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Jason K 03-02-2004 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Mar 2 2004, 11:58 AM
J&A, you know me, and you know that I know Nick and Anthony....
THINK:
if you approached me instead of the boards,
would it help or hurt the process?

Oh well......it's a mute point now.

nothing is impossible icq 70744151

Winetalk.com 03-02-2004 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jason K+Mar 2 2004, 03:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jason K @ Mar 2 2004, 03:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Mar 2 2004, 11:58 AM
J&A, you know me, and you know that I know Nick and Anthony....
THINK:
if you approached me instead of the boards,
would it help or hurt the process?

Oh well......it's a mute point now.

nothing is impossible icq 70744151[/b][/quote]
for me it's impossible,
where EGO's and stepped toes are involved,

I do know my limitations

Peaches 03-02-2004 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jason K@Mar 2 2004, 03:54 PM
Peaches - Funny how you lable us the bad guys. Your thoughts begin to make my stomach turn. Don't think crazy thoughts....it's not ness.
I asked if this was a just a knee jerk reaction from you guys and all I got was that you wanted his home address to serve him papers. In fact, Alex even reiterated that "knock knock" meant you would be doing just that, and it was not threatening him in any way.

I don't have a dog in this fight and for all I know, Nick broke into your offices and stole tens of thousands of dollars from you. But to bring someone's home and family into the mix is just wrong, IMHO. Period. :(

Carrie 03-02-2004 02:54 PM

"Why is everyone to assume there is a bounty on your head.....isn't an accurate address needed to serve papers"

Well, because on G F Y you said this:
"$2500 reward given to anyone that can provide us with the home address of Nick Allaby in BC Canada. You will be paid as soon as we verify it ourselves."

and

"ATTENTION EVERYONE! MAKE IT 5K IF YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING MY STAFF IN PERSONAL CONTACT WITH HIM."

He has a business address that everyone knows - he even posted it above. If you wanted to serve him, you could just do so at his business address.
Yet you specifically asked for his home address. (Where, as Peaches noted, his children and pregnant wife are.)

Winetalk.com 03-02-2004 02:56 PM

P.S. you see what I mean?

"nickatilynx (3:05 PM) :
fuck off serge!!!"


Ecclesiastes
OR, THE PREACHER
3

A Time for Everything
1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

2 a time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

3 a time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;

4 a time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;

5 a time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;

6 a time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;

7 a time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

8 a time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

Alex From San Diego 03-02-2004 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches+Mar 2 2004, 12:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Mar 2 2004, 12:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Jason K@Mar 2 2004, 03:54 PM
Peaches - Funny how you lable us the bad guys. Your thoughts begin to make my stomach turn. Don't think crazy thoughts....it's not ness.
I asked if this was a just a knee jerk reaction from you guys and all I got was that you wanted his home address to serve him papers. In fact, Alex even reiterated that "knock knock" meant you would be doing just that, and it was not threatening him in any way.

I don't have a dog in this fight and for all I know, Nick broke into your offices and stole tens of thousands of dollars from you. But to bring someone's home and family into the mix is just wrong, IMHO. Period. :([/b][/quote]
Well a smart man would not jeopardize his family with shady practices even if it is to have him served. There is no harm in that. Maybe that will make his wife aware of what he is doing. For all I know, she is a nice person and doesn't know what he does and how he does it. I have no beef with his family. I have a beef with Nick so quit trying to make mountain out of a mole hill and instigating jibberish where it doesn't concern you.

I posted my home address and I'm not worried if someone comes knocking on my door. I'm not worried becasue I know I haven't done anything to warrant someone to come over and serve me with papers.

Alex From San Diego 03-02-2004 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie@Mar 2 2004, 12:02 PM
"Why is everyone to assume there is a bounty on your head.....isn't an accurate address needed to serve papers"

Well, because on G F Y you said this:
"$2500 reward given to anyone that can provide us with the home address of Nick Allaby in BC Canada. You will be paid as soon as we verify it ourselves."

and

"ATTENTION EVERYONE! MAKE IT 5K IF YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING MY STAFF IN PERSONAL CONTACT WITH HIM."

