Torone,
here is MY list of "wrongs":

1) The present powers claim GOD to be their boss,
thus eliminating ANYT responcibility before the people.
This is NOT an American way of
"By the people, for the people"

2) every time the pendalum swings to the extreme, it destroys the balance we all enjoy so much

Kerry and his ilk have had all this time to do nothing but attack with no reprisals. He has the media behind him; but has anyone ever asked him any hard questions?

BTW, about the UN...watch Haiti.[/b][/quote]
I never heard him, never read/watched media about him,
and the ONLY reason I'd vote for him today is..
because he isn't Bush

Who said the country was bad?

Might result in an incredibly ineffective presidency, republicans dont like to work *with* democratic presidents.

And as far as terror attacks go... i mean simply as a #'s game here... we've had what.. ONE TERROR ATTACK IN THE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY???? and this is grounds to devote the entire government to god?

MORE PEOPLE DIE FROM THE COMMON COLD THAN FROM TERRORISM EACH YEAR.

Fighting terrorism isnt about saving people or protecting people, it's about uniting people against a "bad guy". The very same reason that the middle eastern dictators are able to actually get a following is because they scream "those dirty americans!".

Nothing unites people like fear and hate. Kinda sad.

Exactly what I am hoping for. Status quo.

Liberal Idiots! You didn't read my posts properly.

Why, if this country is so bad, are you still here? Canada to the north, Mexico to the south...you HAVE choices. In fact, if the people from those countries keep moving here, you can have it pretty much to yourself in either place.

BTW, why DO you think they leave there to come here? Could it be for the very much lower tax rates, the economic opportunities, etc. which the Socialist Democommies want to do away with in favor of the mediocrity of Socialism/Communism?

Here's a little to think about:

Kerry has no core belief except the belief that (after 50 years of being there) the Democommies BELONG in power. He has advanced no plan except to bring this country into line with the Socialist community and put our defense into the incapable hands of the UN. He wants a 70% tax rate and confiscation of all income over a preset amount. The man is a COMMUNIST who is simply labeling himself a Democrat. Research the traitor, and discover what he is besides a gigolo...

you called me...Liberal?????????

I'd turn in my grave if I was dead....stop working on it,
heart attack is NOT how I plan on going
;-))))

after thinking about it,
I have only one question:
have you made your own research and can back it all up with FACTS,
or you singing the tune you heard from another ignoramus on the radio?

Flynt can't back up with facts the "abortion story"
(or he wouldn't be shooting blanks NOW and waited for the time when it matters)
and neither can your "preacher" back up the gigollo story.

now YOU think about it......

Look at the people on this board who normally sit somewhere in the middle politically. They are not pro-Kerry. They are anti-social conservatism.

The ghost of Giuseppe Garibaldi will get you on your next trip to Italy for that claim ...

I am far from flip-flopping. I will still support Bush. I will donate money and will vote for him. However his reelection chances are not looking too good right now.

He has done some things that I do not like - Carrie listed them above. I am not concerned about the God thing like Serge, it does not bother me at all.

My #1 issue is National Security, fighting Islamic Terrorism - this is something that will continue probably for my lifetime. I do not trust most Democrats to do the right thing. Turning our problems over to the UN will just make them worse.

Who said the country was bad?[/b][/quote]
Wazzamatta ... don't they teach logic at Yale.

If you don't agree with Torone's vision of America, you think the country is bad.



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making more educated decisions as more information becomes available is hardly "flip flopping". as you learn, you adapt and change and modify your views accordingly... otherwise, whats the point of learning?... education is everywhere... not just in college and it's more than just a crazy scheme to allow yourself to make the claim that your brighter than everyone though you have significantly less life experience to back that up.

The ghost of Giuseppe Garibaldi will get you on your next trip to Italy for that claim ...[/b][/quote]
Popes preceeded him....they got t"too much consolidation" as far as he was concerned
;-)))

yeah!
Stalin made it his life time prophecy to fight the enemy which was no longer their...
fighting with Trotskists 20 years after Trotsky's death killing his own people in the name of this struggle...


"Who will oversee the Overseers"?, Mike?

making more educated decisions as more information becomes available is hardly "flip flopping". as you learn, you adapt and change and modify your views accordingly... otherwise, whats the point of learning?... education is everywhere... not just in college and it's more than just a crazy scheme to allow yourself to make the claim that your brighter than everyone though you have significantly less life experience to back that up.[/b][/quote]
Labret ONLY learn and changes his point of views AFTER the picture Han's Burger "associate" at his door step delivered to him.
Before that, his FIRM belief was that stealing beastiality content from Hans WAS OK...

He DOES learn, even if he affraid to admit it
;-))))

I spent that semester at Rudy's drinking Samuel Adams and Guinness.

