Damn. I'm not good enough for a retired stunt cock to be willing to die for me.

That's cold.

I read the board, Peaches. I don't need anyone to tell me that buffy claims combat experience. I put in 9 years, 5 months, and 22 days myself, and would have retired at 30 if it hadn't been for a personal situation involving my children.

And unlike Buffy, I served to protect Americans - all Americans. Lefties and righties and and welfare mommas and dilatant rich folks. That even includes those igrnorant rednecks who consider themselves better than others by virtue of their race, their financial status, where they went to school, where theyt happened to be born, the amount of money that their mommy and daddy had, or whatever other reasons they used to convince themselves that their sorry, pathetic asses have some meaning.

As far as the rest of your diatriabe, Buffy, how utterly predictable and completely meaningless.[/b][/quote]
What's with this stunt cock business? Am I supposed to be insulted when people point out that I've been paid for sex? Why?

Or are you trying to reduce the sum of my life's experience to being a stunt cock? Is that the intent behind the attempted insult?

I don't need welfare and I don't need your tax dollars. I could survive on tree bark, roots, ant soup, and dirty water if I had to. Of course I was not stupid enough to have kids I couldn't afford or get addicted to drugs or anything like that.

It's unfortunate the left encourages weakness and stupidity. Self-perpetuating condition.

Bush has kicked the living crap out of a lot of bad guys, and I never have to worry about Osama Bin Laden directing any more terror against me. If he's still alive, he's being guarded by American soldiers in some secret cage. More likely, he's dead as fuck.

Bush has kicked the living crap out of a lot of bad guys, and I never have to worry about Osama Bin Laden directing any more terror against me. If he's still alive, he's being guarded by American soldiers in some secret cage. More likely, he's dead as fuck.[/b][/quote]
semper fi, Buff.

Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out. Right?

Hoo-ha!

semper fi, Buff.

Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out. Right?

Hoo-ha![/b][/quote]
Maybe in Canada, with such a heavy French influence, your motto is "take whatever they throw at you until it's time to surrender," but here in America, we have a history of preferring victory to death.

Maybe Americans don't know who the Canadian Prime Minister is because they are largely ignorant.



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You don't know the president of Angola because you are largely ignorant.

You don't know the president of Angola because you are largely ignorant.[/b][/quote]
Australia doesn't share a border with Angola.

Maybe Americans don't know who the Canadian Prime Minister is because they are largely ignorant.[/b][/quote]
Well that and the Canadian Prime Minister is of limited significance - The Mayor of Chicago, New York or Los Angeles have more stroke, not to mention many Governor's

and for the record the Prime Minister of Canada is Paul Martin

Australia doesn't share a border with Angola.[/b][/quote]
Geography is not the guiding factor.

What is it that you think breeds indifference among many Americans towards world politics?

See if you can tie it together, Joe. What causes Americans to be indifferent towards the politics of Canada and Australians to be indifferent towards the politics of Angola?

I know the answer.

Well that and the Canadian Prime Minister is of limited significance - The Mayor of Chicago, New York or Los Angeles have more stroke, not to mention many Governor's

and for the record the Prime Minister of Canada is Paul Martin[/b][/quote]
What do you mean more stroke? More power?

And be honest Vick, did you have to look up who the new PM is?

Have you checked out the CIA Factbook for Angola yet?

Geography is not the guiding factor.

What is it that you think breeds indifference among many Americans towards world politics?

See if you can tie it together, Joe. What causes Americans to be indifferent towards the politics of Canada and Australians to be indifferent towards the politics of Angola?

I know the answer.[/b][/quote]
Americans are inward looking and generally speaking aren't interested in other countries or other cultures. They believe that other countries don't have anything to offer them.

http://www.msxnet.org/humour/world-a...to-america.png

It has nothing to do with how interesting a nation's culture is.

I guarantee that you don't know one leader from Angolia, Zambia, Botswana, Uruguay, Paraguay, or Puerto Rico. Yet these nations have interesting cultures and histories.

Sorry, better luck next time. Try again.

I smell a LOT of America Envy here!!!!!

I'm not worry we're the world's Superpower, and when you're on top everyone is gunning for you.

Just human nature - like monkeys climbing a tree - when you're the top monkey looking down all you see are faces (some smiling) when you're a monkey climbing up all you see are assholes

EC - no I didn't have to look it up and I'll answer your questions when you respond to

Truthfully all the Canadians I've had the pleasure to meet in person are great people, nice, intelligent

We just have a little rub back and forth about politics
Give us a real common enemy and see how fast that disappears

Plus Canada gave us Cirque :okthumb:

What are we non-Americans envious of exactly?

Chris what do you think would happen if we had a silent.. do notihing.. passive president in office right now???? would he/she be up for relection?

maybe worry about your own PM.. and why he is not making news worthy events... I see the Brits, French, Japanese.. etc.. in the news all of the time.. but never the Canadian PM.. maybe hes slacking??? :awinky:

It has nothing to do with how interesting a nation's culture is.

I guarantee that you don't know one leader from Angolia, Zambia, Botswana, Uruguay, Paraguay, or Puerto Rico. Yet these nations have interesting cultures and histories.

Sorry, better luck next time. Try again.[/b][/quote]
Because you don't ever hear about other countries on the TV?

