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Vick 02-25-2004 02:11 AM

To quote Axl Rose

I see ya standing there
You thing you're so cool
Why don't you just fuck off

You get nothing for nothing if that's what you do
Turn around bitch I got a use for you
Besides you ain't got nothing better to do
and I'm bored

Carrie 02-25-2004 02:15 AM

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Originally posted by PornoDoggy+Feb 24 2004, 10:56 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PornoDoggy @ Feb 24 2004, 10:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by -Colin@Feb 24 2004, 09:55 AM
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@Feb 24 2004, 09:13 AM
With a flat tax yu would pay 15% of the 6,000 Colin, that is the income from that low profit business


I understand what a flat tax is.

What I am pointing out is that Carrie mentions a flat tax and that she doesn't like going through all her receipts, figuring out car mileage, etc. Those are the costs of doing business though. If you have a home office that is a legitimate cost of doing business. Carrie's flat-tax won't change that.

Please refrain from clouding the issue with relevant facts.[/b][/quote]
OldJeff:
"With a flat tax yu would pay 15% of the 6,000 Colin, that is the income from that low profit business"

Thanks Jeff!
It's nice to be busy for the day and have someone else throw some common sense into PD's never-ending eye-rollers.

Vick 02-25-2004 02:17 AM

and I've already given the answer to this challenge in this thread

National Sales Tax ......

PornoDoggy 02-25-2004 04:08 AM

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Originally posted by Carrie+Feb 25 2004, 02:23 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Carrie @ Feb 25 2004, 02:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by -PornoDoggy@Feb 24 2004, 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by -Colin@Feb 24 2004, 09:55 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--OldJeff

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Quote:

@Feb 24 2004, 09:13 AM
With a flat tax yu would pay 15% of the 6,000 Colin, that is the income from that low profit business


I understand what a flat tax is.

What I am pointing out is that Carrie mentions a flat tax and that she doesn't like going through all her receipts, figuring out car mileage, etc. Those are the costs of doing business though. If you have a home office that is a legitimate cost of doing business. Carrie's flat-tax won't change that.


Please refrain from clouding the issue with relevant facts.

OldJeff:
"With a flat tax yu would pay 15% of the 6,000 Colin, that is the income from that low profit business"

Thanks Jeff!
It's nice to be busy for the day and have someone else throw some common sense into PD's never-ending eye-rollers.[/b][/quote]
I understood what Colin meant when he said "[your] flat-tax won't change that" as meaning that you are STILL going to have to fill out all the forms and do all the calculations, computations, and mean, nasty, terribly intrusive things you are doing right now/just did. So, the issue that I was addressing wasn't how much Colin would pay taxes on - it's the fantasy that taxes will EVER be as simple as you (or I, or anyone else) would like them to be.

I don't think it is that hard to understand - it's not anything complicated like the party affiliations of past presidents...

chodadog 02-25-2004 10:48 AM

There seems to be this common belief that the rich people of the world pay next to nothing in taxes 'caues of the countless loopholes their accountants take advantage of. And while i'm sure their accountants are doing absolutely everything within the boundaries of the law to serve their client, the fact remains that rich people are paying the bulk of the taxes. Yet poor people will continue to whine about how much tax they pay, and bitch about how the rich pay nothing, until the end of time.

Many poor people are poor for a good reason. They're stupid.

chodadog 02-25-2004 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by Vick@Feb 24 2004, 11:25 PM
and I've already given the answer to this challenge in this thread

National Sales Tax ......

I agree. A GST (goods and services tax) is a great idea, in my opinion. Rich people buy more stuff, and use more services. Thus, they pay more taxes. They have one in Australia, but it's only 10 percent. Hike it up, and cut income taxes, i say.

Rolo 02-25-2004 11:10 AM

I had this great idea, that we would just get a bill for whatever we used, and not have some other people make us pay % of our total income.
Then I realized that paying tax is not about making an efficient
economy, but about handing over your power/freedom/money too politicians, so they can control your life.

Tax is evil - no matter which form it takes... :(

Meni 02-25-2004 12:40 PM

I'm all set now!!
woohoo
I'm setting up a Religion
yeah baby
only in America!

Meni 02-25-2004 12:41 PM

wow what song just popped in my head?
"send me money, send me green, heaven you meet, make a contribution and you'll get the better seat.... bow to Leper Messiah"

Vick 02-25-2004 12:49 PM

god money i'll do anything for you
god money just tell me what you want me to
god money nail me up against the wall
god money don't want everything he wants it all


god money's not looking for the cure
god money's not concerned about the sick among the pure
god money let's go dancing on the backs of the bruised
god money's not one to choose

gregtx 02-25-2004 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by Vick@Feb 24 2004, 11:25 PM
and I've already given the answer to this challenge in this thread

National Sales Tax ......

I hear ya.. I preach this as well.. it would be so much easier for the IRS to police businesses.. vs induvidual.. and the more you make the more you spend.. the more taxes you pay.. but I"m sure CPA lobbyist groups.. and other people who benefit from the current IRS/TAX situation .. would never want anythign that would take away from thier jobs... H&R block would go bankrupt not being able to file its millions of 1040EZ's ;-)



Last edited by gregtx at Feb 25 2004, 05:08 PM

VooMan 02-25-2004 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by gregtx@Feb 25 2004, 08:07 PM
but I"m sure CPA lobbyist groups.. and other people who benefit from the current IRS/TAX situation .. would never want anythign that would take away from thier jobs... H&R block would go bankrupt not being able to file its millions of 1040EZ's ;-)
And God help the president who is in office when this happens...

Mind you, I am also in favor of a flat tax on consumption, but imagine the headlines: President puts millions of government employees out of work! H&R Block, along with hundreds of thousands of accountants are looking for jobs. The economy is in the toilet, spending is down... The Dow is crumbling... blah blah blah...

JR 02-25-2004 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by VooMan+Feb 25 2004, 07:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (VooMan @ Feb 25 2004, 07:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--gregtx@Feb 25 2004, 08:07 PM
but I"m sure CPA lobbyist groups.. and other people who benefit from the current IRS/TAX situation .. would never want anythign that would take away from thier jobs... H&R block would go bankrupt not being able to file its millions of 1040EZ's ;-)
And God help the president who is in office when this happens...

Mind you, I am also in favor of a flat tax on consumption, but imagine the headlines: President puts millions of government employees out of work! H&R Block, along with hundreds of thousands of accountants are looking for jobs. The economy is in the toilet, spending is down... The Dow is crumbling... blah blah blah...[/b][/quote]
accounting in relation to filing personal income taxes is a massive industry that should not exist in my opinion.

VooMan 02-25-2004 10:31 PM

Heh, I aced my tax classes, but I hated financial accounting. :)

In our opinion, based on the information provided to us by the corporation of Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe, on 12/31/20XX the financial statements provided herein, are about right, give or take...


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