Meni - you don't address your lack of conviction

So you going to work a soup kitchen and help the hungry?

Going to take the money you'd spend on X this weekend and instead use those funds to buy food for the poor and hungry?

Or is it ok to spout ideals as long as it's doesn't actually take any real effort?

There is no god, it's all just superstition

I say feed the homeless to the hungry, solve two problems at once. Plus I'd bet we'd have a lot less homeless and hungry very quickly

Without People
there is not need for science nor knowledge

GO[/b][/quote]
There will be plenty enough people here whether or not stem-cell research is done. Please don't try and substitute the concept of "all people" for "some people". Try again.

I think Meni has gone past the point of no return. :(

Vicky
i'm talking about how the GOV spends all of our money

and I help food drives
and you say fuck the poor

There will be plenty enough people here whether or not stem-cell research is done. Please don't try and substitute the concept of "all people" for "some people". Try again.[/b][/quote]
Stem Cells for the Future Treatment of Parkinson's Disease
Parkinson's disease (PD) is a very common neurodegenerative disorder that affects more than 2% of the population over 65 years of age. PD is caused by a progressive degeneration and loss of dopamine (DA)-producing neurons, which leads to tremor, rigidity, and hypokinesia (abnormally decreased mobility). It is thought that PD may be the first disease to be amenable to treatment using stem cell transplantation. Factors that support this notion include the knowledge of the specific cell type (DA neurons) needed to relieve the symptoms of the disease. In addition, several laboratories have been successful in developing methods to induce embryonic stem cells to differentiate into cells with many of the functions of DA neurons.

In a recent study, scientists directed mouse embryonic stem cells to differentiate into DA neurons by introducing the gene Nurr1. When transplanted into the brains of a rat model of PD, these stem cell-derived DA neurons reinnervated the brains of the rat Parkinson model, released dopamine and improved motor function.

Regarding human stem cell therapy, scientists are developing a number of strategies for producing dopamine neurons from human stem cells in the laboratory for transplantation into humans with Parkinson's disease. The successful generation of an unlimited supply of dopamine neurons could make neurotransplantation widely available for Parkinson's patients at some point in the future.

Here you go Colin
paste
http://stemcells.nih.gov/stemcell/scireport.asp

then tell me, spending money on Mars is better
do you know anyone sick?

Peaches
are you serious?
mars over stem cell research?
MARS exploration
over STEM CELL research

I'm past the point of no return
let Bush pray for the sick
instead of helping science cure them

There will be plenty enough people here whether or not stem-cell research is done. Please don't try and substitute the concept of "all people" for "some people". Try again.[/b][/quote]
colin
each person is valuable
there will be plenty people here with or without stem cell research
are you kidding
you are that cold?
poor Colin

Peaches
are you serious?
mars over stem cell research?
MARS exploration
over STEM CELL research

I'm past the point of no return
let Bush pray for the sick
instead of helping science cure them[/b][/quote]
Meni, please feel free to post us the proof where:

1) There is money being removed from stem cell research and given to the Mars space program and
2) Where Bush has moved the money from stem cell research to the Mars space program and the congress and senate didn't OK it.

Seriously, you won't look so foolish if you would just get some facts before you post. Really. :)



Last edited by Peaches at Mar 25 2004, 02:38 PM

Each, huh? :o

Bush only allows research on stem cell lines that have already been created from previously destroyed human embryos.

hands are tied
Bush brings God into the plan
The Creator blah blah



does the Creator want us on Mars?

Bush needs to go, I can't wait

Each, huh? :o[/b][/quote]
I'm confused
colin only cares that enough people will be alive with or without stem cell research
is colin in too deep about numbers?

keep holding the scientist back
lets fly to mars
then after that lets all visit Uranus

Vicky
i'm talking about how the GOV spends all of our money

and I help food drives
and you say fuck the poor[/b][/quote]
Only if they are really hot poor chicks

But yeah fuck the poor, they are not my concern. Money spent on the poor is money wasted

Who the fuck ever came up with the concept of welfare? Ok let's give tax dollars to those who fuck up and create generations of worthless being who won't work - just fucking brilliant!


