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Vick 06-29-2004 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by TheEnforcer+Jun 27 2004, 09:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TheEnforcer @ Jun 27 2004, 09:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Vick@Jun 26 2004, 11:02 PM
I can't get the weekend numbers yet but I expect the move not to even be in the top 5 grossing (money wise) - when your film gets it's butt kicked by dodge ball what does that say?
Whoops!!

Looks like it will likely be the #1 movie over the weekend and the per screen average is quite amazing.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?...04-06-26&p=.htm



I don't plan on going to see the film but it certainly has had a quite successful opening weekend. [/b][/quote]
I WAS WRONG

Almighty Colin 06-29-2004 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by RawAlex@Jun 27 2004, 09:08 PM
I would like to point out that months and months of negative campaigning from the Bush side has done little to change the polls, only the death of the beloved Ronald Reagan was able to boost him temporarily.
Hmmm, well Bush has lead all the way until just a few months ago and that change has come mostly from people's perception of the war in Iraq not going well. Bush lead all the way until mid Feb. Kerry lead from about mid February until a few weeks ago. Now it is tied. There was a fair rise in the past month of people's perception of the economy so that is probably the cause of Bush's rise. Perception always lags on the economy.

I believe you said once that the election is Kerry's to win or lose but I think it is more in Bush's hands, as the incumbent, than Kerrys. As Iraq and the economy go, if you consider those "in Bush's hands", will go the Bush campaign. Kerry's greatest influence on the election will come from his performance at the Democratic National Convention and his choice of running mate. It's possible Kerry could jump ahead a good amount at the convention but difficult to guess because of the extremely polarized electorate.

I think most people are either voting "For Bush" or "Against Bush".

RawAlex 06-29-2004 11:22 AM

Colin, in the last few weeks there has been that halo effect from the whole Reagan thing. Beloved republican, blah blah blah... Pretty much all the pundits have said there would be a boost, at least short term.

The return of Iraq as a sovereign nation will certainly help as well, as it gives the impression that "the war is over". That will last until more US troops die. Having that hostage killed on the same day certainly took away from the strength of the move. Overall, there will still be a short term boost.

However, unless there is a major reduction in the number of troops in Iraq before the election, I suspect you will see Kerry hitting on the fact that "the war isn't over, our soldiers are still at risk and still dying in Iraq"

The MM effect will be harder to guage... and he gets two bites at the apple, as the DVD will be release before the election...

Alex

grimm 06-30-2004 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by Meni+Jun 26 2004, 01:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Meni @ Jun 26 2004, 01:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-grimm@Jun 26 2004, 03:16 PM
all shows sold out here too in new orleans, standing ovations

http://www.christianitytoday.com/movies/re...renheit911.html

this nails it on the head though, the irst hour-hour and a half were excellent, but then subjectivity replaced objectivity and it went downhill from there


one thin i can say tho, is that a LOT of people hate bush, and this movie is going to swing a lot of votes.


FWIW, i left early, it got too inaccurate, became too ad hominem for my tastes.



Matt

christianitytoday? [/b][/quote]
yeah, go figure and it is a moderate review.

grimm 06-30-2004 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by Vick@Jun 26 2004, 08:02 PM
Please allow me to try to explain this again

Fahrenheit 911 is in a LIMITED RELEASE

It's is only playing in AMC theaters (released by Lion's Gate)- currently you can't see it anywhere else

That ensures a crowd that is going out of their way to be able to see the film

Also it creates more hype for the film due the audiences that aren't able to see the film at this time

Try to see it in a Lowe's, Muvico or other theater - YOU CAN'T

I can't get the weekend numbers yet but I expect the move not to even be in the top 5 grossing (money wise) - when your film gets it's butt kicked by dodge ball what does that say?

AMC is currently the largest movie theater chain in the nation, perched on buying out Loews.

Lionsgate is on of the largest independent film producers.


F9/11 grossed 22 mil in 3 days, audience of 3-4 million.


I dont see where the argument is, people went to see it, it made money at teh largest single set of theaters in the country. If this was shrek 2, would you argue the same argument?

grimm 06-30-2004 12:16 AM

and as to why only AMC. it is one of the only chain of theaters not owned by Disney. go figure

grimm 06-30-2004 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by grimm@Jun 29 2004, 08:17 PM
and as to why only AMC. it is one of the only chain of theaters not owned by Disney. go figure
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?...04-06-28&p=.htm

nice, 4.5 million on a Monday? doubled dodgeball, which i saw last night and thought was pretty damn funny.

-Matt

BradShaw 06-30-2004 12:28 AM

I went tonight, left after an hour. I am too smart to get fed that bullshit.

I did notice several webmasters on the back row eating it up, believing all the BS.

grimm 06-30-2004 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by BradShaw@Jun 29 2004, 08:29 PM
I went tonight, left after an hour. I am too smart to get fed that bullshit.