He has a business address that everyone knows - he even posted it above. If you wanted to serve him, you could just do so at his business address.
Yet you specifically asked for his home address. (Where, as Peaches noted, his children and pregnant wife are.)

Lay off watching the Godfather, Casino, Good Fellas and the Soprano....

Use your head and quit digging for something that isn't there.

Jason K 03-02-2004 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie@Mar 2 2004, 12:02 PM
"Why is everyone to assume there is a bounty on your head.....isn't an accurate address needed to serve papers"

Well, because on G F Y you said this:
"$2500 reward given to anyone that can provide us with the home address of Nick Allaby in BC Canada. You will be paid as soon as we verify it ourselves."

and

"ATTENTION EVERYONE! MAKE IT 5K IF YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING MY STAFF IN PERSONAL CONTACT WITH HIM."

He has a business address that everyone knows - he even posted it above. If you wanted to serve him, you could just do so at his business address.
Yet you specifically asked for his home address. (Where, as Peaches noted, his children and pregnant wife are.)

You don't know all the facts....Don't you think we tried that a biz address already. Do you think Nick is that Stupid. He is a know spammer. He knoes what he is doing. You don't know what you are saying. I legal representative serving papers to a verified address is not threatning to a persons family.

Anthony 03-02-2004 03:10 PM

Unfucking real.

Everyone sees your threats as face value. Everyone.

sarettah 03-02-2004 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego@Mar 2 2004, 02:50 PM
Apparantly you have a past history I wish we were aware of according to all the ICQ's I have received....You owe some serious money...

Heresay ain't worth squat.....

Tell all your icq'rs to bring it to Oprano....... Talking behind the back and referencing "anonymous" supporters might be the GFY way, it might even be the "Confucy" way..... but it aint the Oprano way.......

Jason K 03-02-2004 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anthony@Mar 2 2004, 12:18 PM
Unfucking real.

Everyone sees your threats as face value. Everyone.

Anthony, How could you let this happen. I trusted you. When you said you were not happy with the joins and recommened to move onto the next sponsor on this list....I said "cool whatever you say". Anthony step up....you know what's right. You know that facts. What about the money for the sponsors you guys never sent to? What about that money? I mean not even a responce on what you think you should have made on thos mailers that were sent out 24-48 hours at a time. Anthony I know you are better than that.

Carrie 03-02-2004 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego@Mar 2 2004, 03:08 PM
I have a beef with Nick so quit trying to make mountain out of a mole hill and instigating jibberish where it doesn't concern you.

Sorry, but you made it everyone's business when you guys posted 3+ threads about it here and on other boards AND asked people to dig up Nick's home address for you.

Jason K 03-02-2004 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie+Mar 2 2004, 12:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Carrie @ Mar 2 2004, 12:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Alex From San Diego@Mar 2 2004, 03:08 PM
I have a beef with Nick so quit trying to make mountain out of a mole hill and instigating jibberish where it doesn't concern you.

Sorry, but you made it everyone's business when you guys posted 3+ threads about it here and on other boards AND asked people to dig up Nick's home address for you.[/b][/quote]
That's Right Carrie!!!! Sometimes you need an alternate address when you need to fid someone. It does know good to serve papers to an address that a person is rarely at. The court Canadian and US court system does it all the time.

Jason K 03-02-2004 03:41 PM

It's funny that so many of you come to Nick's defence. You begin to think what are their business pratices as well

sarettah 03-02-2004 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jason K@Mar 2 2004, 03:49 PM
It's funny that so many of you come to Nick's defence. You begin to think what are their business pratices as well
Hmmm, guilt by association eh ?? Nice try, won't work.....

I haven't seen too many jump to Nick's and Ant's defense (they really don't need any of our help) as to question your motives and tactics...

