oh no, 100% agreement with that one[/b][/quote]
how do YOU know???

Think careful about your answer, I am a MARRIED man!
;-))))

Perhaps there will be an afterlife, "but no one will know where it's being held."20

Boris confronts Sonia in "Love and Death" with his anxiety about the meaning of life and the existence of God:

Boris: What if there is no God? ... What if we're just a bunch of absurd people who are running around with no rhyme or reason?

Sonia: But if there is no God, then life has no meaning. Why go on living? Why not just commit suicide?

Boris: Well, let's not get hysterical! I could be wrong. I'd hate to blow my brains out and then read in the papers they found something.

no im sure i like tits better then i like your dick....






final answer :rokk:

You misunderstand atheism.

Atheism is not necessarily denying the existance of god but an absence of belief in god.

This does not require faith.[/b][/quote]
Wrong. Atheism - in its simplest definition (a, "without" + theist "God" - denies the existence of God, whereas agnosticism suggests the presence or absence of God cannot be proven. Huxley invented the term "agnostic" from the Greek a, "without" + gnostikos, “not knowing”.

Wrong. Atheism - in its simplest definition (a, "without" + theist "God" - denies the existence of God, whereas agnosticism suggests the presence or absence of God cannot be proven. Huxley invented the term "agnostic" from the Greek a, "without" + gnostikos, “not knowing”.[/b][/quote]
One of the recurring themes in "Love and Death" is Boris' quest to receive some kind of sign from God: "If I could see a miracle, just one miracle.

If I could see a burning bush, or the seas part, or my Uncle Sasha pick up a check." Or again, "if only God would give me some sign. If He would just speak to me once, anything, one sentence, two words.

If He would just cough." Near the end of the film, when he finally sees an angel of God who tells him that he will be saved, he responds with the kind of trust one would expect of one who had been frustrated and insecure for so long: "I shall walk through the valley of the shadow of death.

In fact, now that I think of it, I shall run through the valley of the shadow of death because you get out of the valley quicker that way." Relieved and hopeful because of God's promise and the angel's appearance, it still seems wise to take advantage of the situation quickly and not trust that such a good thing will last.

Wrong. Atheism - in its simplest definition (a, "without" + theist "God" - denies the existence of God, whereas agnosticism suggests the presence or absence of God cannot be proven. Huxley invented the term "agnostic" from the Greek a, "without" + gnostikos, “not knowing”.[/b][/quote]
Sorry, you are wrong.

Atheism is a-theism. Without theism or without belief in God.

Agnosticism says nothing about belief in God.

You either have a belief or you don't. If you are not sure, you lack belief and are therefore an atheist not an agnostic.

Agnosticism is an untennable philosophical position. It is fence-sitting where there can be no fence-sitting.




Last edited by Joe Sixpack at Mar 1 2004, 02:15 PM

Joe,
So, when Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden, if you go for all these fairy tales, that evil woman convinced the man to eat the apple, but the apple came from the Tree of Knowledge. And the punishment that was then handed down, the woman gets to bleed and the guy's got to go to work, is the result of a man desiring, because his woman suggested that it would be a good idea, that he get all the knowledge that was supposedly the property and domain of God. So, that right away sets up Christianity as an anti- intellectual religion. You never want to be that smart. If you're a woman, it's going to be running down your leg, and if you're a guy, you're going to be in the salt mines for the rest of your life. So, just be a dumb fuck and you'll all go to heaven. That's the subtext of Christianity. [Frank Zappa]

Of course Christianity is anti-intellectual.

Christians don't question their beliefs. It is based upon blind faith.

Of course Christianity is anti-intellectual.

Christians don't question their beliefs. It is based upon blind faith.[/b][/quote]
and that makes us...INTELLECTUALS!

If I respect you and you respect me...we are BOTH respectable people!
;-))))

all I can say about the direction this thread has taken is ...


Jesus Fucking Christ

50 People who do not understand that JR is the only true Messiah


sure!!!

... but how will we keep the Vodka cold?

:(



Last edited by JR at Mar 1 2004, 03:30 PM

God bless Mel! he rocks!

great movie !!

science is the new religion..with it's metaphysical concept of "causation"...that the priesthood of determinism follows just as blindly as an evangelical preacher...

anyway - if yer interested in comparative studies - pm me...I have some books you might dig checking out.

best of luck -
aeon