I have been a republician my whole life, as probably most business people are..... but, Bush just scares me. I have trouble remembering that he IS a republician. He seems to be on a mission like he has special insight from God. That is dangerous.... He forgets that we are his boss. I certainly would not vote for him, but I am not sold on Kerry either. Wish we had better choices! At this point in time - I would vote for Gore hahahaha...

Labret ONLY learn and changes his point of views AFTER the picture Han's Burger "associate" at his door step delivered to him.
Before that, his FIRM belief was that stealing beastiality content from Hans WAS OK...

He DOES learn, even if he affraid to admit it
;-))))[/b][/quote]


Serge, you do tend to switch back and forth on issues....

Terrorism has been an on going war since the mid 1980s, after 9-11 we decided to fight it like a war rather then criminal acts.

Just like I doubt you would ask the Israelis to give in, I hope you are not asking the US to give in.

The Stalin reference carries NO weight at all.

I would agree with this post all the way up to the Gore part LOL
but this is almost exactly how I feel about this topic


spaz

his stance is the most consistent of anyone here.

"more page views"

:lol:

Well, Mike, I will agree with you that comparing Bush to Stalin is more than a stretch than even I would go (antikee-rist will suffice). I'm not convinced that Serge is actually doing that ... but what Stalin was good at doing is trumping up charges against his enemies to justify his action.

And about those WMDs that the Iraqis were ready to deploy in 45 minutes, or the urnanium that they were trying to buy ...

Not everyone shares your, ahem, sophisticated and superior understanding of real politic. There are an awful lot of people out there who are really pissed off at the abscense of beef in that sammich.

let me remind you that when MY President was charged with exactly THE SAME thing during the last elections,
his answer was:
"Yes, I do, it's called LEARNING"
;-))

If you have a problem with me LEARNING from OUR President-
than you DO have a problem
;-)))))

PD read the reference correctly-
you did NOT....

Please See New Signature

:P

his stance is the most consistent of anyone here.

"more page views"

:lol:[/b][/quote]
page views my ass!

I am about to vote Democrats the second time in my life (never in Presidential Elections, though)
it's a PERSONAL DRAMA and all you can think of is business???

c'mon!

I'll generate more pageviews and uniques if I post on Pimpboard link:
Janet shows her tit AGAIN!
and point to Oprano..

wanna bet???
;-)))

page views my ass!

I am about to vote Democrats the second time in my life (never in Presidential Elections, though)
it's a PERSONAL DRAMA and all you can think of is business???

c'mon!

I'll generate more pageviews and uniques if I post on Pimpboard link:
Janet shows her tit AGAIN!
and point to Oprano..

wanna bet???
;-)))[/b][/quote]
Any rich person who votes democrat is a masochist.

you're right. sorry for not being sensitive to your feelings in these trying times. my bad.

:)

Any rich person who votes democrat is a masochist.[/b][/quote]
Buff,
you never paid 5,000,000 liras for a pack of cigarettes...


who is putting seeds of hyperinflation TODAY,
Republicans or Democrats?

Serge, I understand Bush has dropped the ball. But there is no way Kerry would be any better.

Lesser of 2 morons again?

I don't know which one is lesser...and this is why my soul is in turmoil.

you're right. sorry for not being sensitive to your feelings in these trying times. my bad.

:)[/b][/quote]
I beleive the sincerety of your post right after I beleive in the "Last Passions of Christ"
;-)))

I beleive the sincerety of your post right after I beleive in the "Last Passions of Christ"
;-)))[/b][/quote]
I think Bush is Jesus.

I just want to bounce back toward the middle for a few years.

That makes Bush Sr. God.

What would Jeb do?

Buff,
you never paid 5,000,000 liras for a pack of cigarettes...


who is putting seeds of hyperinflation TODAY,
Republicans or Democrats?[/b][/quote]
Well, I see it as a choice:

1) Hyperinflation, but lower taxation

2) Medium inflation, but hypertaxation.

That's why I vote Libertarian.

That makes Bush Sr. God.

What would Jeb do?[/b][/quote]
You have never heard of Gods lessor known son "Jeb"? Jeb is Hebrew for "that guy with the junky daughter"

when you pay 1,500,000 for a pack of cigarettes, do you really care what tax bracket you are in?

What's the mathematical term for "wasted vote"? Fuck that, what's the psychological term?

What's the mathematical term for "wasted vote"? Fuck that, what's the psychological term?[/b][/quote]
Voting for Republicans or Democrats is worse than "wasting" my vote. It is an enabling vote, a positive reenforcement for them and their evil policies. I would rather make a wasted protest vote of affirmation of liberty than affirm the evil policies and lying bastards in those other parties.

You vote for them and you're telling them "I support you." That's not the message I want them to get. I want them to get this message: "I would rather make an effort to piss my vote away than give it to you, you worthless shitbag. I'm not even going to sit at home and not vote -- that's how much I loathe you."