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wig 03-15-2004 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by Vick+Mar 15 2004, 05:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Vick @ Mar 15 2004, 05:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--wig@Mar 15 2004, 04:57 PM
To wish a dirty nuke on an innocent population and to relish and cheer for it is not only asinine, it is childish and contrary to your supposed core foundation of anti-murderous, anti-war mongering, blah, blah, blah.

Or is it okay as long as your personal interests are satisfied??

Spot on!! Good call Wig :okthumb:[/b][/quote]
:salute: :salute: :salute: :D

Back at ya!

clemsontiger 03-15-2004 11:54 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack+Mar 15 2004, 06:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Joe Sixpack @ Mar 15 2004, 06:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by -Peaches@Mar 15 2004, 01:53 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Joe Sixpack
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@Mar 15 2004, 05:44 PM
Australia has never aspired to be number one because of our small population.

If becoming a murderous, warmongering regime is what it takes to be number one then I'll happily pass.

Besides, you're certainly not number one when it comes to quality of life and that's all that matters as far as I'm concerned.


Joe, who do you think Australia would call if someone decided that a big place with so few people would be easy to take over? B)

Australia would be one of the most difficult countries in the world to invade because of our location and our geography.

Who do you think is capable of invading Australia?[/b][/quote]
There is a reason that the British sent their criminals to Australia and it wasn't for the scenery.

Dravyk 03-16-2004 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Mar 15 2004, 12:59 PM
Here is the story

Interestingly this online vote on CNN is being taken

Do you agree with Spain's premier-elect that his country's troops should be pulled from Iraq?

Yes 54% 2807 votes

No 46% 2354 votes

Total: 5161 votes

Saw that article and that poll the other day. Made me wonder some things.

Is that poll and its results

- only for English speakers (and possibly few Spanish)
- is there a seperate poll in Spanish in which people from Spain are voting
- are the results only of the English poll, or if it is multilingual, the results of all the polls (if they exist)

Depending on how it was done would tell me how useful the poll is (or isn't) or what slant it is taking by the voters. Naturally there is no explanation on the CNN site itself so I find it pretty useless.

Meni 03-16-2004 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by Mike AI@Mar 15 2004, 02:09 PM
Nick if you assume the reason for gonig to war was WMD, then it looks like a fuck up.

If you see it as the US securing a base of operation to stablize a region of vital importance, to be near the precious oil for long term ecnomics - it is BRILLIANT!

More then one President, Prime Minister has thought about getting into the oil fields on the middle east.

Bush has pulled it off, pretty effortlessly ( militarily speaking), and there has not been a huge "arab street" counter...

Iraq is about oil, stabilization of middle east, putting pressure on saudi arabia, the WMD and getting ride of a tyrant are nice window dressing.

If Saddam had kept playing ball with the US, he would still be in power.

Mike did GW tell us thats we went for Oil?
for oil?

oil?
we talklng about oil

oil?

not a game

oil

oil man

we talking about oil

oil son

oil


(oil is replacing practice in this post)

Meni 03-16-2004 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by Vick@Mar 15 2004, 04:41 PM
Wig - :okthumb:


Seriously Joe - where are your convictions? Sounds like you have USA envy (just poking at ya) -

You have to understand, we, the USA are #1 and by nature will do what it takes to remain #1 - you being beneath will have your views

I'm not sorry you aren't the top dog and can't appreciate the view from here (and what it took to get here)

Vick we are number 1 in what?

number 1 hockey?

number 1 in scholastic scores?

number 1 in quality of living?

number 1 in less taxation?

number 1,, in gun deaths!!!!!!

um number 1 in? hypocrisy?

number 1 in football? yup

number 1 in baseball? yup

hoop yup

number 1 in life expectancy?

number 1 in freedom?

number 1 in what dude

Vick 03-16-2004 02:43 PM

Everything that matters - being the only Superpower :D

and #1 in Freedom :D

Vick 03-16-2004 03:15 PM

p.s. - Please let me add

There are great countries in the world, many great places to live and we in terms of humanity are fortunate to have this diversity

