originally posted by Technick@Nov 21 2004, 11:06 PM
That's not the point CJ. if a person's safety is at risk the schools should do their job and protect their students. What about students who aren't gay whose safety is at risk? Where do they go? Don't go separating the victims.....why not pull the bullies out and put them in a special school?
good idea technick, why don't they do that?

have a think about who the bullies are ... usually football team, usually the biggest revenue generator for the school. popular kids, attractive kids, rich kids etc ... all 'valuable' to a school community.

I can't believe, as a human being - nothing to do with your sexuality - that you think its better for kids to drop out of school or be beaten up than it is to give them an opportunity to learn somewhere they would be nurtured ...

If there was a school for fat kids - what would be the weight cut off? 10 pounds overweight? 20 pounds overweight? There are already schools for black kids, even if they aren't officially labelled as so ... There are schools for kids who are good at music, computers, chess etc ... there are schools for kids with learning disabilities ... there are schools for kids with down syndrome and schools for kids who are deaf.

How is a gay school different from a chess club or a sporting team where people with similar interests get together to learn about and live life?

People group together based on their interests in life - it happens as adults so what's wrong with it happening as a teenager?

What about san francisco or oxford st sydney? Gay people live, work and play in segretated communities all the time ...

THAT'S LIFE! Not being forced to do something that is harmful to your life or counter productive to your happiness.

You seem to WANT people to be put through hell just to prove some stupid point about everyone being the same ....

newsflash - we aren't all the same ...

Opti 11-22-2004 03:14 AM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Nov 22 2004, 03:55 PM
(pause)

"Whats wrong with me then that he wouldn't fancy me?"

I defy anyone with a male ego... gay or straight, not to have that thought cross their minds in a situation like that!! :D


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