Nick and Ant are known entities on Oprano, you guys are known and from what I known generally well thought of, but, the tactics we have seen so far seem to leave something to be desired.....

It is usually much better to just plain out state your case and allow them to state their case (at least if you are going to take it public). A better alternative would be to get in touch with Serge or do a post with a title like "Hey Nick, hit me up in email" with a message that says something like "Hey, been trying to reach you". Many folks here would have offered up ways to get a hold of them.

Instead, you chose the "drama" route and you reap what you sow around here........... :okthumb:

Opti 03-02-2004 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jason K@Mar 3 2004, 06:49 AM
It's funny that so many of you come to Nick's defence. You begin to think what are their business pratices as well
Fuck me dead... I thought you guys were switched on before this...

Now the world is against you and anyone that doesnt agree is "guilty by association"??

No one thinks you shouldnt get paid if you deserve it... But you have just acted like a total ass... and its hard to disagree with Nick about him telling you to fuck off now... Anyone would!

In fact I imagine he would have a better leg to stand on suing you civily for that bounty thread on GFY than you would have of convincing a judge he did you wrong.

Thruster 03-02-2004 03:56 PM

Greetings all,

Nick you don't know me but your buddy Anthony sure does since he got $3000 from us http://www.orgasmcash.com last month for a Traffic/Join Prepay for 100 joins @ $30 per join.

Yeah Anthony you sent us some traffic and got like 13 joins but where's the rest of the traffic/joins we prepaid for?
You haven't returned our phone calls, IM''s and e-mails?

Where's our money ?

And for the record I have been doing business with JasonandAlex for almost a year now and never have I ever come across a situation where Jason and Alex have been dishonest or unprofessional with me.

Where's our money Anthony?

ray

Alex From San Diego 03-02-2004 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Opti+Mar 2 2004, 01:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Opti @ Mar 2 2004, 01:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Jason K@Mar 3 2004, 06:49 AM
It's funny that so many of you come to Nick's defence. You begin to think what are their business pratices as well
Fuck me dead... I thought you guys were switched on before this...

Now the world is against you and anyone that doesnt agree is "guilty by association"??

No one thinks you shouldnt get paid if you deserve it... But you have just acted like a total ass... and its hard to disagree with Nick about him telling you to fuck off now... Anyone would!

In fact I imagine he would have a better leg to stand on suing you civily for that bounty thread on GFY than you would have of convincing a judge he did you wrong.[/b][/quote]
Then he should try that...I posted my home address for him to serve me...lol

Anthony 03-02-2004 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Thruster@Mar 2 2004, 01:04 PM
Greetings all,

Nick you don't know me but your buddy Anthony sure does since he got $3000 from us http://www.orgasmcash.com last month for a Traffic/Join Prepay for 100 joins @ $30 per join.

Yeah Anthony you sent us some traffic and got like 13 joins but where's the rest of the traffic/joins we prepaid for?
You haven't returned our phone calls, IM''s and e-mails?

Where's our money ?

And for the record I have been doing business with JasonandAlex for almost a year now and never have I ever come across a situation where Jason and Alex have been dishonest or unprofessional with me.

Where's our money Anthony?

ray

Over 30k clicks sent to your program, 12 joins. We sent over 20k, before we noticed it You had entrance consoles popping up on entry infront of your paysite randomly, which we caught numerous times, following our own links which we don't get credit for. Even Jason and Alex told me that they lost quite a bit of money and traffic due to your entrance consoles, before you took them off for them. We have sent the traffic that converted with us using the previous contract, we sent too stats of an average 1:200. You are mainly responsible for the bad taste we have in our mouths over this contract with J&A.

We have completed our end sending our traffic. In fact at 1:200 conversions, you owe us money.

Winetalk.com 03-02-2004 04:12 PM

Orgasm Cash,
even ME didn't put pop up consoles, exit consoles ONLY....

if you need my consulting about HOW TO NEVER GET CAUGHT BY AFFILIATES,
I charge $5000 fee, but I GUARANTEE the results...