and neither you nor I Meni has enough knowledge about stem cell research and the space program and the implications to determine which should be funded how much

beauty knows no boundaries

i remember the hottest dancer I booked from 1994 to 1996
she was from way up north Maine, broke
but fuckin gorgeous

It has very little to do with science and everything to do with politics. when the Soviet Union put a man in space it was a catastrophe for western powers. it increased the prestige in the world of the Soviet Union and Communism while having the opposite effect in the west and for Capitalism. countries all over the planet abandoned the west and turned to the Soviet Union and aligned themselves with them.

that is why it became so important to trump that achievement by being the first to put a man on the moon. it was not simply an issue of ego ... it was about winning the cold war, slowing the spead of communism and weakening the influence of the Soviet Union in Asia, Africa and Eastern Europe.

going to Mars is no different than putting a man in orbit or on the moon. it's about credibility as a global power.

Why do you think the EU has sent missions to Mars? Why the hurry? Why do it if someone else is doing it? Whats the point.


simple.

Credibility.



Last edited by JR at Mar 25 2004, 11:30 AM

:okthumb:

B-I-N-G-O

It has very little to do with science and everything to do with politics. when the Soviet Union put a man in space it was a catastrophe for western powers. it increased the prestige in the world of the Soviet Union and Communism while having the opposite effect in the west and for Capitalism. countries all over the planet abandoned the west and turned to the Soviet Union and aligned themselves with them.

that is why it became so important to trump that achievement by being the first to put a man on the moon. it was not simply an issue of ego ... it was about winning the cold war, slowing the spead of communism and weakening the influence of the Soviet Union in Asia, Africa and Eastern Europe.

going to Mars is no different than putting a man in orbit or on the moon. it's about credibility as a global power.

Why do you think the EU has sent missions to Mars? Why the hurry? Why do it if someone else is doing it? Whats the point.


simple.

Credibility.[/b][/quote]
oh so now EU is smart
yet when the don't like our policies you they are fagets?

:okthumb:[/b][/quote]
Colin i'm still waiting

you think enough people is fine?
do you know anyone who is sick?
that could be helped if GW had less restrictions on stem cell research
and shoved more money into it?
Mars for credibility
ok and you guys also brag we are the last superpower
oh we kicked Iraq's ass
we kick ass and take names
oh so macho
so macho, remember that song boys?
nicola baby

I don't think you're following the conversation, Meni.

I'll repeat this

I'm confused
colin only cares that enough people will be alive with or without stem cell research
is colin in too deep about numbers?

I'm confused
colin only cares that enough people will be alive with or without stem cell research
is colin in too deep about numbers?

I'm confused
colin only cares that enough people will be alive with or without stem cell research
is colin in too deep about numbers?

I'm confused
colin only cares that enough people will be alive with or without stem cell research
is colin in too deep about numbers?

I'm confused
colin only cares that enough people will be alive with or without stem cell research
is colin in too deep about numbers?

I'm confused
colin only cares that enough people will be alive with or without stem cell research
is colin in too deep about numbers?
I'm confused
colin only cares that enough people will be alive with or without stem cell research
is colin in too deep about numbers?

I don't think you're following the conversation, Meni.[/b][/quote]
dude, its all bigger cock contest
and that doesn't really make life better does it?

Boy, that sure would feed a lot of poor people. :okthumb:

Boy, that sure would feed a lot of poor people. :okthumb:[/b][/quote]
sure
whats the gov spend on piss projects
a trillion
duh

Colin i'm still waiting

you think enough people is fine?
do you know anyone who is sick?
that could be helped if GW had less restrictions on stem cell research
and shoved more money into it?
Mars for credibility
ok and you guys also brag we are the last superpower
oh we kicked Iraq's ass
we kick ass and take names
oh so macho
so macho, remember that song boys?
nicola baby[/b][/quote]
You're really not following. This is where the conversation was. You were going to prove the people were more important than science, remember? Pointing out that without ALL people science would not be important doesn't do that. So in reality, I'm still waiting.