I chose the USA as #1 for freedom for many reasons (not putting down any other countries or cultures) one of the major reasons is a lower tax rate than many countries


Also the USA owes a debt to the fine upstanding countries such as England and Australia who chose to stand united with the USA in our challenges against terrorism (and fight for oil and stability in the Middle East)

Yes you can disagree and/or flame me as much as you like (or not) that's one of the great things about the Internet - exchange of ideas and information




:salute: :stout:

Meni 03-16-2004 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by Vick@Mar 16 2004, 02:51 PM
Everything that matters - being the only Superpower :D

and #1 in Freedom :D

number 1 in freedom?
really?
am I free to listen to Stern in FL?
can I see a tit on tv?
i can in europe
dude the freedom shit is pretty old
how limited is freedom in Amsterdam?
or Paris
or Tokyo?
or Montreal?
or Rio?
or Sydney?
fill me in bro
cuz keep braggin about superpower and thats just a sword fight dude
our schools suck
thats our future dude
$500K fine for "INDECENCY" what ever THAT IS
thats our future
The religious right trying to take away a woman's right to abortion
limit stell cel research
NO gay marriages thats just pure EVIL huh

the drug companies fuck us on our meds and the FDA is in bed with the Med companies
we pay up the ass for the same meds sold in Canada

aeon 03-16-2004 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by Meni+Mar 16 2004, 11:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Meni @ Mar 16 2004, 11:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Vick@Mar 15 2004, 04:41 PM
Wig - :okthumb:


Seriously Joe - where are your convictions? Sounds like you have USA envy (just poking at ya) -

You have to understand, we, the USA are #1 and by nature will do what it takes to remain #1 - you being beneath will have your views

I'm not sorry you aren't the top dog and can't appreciate the view from here (and what it took to get here)

Vick we are number 1 in what?

number 1 hockey?

number 1 in scholastic scores?

number 1 in quality of living?

number 1 in less taxation?

number 1,, in gun deaths!!!!!!

um number 1 in? hypocrisy?

number 1 in football? yup

number 1 in baseball? yup

hoop yup

number 1 in life expectancy?

number 1 in freedom?

number 1 in what dude[/b][/quote]
#1 in porn related companies and revenues. :salute:

J'sdude 03-16-2004 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by Mike AI@Mar 15 2004, 10:14 AM
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/040315/1/3irv0.html

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The war in Iraq was a disaster, the occupation of Iraq is a disaster," Zapatero, 43, told Cadena Ser radio Monday.

This guy is out of touch. The War in Iraq was one of the most successful ever. What other country could have pulled off such a swift victory with so few casualties? Militarily speaking it was amazing. ( were there mistakes? of course - it is war. )

The occupation has had some problems, definatly some lack of planning and knowledge of mid east mind sets and such. However, I think it has gone pretty well.

It has not even celerated the first anniversy of the start of the war yet....
This is but a small snipit in time.

PD you are an old guy, how long before Vietnam became an major politcal issue with regards to the occupation and war? I know it was not less then a year.

Superbly planned....not. It was a cakewalk of an arms bazaar. Bambi meets Godzilla.
The war that should never have happened, chasing weapons of mass destruction that never existed. Sadam has never had weapons of mass destruction. Now before you go off your nut and blather on about gas; they used mustard gas which is a tactical battlefield weapon. Been known to kill fewer that the MOAB. But certainly not a WMD.
While we are at it, could you please post a list of all those countries you feel are entitled to possess WMD and why?

Meni 03-18-2004 12:46 AM

Yeah

you Bush punks

can you show me a list of countries allowed to have WMD

J'sdude 03-18-2004 08:38 AM

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Originally posted by Meni@Mar 17 2004, 09:54 PM
Yeah

you Bush punks

can you show me a list of countries allowed to have WMD

How about we start with.....for a hundred dollars....
Third world countries that should be allowed to have nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons...
1. Israel
2. North Korea
3. Iran

Please add your choice so we can make the world a safer place with another decade of mutually assured destruction


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