What and how I was doing haven't become public for 2 years AFTER I exited the business.....fucking Pushrod and his big mouth!
;-))))

Jason K 03-02-2004 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sarettah+Mar 2 2004, 12:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sarettah @ Mar 2 2004, 12:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Jason K@Mar 2 2004, 03:49 PM
It's funny that so many of you come to Nick's defence. You begin to think what are their business pratices as well
Hmmm, guilt by association eh ?? Nice try, won't work.....

I haven't seen too many jump to Nick's and Ant's defense (they really don't need any of our help) as to question your motives and tactics...

Nick and Ant are known entities on Oprano, you guys are known and from what I known generally well thought of, but, the tactics we have seen so far seem to leave something to be desired.....

It is usually much better to just plain out state your case and allow them to state their case (at least if you are going to take it public). A better alternative would be to get in touch with Serge or do a post with a title like "Hey Nick, hit me up in email" with a message that says something like "Hey, been trying to reach you". Many folks here would have offered up ways to get a hold of them.

Instead, you chose the "drama" route and you reap what you sow around here........... :okthumb:[/b][/quote]
sarettah you don't even know the facts. Bringing it to the boards is our last attempt. Drama is the last thing we wanted. This has nothing to do with being a regular or not on Oprano. This is about right and wrong.

:salute:

Nickatilynx 03-02-2004 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anthony+Mar 2 2004, 01:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Anthony @ Mar 2 2004, 01:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Thruster@Mar 2 2004, 01:04 PM
Greetings all,

Nick you don't know me but your buddy Anthony sure does since he got $3000 from us http://www.orgasmcash.com last month for a Traffic/Join Prepay for 100 joins @ $30 per join.

Yeah Anthony you sent us some traffic and got like 13 joins but where's the rest of the traffic/joins we prepaid for?
You haven't returned our phone calls, IM''s and e-mails?

Where's our money ?

And for the record I have been doing business with JasonandAlex for almost a year now and never have I ever come across a situation where Jason and Alex have been dishonest or unprofessional with me.

Where's our money Anthony?

ray

Over 30k clicks sent to your program, 12 joins. We sent over 20k, before we noticed it You had entrance consoles popping up on entry infront of your paysite randomly, which we caught numerous times, following our own links which we don't get credit for. Even Jason and Alex told me that they lost quite a bit of money and traffic due to your entrance consoles, before you took them off for them. We have sent the traffic that converted with us using the previous contract, we sent too stats of an average 1:200. You are mainly responsible for the bad taste we have in our mouths over this contract with J&A.

We have completed our end sending our traffic. In fact at 1:200 conversions, you owe us money.[/b][/quote]
Orgasm Cash , GAME OVER!

thank you for playing.

Please wire 3k to continue :)

Jason K 03-02-2004 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anthony+Mar 2 2004, 01:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Anthony @ Mar 2 2004, 01:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Thruster@Mar 2 2004, 01:04 PM
Greetings all,

Nick you don't know me but your buddy Anthony sure does since he got $3000 from us http://www.orgasmcash.com last month for a Traffic/Join Prepay for 100 joins @ $30 per join.

Yeah Anthony you sent us some traffic and got like 13 joins but where's the rest of the traffic/joins we prepaid for?
You haven't returned our phone calls, IM''s and e-mails?

Where's our money ?

And for the record I have been doing business with JasonandAlex for almost a year now and never have I ever come across a situation where Jason and Alex have been dishonest or unprofessional with me.

Where's our money Anthony?

ray

Over 30k clicks sent to your program, 12 joins. We sent over 20k, before we noticed it You had entrance consoles popping up on entry infront of your paysite randomly, which we caught numerous times, following our own links which we don't get credit for. Even Jason and Alex told me that they lost quite a bit of money and traffic due to your entrance consoles, before you took them off for them. We have sent the traffic that converted with us using the previous contract, we sent too stats of an average 1:200. You are mainly responsible for the bad taste we have in our mouths over this contract with J&A.