I did notice several webmasters on the back row eating it up, believing all the BS.

dodgeball was some bullshit. i would have left too:)

Vick 06-30-2004 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by grimm+Jun 29 2004, 11:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (grimm @ Jun 29 2004, 11:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Vick@Jun 26 2004, 08:02 PM
Please allow me to try to explain this again

Fahrenheit 911 is in a LIMITED RELEASE

It's is only playing in AMC theaters (released by Lion's Gate)- currently you can't see it anywhere else

That ensures a crowd that is going out of their way to be able to see the film

Also it creates more hype for the film due the audiences that aren't able to see the film at this time

Try to see it in a Lowe's, Muvico or other theater - YOU CAN'T

I can't get the weekend numbers yet but I expect the move not to even be in the top 5 grossing (money wise) - when your film gets it's butt kicked by dodge ball what does that say?

AMC is currently the largest movie theater chain in the nation, perched on buying out Loews.

Lionsgate is on of the largest independent film producers.


F9/11 grossed 22 mil in 3 days, audience of 3-4 million.


I dont see where the argument is, people went to see it, it made money at teh largest single set of theaters in the country. If this was shrek 2, would you argue the same argument? [/b][/quote]
Grimm - I already said I was wrong about F911 making it into the top 5 for the weekend

Are you sure about other theater chains being owned by Disney?
I don't think Muvico is

and I still say Shrek2 is a more important film :D


Totally unrelated but interesting - I believe Muvico owns the most attended theater in the USA, it's about 5 minutes from my house. 24 screen complex

and it's a very good possibility that Muvico will draw more people through the doors this entire year than ....

... the Baltimore Orioles

but then who wants to see the Orioles ah ha ha ha



Edit - and as muc as I don;t like to admit it F911 is doing huge per screen/showing numbers
It may fall off a little as what is expected to be the summer's biggest movie opens today Spiderman 2

BradShaw 06-30-2004 01:26 AM

Grimm, Snuggles miss you.

slavdogg 06-30-2004 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by grimm@Jun 29 2004, 11:17 PM
and as to why only AMC. it is one of the only chain of theaters not owned by Disney. go figure
from where i'm sitting its still playing at Lowes
and Century Theaters, who owns Century ?
and obviously AMC

so all that bullshit about limited release and white man keeping Moore down goes out the window for me, cuz only Meni can understand it

800 screens for the opening day is probably a near record or a record for a documentary anyway

Winetalk.com 06-30-2004 03:31 AM

The ONLY movie which matters to me is...
Spiderman II,
as I wrote 20th puts on MVL,
everything else is yadda-yadda-yadda
;-)))

grimm 06-30-2004 08:29 AM

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Originally posted by Vick+Jun 29 2004, 09:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Vick @ Jun 29 2004, 09:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by grimm@Jun 29 2004, 11:13 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Vick
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@Jun 26 2004, 08:02 PM
Please allow me to try to explain this again

Fahrenheit 911 is in a LIMITED RELEASE

It's is only playing in AMC theaters (released by Lion's Gate)- currently you can't see it anywhere else

That ensures a crowd that is going out of their way to be able to see the film

Also it creates more hype for the film due the audiences that aren't able to see the film at this time

Try to see it in a Lowe's, Muvico or other theater - YOU CAN'T

I can't get the weekend numbers yet but I expect the move not to even be in the top 5 grossing (money wise) - when your film gets it's butt kicked by dodge ball what does that say?


AMC is currently the largest movie theater chain in the nation, perched on buying out Loews.

Lionsgate is on of the largest independent film producers.


F9/11 grossed 22 mil in 3 days, audience of 3-4 million.


I dont see where the argument is, people went to see it, it made money at teh largest single set of theaters in the country. If this was shrek 2, would you argue the same argument?

Grimm - I already said I was wrong about F911 making it into the top 5 for the weekend

Are you sure about other theater chains being owned by Disney?
I don't think Muvico is

and I still say Shrek2 is a more important film :D


Totally unrelated but interesting - I believe Muvico owns the most attended theater in the USA, it's about 5 minutes from my house. 24 screen complex

and it's a very good possibility that Muvico will draw more people through the doors this entire year than ....

... the Baltimore Orioles

but then who wants to see the Orioles ah ha ha ha



Edit - and as muc as I don;t like to admit it F911 is doing huge per screen/showing numbers
It may fall off a little as what is expected to be the summer's biggest movie opens today Spiderman 2 [/b][/quote]
yeah i missed your retraction.


an hey, the oriols are onteh rise. made good decisions in the offseason. cant turn shit into gold overnight, and besides football season is in two months;)

the AMC here has 22 screens, not 24.10 on one side, 12 on the other.

Im sure about loews. the fact that they reside on the same square block as an ESPN zone in NYC (or across the street, seals that, everything is oned by disney there;)


and withut a doubt this weekend will be spiermans weekend. f911 saw its big opennig weekend, but it is still pulling in 4-5 mil a day. just think about it, BFC made 18 mil on DVD sales alone. this could be the first documentary to hit the 80-100 mil mark. but it did somehow cost 58 millions.


all in all the reaction is that of Americans wanting to have a voice, and ot hear other voices. This is a very confused nation. an election year, a war... any speculation on the November election this early is nothing more than mews media outlet fodder to boost ratings. These guys arent campaigning, they are smearing. using laws for purposes they were not meant to? putting out fires more than setting them?