Meni said "I'm confused" seven times in one post. There's something we can all agree on.

science is more important than people?
um
Isn't stem cell research science
helping people
and space exploration is "look at us"

and do you any of you realize
serge is paying me per post while he's gone?

science is more important than people?
um
Isn't stem cell research science
helping people
and space exploration is "look at us"[/b][/quote]
Would someone please explain to Meni the difference between "all of science" and "some science" and "all of the people" and "some people".

Didn't you read Peaches post about space exploration?

Are you trying to explain your insane posts away with "I did it all for the money"?

no
lets just get to the basics
I'd like to see Bush out
Bush panders to much to the religious right
ok?
simple

he's limiting stem cell research
I don't like that
he wants to fly to Mars
I don't agree
we are looking at the biggest deficit in history
not fun
he's going to sign the new bill making fines $275K per instance
ok you don't think thats a blow to free speech
What will our broadcasters talk about?
1 wrong word, and its judged by the FCC, not a court.
and you owe $275,000
This bothers no one on oprano?
So our radio will be Ryan Secherest and John Tesh?
TV? nothing cutting edge?
everything SAFE for middle america?
no one sees this are BAD on this board?
there are what? 50 people who read this board
you wanna dismiss the thousands writing their Senators?
the million who email Clear Channel?
oh bush clear channel connection?
cheney duck hunting with scalia
thats enough for me
time for a change
ok mention Stern please, I'd love for you to debate the man in person

are you struggling with an addiction to meth-amphetimines?

that would explain a lot or your incoherent rambling, incomplete sentences, incomplete thoughts, incomplete ideas, incomplete arguements, irrational remarks and the generally fucked up person that is YOU.

are you struggling with an addiction to meth-amphetimines?

that would explain a lot or your incoherent rambling, incomplete sentences, incomplete thoughts, incomplete ideas, incomplete arguements, irrational remarks and the generally fucked up person that is YOU.[/b][/quote]
i didn't edit that post
sorry, and I took a TIGHT so I'm a bit wound up
and sure my buddy is flying into town
and hell we'll roll friday and saturday
cool?

so europeans are ok cuz they wanna go to Mars
but they are pussies cuz they hate Bush and don't agree with invading Iraq
hmmmmm

i didn't edit that post
sorry, and I took a TIGHT so I'm a bit wound up
and sure my buddy is flying into town
and hell we'll roll friday and saturday
cool?

so europeans are ok cuz they wanna go to Mars
but they are pussies cuz they hate Bush and don't agree with invading Iraq
hmmmmm[/b][/quote]
huh?

The who? buddy? what? where? roll? pussies? Iraq?

Mars.

remember the conversation you started?

Mars?

Put the crack pipe down already.

oh ok
Mars?
I don't agree spending $$$$$$$$$$ on Mars
ok?
You do?

oh Vick I didn't see this till I replied to Peaches
how she points out how space exploration helps everyone
and i should learn to use google
ok
i know google a bit
to the worth of $150K in 2 months for PARIS HILTON
lick me thank you[/b][/quote]
And being the sudden knee-jerk political junkie that you've become since Stern decided to become one, I am sure that you took that entire $150k and handed it over to a food bank, yes?
Or a stem-cell research facility?

(I knew better than to click on this thread. Really I did. I ignored it for as long as I could and finally had nothing else to read. I should listen to myself more often. :headwall: )

I've been wondering :awinky:

Spot on there Colin!! :okthumb:

i dont care one way or the other. i don't share your belief that the world would be a better place and real social problems would be solved if that money was donated to soup kitchens and homeless shelters.

Communism failed Meni. Welcome to 2004.

Meni, I have no problem helping people who NEED help and want to help themselves. But our society, we have too many that want handouts and don't care a rats ass about doing anything for themselves.

But, at the same time. You have to spread the money ALL around.

Hey now..Bush isn't the ONLY president that has spent money on all other programs, not only the space program. ALL of them have for the last 60 years. ALL of them.

Even if your chosen president that you want elected, would also choose to spend money on the space program.

Besides, you never know what space exploration may bring. Someday the cure for some of the worst desieses known to man.