We have completed our end sending our traffic. In fact at 1:200 conversions, you owe us money.[/b][/quote]
Anthony with both agreed that the consoles sholud have been taken down. I told you to stop sending to them until the consoles were down. We both agreed on that. Let's say you fullfilled that contract....what about the the other sponsors you sent to and even the ones you did not send to?

Jason K 03-02-2004 04:36 PM

For Example Anthony,

You send traffic to Company "A"

Site Raw Unq Sales Ratio Earnings
Total 1898 1399 1 1:1399 35.00

You tested this sponsor overnight and the next morning said you did not want to push this sponsor. You then siad you'll pay the remaining money back on this one. What is your normal ratio? How many joins did yoiu think you should have made? Whatever it is I know it can't be 100 joins

Alex From San Diego 03-02-2004 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nickatilynx+Mar 2 2004, 01:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ Mar 2 2004, 01:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by -Anthony@Mar 2 2004, 01:14 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Thruster
Quote:

@Mar 2 2004, 01:04 PM
Greetings all,

Nick you don't know me but your buddy Anthony sure does since he got $3000 from us http://www.orgasmcash.com last month for a Traffic/Join Prepay for 100 joins @ $30 per join.

Yeah Anthony you sent us some traffic and got like 13 joins but where's the rest of the traffic/joins we prepaid for?
You haven't returned our phone calls, IM''s and e-mails?

Where's our money ?

And for the record I have been doing business with JasonandAlex for almost a year now and never have I ever come across a situation where Jason and Alex have been dishonest or unprofessional with me.

Where's our money Anthony?

ray


Over 30k clicks sent to your program, 12 joins. We sent over 20k, before we noticed it You had entrance consoles popping up on entry infront of your paysite randomly, which we caught numerous times, following our own links which we don't get credit for. Even Jason and Alex told me that they lost quite a bit of money and traffic due to your entrance consoles, before you took them off for them. We have sent the traffic that converted with us using the previous contract, we sent too stats of an average 1:200. You are mainly responsible for the bad taste we have in our mouths over this contract with J&A.

We have completed our end sending our traffic. In fact at 1:200 conversions, you owe us money.

Orgasm Cash , GAME OVER!

thank you for playing.

Please wire 3k to continue :)[/b][/quote]
Nick you are in plain english.....dumb

That would be like someone coming to me saying hey I converted 1:200 with your program but didn't break even after expenses......you owe me the difference....

Maybe your traffic sucks...ever think of that?

Jason K 03-02-2004 04:38 PM

Anthony.....I know you know what is right. I know you are better than this.

Nickatilynx 03-02-2004 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego+Mar 2 2004, 01:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Alex From San Diego @ Mar 2 2004, 01:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by -Nickatilynx@Mar 2 2004, 01:23 PM
Quote:

Originally posted by -Anthony@Mar 2 2004, 01:14 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Thruster

Quote:

Quote:

@Mar 2 2004, 01:04 PM
Greetings all,

Nick you don't know me but your buddy Anthony sure does since he got $3000 from us http://www.orgasmcash.com last month for a Traffic/Join Prepay for 100 joins @ $30 per join.

Yeah Anthony you sent us some traffic and got like 13 joins but where's the rest of the traffic/joins we prepaid for?
You haven't returned our phone calls, IM''s and e-mails?

Where's our money ?

And for the record I have been doing business with JasonandAlex for almost a year now and never have I ever come across a situation where Jason and Alex have been dishonest or unprofessional with me.

Where's our money Anthony?

ray


Over 30k clicks sent to your program, 12 joins. We sent over 20k, before we noticed it You had entrance consoles popping up on entry infront of your paysite randomly, which we caught numerous times, following our own links which we don't get credit for. Even Jason and Alex told me that they lost quite a bit of money and traffic due to your entrance consoles, before you took them off for them. We have sent the traffic that converted with us using the previous contract, we sent too stats of an average 1:200. You are mainly responsible for the bad taste we have in our mouths over this contract with J&A.