Matt

grimm 06-30-2004 08:30 AM

tell snuggles i miss him too, squirmey little thing:)

Almighty Colin 06-30-2004 08:47 AM

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Originally posted by grimm@Jun 30 2004, 07:30 AM
this could be the first documentary to hit the 80-100 mil mark. but it did somehow cost 58 millions.
$58 mil. Isn't there a decimal missing there?

Evil Chris 06-30-2004 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by BradShaw@Jun 30 2004, 12:29 AM
I went tonight, left after an hour. I am too smart to get fed that bullshit.

I did notice several webmasters on the back row eating it up, believing all the BS.

all the BS? :lol:
Maybe you should re-watch it with the sound turned off so you don't have to subject yourself to MM's commentary.

Just out of curiousity, what station do you prefer for your news?

Almighty Colin 06-30-2004 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by Evil Chris+Jun 30 2004, 09:43 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Evil Chris @ Jun 30 2004, 09:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Brad "little weasel" Shaw@Jun 30 2004, 12:29 AM
I went tonight, left after an hour. I am too smart to get fed that bullshit.

I did notice several webmasters on the back row eating it up, believing all the BS.

all the BS? :lol:
Maybe you should re-watch it with the sound turned off so you don't have to subject yourself to MM's commentary.

Just out of curiousity, what station do you prefer for your news? [/b][/quote]
Doesn't everyone just read the news on the internet now? ;-)

RawAlex 06-30-2004 11:32 AM

Matt, the two brothers who arranged distribution bought the film from Disney for around 6 million. I think you slipped a decimal point in there!

80 million box office won't be out of range, having done already 30 million (according to boxoffice mojo). However, this might weaken DVD sales in the end, although the timing of the release of the DVD might make it spike way up, as it should be VERY near election day, and should get good press coverage.

Overall, this will give Moore more than enough working capital to produce a few more interesting movies in the future.

Alex

Vick 06-30-2004 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by grimm@Jun 30 2004, 07:30 AM
besides football season is in two months;)


After that everything pales in comparison :okthumb: :okthumb:

grimm 07-01-2004 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by Colin+Jun 30 2004, 04:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Jun 30 2004, 04:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-grimm@Jun 30 2004, 07:30 AM
this could be the first documentary to hit the 80-100 mil mark. but it did somehow cost 58 millions.
$58 mil. Isn't there a decimal missing there? [/b][/quote]
no i read who was it the weinstein brothers wplit to do this film, the bottom line was 58 million.beats me how they spent it.

grimm 07-01-2004 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by RawAlex@Jun 30 2004, 07:33 AM
Matt, the two brothers who arranged distribution bought the film from Disney for around 6 million. I think you slipped a decimal point in there!

80 million box office won't be out of range, having done already 30 million (according to boxoffice mojo). However, this might weaken DVD sales in the end, although the timing of the release of the DVD might make it spike way up, as it should be VERY near election day, and should get good press coverage.

Overall, this will give Moore more than enough working capital to produce a few more interesting movies in the future.

Alex

i stand corrected, missed a decimal point


http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/...renheit911.htm


i was wondering hw a film with the production values o a documentary could cost so much, must have been all the on set massages:)

grimm 07-01-2004 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by RawAlex@Jun 30 2004, 07:33 AM
Matt, the two brothers who arranged distribution bought the film from Disney for around 6 million. I think you slipped a decimal point in there!

80 million box office won't be out of range, having done already 30 million (according to boxoffice mojo). However, this might weaken DVD sales in the end, although the timing of the release of the DVD might make it spike way up, as it should be VERY near election day, and should get good press coverage.

Overall, this will give Moore more than enough working capital to produce a few more interesting movies in the future.

Alex

Its doing a steafy 3-4 mil a day. probably will slow to a mil a day after Spidey comes out, even lower when it goes back to limited release. But he has a way of selling DVDs. and you are right, i imagine it will come out on dvd right around the middle or beginning of october. so 80 mil is definitately attainable for this film.



which would make it the second highest grossing independant film ever. behind "clerks" which has been selling DVD's for what 10 years?:)

grimm 07-01-2004 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by Evil Chris+Jun 30 2004, 06:43 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Evil Chris @ Jun 30 2004, 06:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Brad "little weasel" Shaw@Jun 30 2004, 12:29 AM
I went tonight, left after an hour. I am too smart to get fed that bullshit.

I did notice several webmasters on the back row eating it up, believing all the BS.

all the BS? :lol:
Maybe you should re-watch it with the sound turned off so you don't have to subject yourself to MM's commentary.

Just out of curiousity, what station do you prefer for your news? [/b][/quote]
http://www.nakednews.com/


;)


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