We have completed our end sending our traffic. In fact at 1:200 conversions, you owe us money.


Orgasm Cash , GAME OVER!

thank you for playing.

Please wire 3k to continue :)

Nick you are in plain english.....dumb

That would be like someone coming to me saying hey I converted 1:200 with your program but didn't break even after expenses......you owe me the difference....

Maybe your traffic sucks...ever think of that?[/b][/quote]
ahahahahahahahaha

I'm dumb?

So mail traffic sucks?

Ok , lets see.....

You were SOOOOO delighted with our traffic when it was being sent to Paris Hilton that you went and resold on.

ahahahahahahaha

if the traffic sucked that was errr....pretty dumb , huh?

sarettah 03-02-2004 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jason K@Mar 2 2004, 04:23 PM
sarettah you don't even know the facts. Bringing it to the boards is our last attempt. Drama is the last thing we wanted. This has nothing to do with being a regular or not on Oprano. This is about right and wrong.

Drama is the last thing you wanted ??

Payup Nickatilynx http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?s...5356&act=SF&f=1

And I don't know any of the facts other than what you and Anthony have posted.

And as I stated I don't see too many jumping to Nick and Ant's defense as I do see them questioning your tactics....

So, what are the facts.......

In clear simple terms so we can understand them please........

Jason K 03-02-2004 04:42 PM

Anthony you are a good person. I've met you and I can tell you are good in the heart. Please do what is right. It goes a long way.

Diamond Jim 03-02-2004 04:45 PM

How does this whole thing work? Why are they sending traffic via Jason and Alex instead of to a sponsor directly? Can a person get paid more by sending traffic via Jason and Alex?

Jason K 03-02-2004 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sarettah+Mar 2 2004, 01:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sarettah @ Mar 2 2004, 01:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Jason K@Mar 2 2004, 04:23 PM
sarettah you don't even know the facts. Bringing it to the boards is our last attempt. Drama is the last thing we wanted. This has nothing to do with being a regular or not on Oprano. This is about right and wrong.

Drama is the last thing you wanted ??

Payup Nickatilynx http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?s...5356&act=SF&f=1

And I don't know any of the facts other than what you and Anthony have posted.

And as I stated I don't see too many jumping to Nick and Ant's defense as I do see them questioning your tactics....

So, what are the facts.......

In clear simple terms so we can understand them please........[/b][/quote]
sarettah,

Nick is trying to say this is about the Paris Hilton traffic.....it has nothing to do with it. It is completely different. I can only say that I respect your opinion on the tactics and I would love to share all info with you so you may make your own judgments. It's your call...it's an invite. Don't say I did not offer.

icq

Jason K 03-02-2004 04:49 PM

70744151

Anthony 03-02-2004 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jason K@Mar 2 2004, 01:50 PM
Anthony you are a good person. I've met you and I can tell you are good in the heart. Please do what is right. It goes a long way.
I am a good person. Have been and always will be.

I am, however, not a person who stands around watching people put cash money rewards for the home address of my partner with threats and promises of violence.

You have read on this board, at any time, anyone who have known us for over 5 years can reach us. You know Serge, and he is one of my earliest mentors. This could have been handled off the boards. I could not be reached,being out of town, but Nick has always been reachable. If you couldn't get him on the phone, his email and icq is in his signature.

You brought the current level to where it is. NO ONE takes your threats, your bounty on Nick's home address as what you portray it to be, serving of papers. 5 grand for that info? Please.

We take at face value your actions and will act accordingly.

On advice of our legal counsel, we are now ending our discussion of this matter. We await whatever action you send.

Winetalk.com 03-02-2004 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Diamond Jim@Mar 2 2004, 04:53 PM
How does this whole thing work? Why are they sending traffic via Jason and Alex instead of to a sponsor directly? Can a person get paid more by sending traffic via Jason and Alex?
could be....
I used to have sponsors paying 18 cents per click to the public,
and those who sent them traffic via me and got paid 4 cents, ended up wiht more money!

Everything is relative in this world and business we've chosen
;_)))

Jason K 03-02-2004 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Anthony+Mar 2 2004, 02:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Anthony @ Mar 2 2004, 02:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Jason K@Mar 2 2004, 01:50 PM
Anthony you are a good person. I've met you and I can tell you are good in the heart. Please do what is right. It goes a long way.
I am a good person. Have been and always will be.

I am, however, not a person who stands around watching people put cash money rewards for the home address of my partner with threats and promises of violence.

You have read on this board, at any time, anyone who have known us for over 5 years can reach us. You know Serge, and he is one of my earliest mentors. This could have been handled off the boards. I could not be reached,being out of town, but Nick has always been reachable. If you couldn't get him on the phone, his email and icq is in his signature.

You brought the current level to where it is. NO ONE takes your threats, your bounty on Nick's home address as what you portray it to be, serving of papers. 5 grand for that info? Please.

We take at face value your actions and will act accordingly.

On advice of our legal counsel, we are now ending our discussion of this matter. We await whatever action you send.[/b][/quote]
You watch too much TV Anthony. Who says it's a bounty. I'm done talking about that ridicules remark. Don't say I could have gotten a hold of Nick.

You know we tried! Day and Night. Nobody returned our calls, emails, icq's. You are saying all of this because you want everyone to think that you guys are so right.

Jason K 03-02-2004 05:04 PM

I guess we are all done. Let the courts decide. By the way Anthony....Paul is our Attorney....you know the one who put a freeze on your bank account a while back.

Opti 03-02-2004 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by Diamond Jim@Mar 3 2004, 07:53 AM
How does this whole thing work? Why are they sending traffic via Jason and Alex instead of to a sponsor directly? Can a person get paid more by sending traffic via Jason and Alex?
Adstats was not that easy to get hooked up with is probably one reason.. They wanted 100+ daily joins minimum for a webmaster to have an account toward the end.

Also.. J&A probably setup largish pre-pay deals from places like orgasmcrash at $35 a join.. then go about buying the joins in smaller chunks from other people at $30, pre-paid..

(pre-pay Sucks Ass 80% of the time imho.. if you dont trust them to pay.. dont fucking send! Too often it ends up in arguments like this)

Speaking of adstats, and being paid... has anyone been paid out anything more of whats owed lately?

Vick 03-02-2004 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by Opti@Mar 2 2004, 05:15 PM
Also.. J&A probably setup largish pre-pay deals from places like orgasmcrash at $35 a join.. then go about buying the joins in smaller chunks from other people at $30, pre-paid..


orgasmcrash??? he he he

Anthony 03-02-2004 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by Jason K@Mar 2 2004, 02:12 PM
I guess we are all done. Let the courts decide. By the way Anthony....Paul is our Attorney....you know the one who put a freeze on your bank account a while back.
At the risk of my counsel being pissed at me for even replying to this.

If Paul is your lawyer, THEN YOU HAD NO REASON WHATSOVER TO PUT A 5000 REWARD ON NICK'S HOME ADDRES AS KENT SNOWSELL HAS THAT ON FILE.

So right there, catching you in that lie, proves ulterior motives other than serving legal papers. Yes we take threats to home and family very seriously.

I am done.

Jason K 03-02-2004 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by Anthony+Mar 2 2004, 02:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Anthony @ Mar 2 2004, 02:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Jason K@Mar 2 2004, 02:12 PM
I guess we are all done. Let the courts decide. By the way Anthony....Paul is our Attorney....you know the one who put a freeze on your bank account a while back.
At the risk of my counsel being pissed at me for even replying to this.

If Paul is your lawyer, THEN YOU HAD NO REASON WHATSOVER TO PUT A 5000 REWARD ON NICK'S HOME ADDRES AS KENT SNOWSELL HAS THAT ON FILE.

So right there, catching you in that lie, proves ulterior motives other than serving legal papers. Yes we take threats to home and family very seriously.

I am done.[/b][/quote]
Just retained him my friend....just hours ago :biglaugh:


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