Vick what did you want me to reply about on that weather issue?
41... 21... close enough I think! B)

We're not talking about sunny & 78 all year round here. lol

Naa... he's new, and hasn't done a whole lot of publicity quite yet but all us Canadians know him very well. He has done a wonderful job as our Minister of Finance under Jean Chretien for years. I'm sure he isn't slacking. :D

You misunderstand our bitching. We (as collective Canadians) generally prefer a [D] president for our neighbour to the south.

What are we non-Americans envious of exactly?[/b][/quote]
Because America is the Top Dog right now
And the best thing going

and America has a lot that needs to be or can be better or improved

and when I'm saying America is the best, we're the top dog in the game - I not saying other countries are bad or meaning to make negative connotations about other countries - there are a lot of great, intelligent, thoughtful and caring people in many counties with viable opinions and ideas, ideals and concerns

and many other countries are great places to live with excellent systems/forms of government

But for me - America is the best

world of difference - see that cold weather effects thinking :P

41 and 21 aren't in the same neighborhood, plus snow and permafrost

But....what does America get from Canada? Right now, we're basically protecting you since you have no real military. Seems like Canada would want to be our good neighbors rather than the other way around. :awinky:[/b][/quote]
we use canada for thier water polo athletes :matey:

Because America is the Top Dog right now
And the best thing going

and America has a lot that needs to be or can be better or improved

and when I'm saying America is the best, we're the top dog in the game - I not saying other countries are bad or meaning to make negative connotations about other countries - there are a lot of great, intelligent, thoughtful and caring people in many counties with viable opinions and ideas, ideals and concerns

and many other countries are great places to live with excellent systems/forms of government

But for me - America is the best[/b][/quote]
But why would that make me jealous?

Why would I want my nation to be "top dog"? Can you explain to me how that would improve my lifestyle or my standard of living?

Do you really think we all want to be like you?

"I smell a LOT of America Envy here!!!!!"


Nope. You could not get me to live in the United States. I prefer the freedom I have here and in England. This thread, interesting as it is, just reinforces my opinion. I am probably older than most who post here and have had the pleasure of talking directly and in person with American house speakers, Governors, congressmen, mayors or your largest cities, and travelled with your secretary of state. In fact I have even spent a couple of hours with one of your presidents and his wife. My opinion has been formed from experience. I have seen your forces in action and seen your battleships let off broadsides and I have seen dead marines killed by stupidity. I don't shoot from the hip when I say that the US has entered a very dangerous time in its history.
This kind of beligerence will do you no good when the shit hits the fan.
Mike, do not make the mistake of confusing advice and observance for whining. That will do you no good. You might do well to listen because no country is an island.

Lots of countries are islands. And England is a craphole.

Actually, that would be Quebec, not Canada


;)

Hey Joe... I think what Vick is saying, among others, is that it just so happens that right now America is the top country -- economically, politically and militarily.

The US, like any other country who found itself in that position, would do whatever it takes to stay there.

As a result, certain actions have a ripple effect and certain other countries find themselves not aligned with the outcome or risks associated with those actions. That is inevitable.

If France was in the position the US is right now, we would all be speaking of them the same way non-Americans tend to speak about the US.



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Lots of countries are islands. And England is a craphole.[/b][/quote]
Which part of England would you say is a craphole and why exactly? Just curious.

I still don't get why I am supposed to be envious.

The part with the tiny, slow, sputtering cars and the nasty weather.

And France does have political clout which is why many Americans do speak of them in the same way. Without that political power, no American would have ever made a French joke.

Actually, that would be Quebec, not Canada


;)[/b][/quote]
You're not a seperatist, you're from Sherbrooke for criss'sakes. :awinky:

where would that be? Haven't seen that part. Could you be more specific? I personally drive and English car that would blow the doors off most American cars. I haven't seen those tiny, slow sputtering English cars but maybe you were in a corner of the country I have never seen.

Oh yeah, I assume you mean nastier than say Buffalo?



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we also use Canada for their growing tips. :o

Are you saying the US has entered an unprecedented period of danger or are you saying that the same old dangers are always out there?

1914 was dangerous. 1929 was dangerous. 1941 was dangerous. 1950 was dangerous. 1962 was dangerous. 1964 was dangerous. 1973 was dangerous.

Are you saying the US has entered an unprecedented period of danger or are you saying that the same old dangers are always out there?

1914 was dangerous. 1929 was dangerous. 1941 was dangerous. 1950 was dangerous. 1962 was dangerous. 1964 was dangerous. 1973 was dangerous.[/b][/quote]
I think this is a way more dangerous time for the United States because the world is smaller and virulent and deadly weapons are available to invisible cells who really hate the US. In fact who would have thought two jetliners would be used as deadly weapons and pound NYC so hard? It is not the time for bravado, it is a time for diplomacy which it seems W is not capable of.

I still don't get why I am supposed to be envious.[/b][/quote]
I am not saying that you are.

Perhaps the general premise is that it is better to belong to the country of power than not.

There is another side to the coin for everything that ppl find wrong with America.

99% of the comments around here are driven by ideology. Very few are truly objective.

And France does have political clout which is why many Americans do speak of them in the same way. Without that political power, no American would have ever made a French joke.[/b][/quote]
Why do they make jokes about Canada? :yowsa:

Are you saying the US has entered an unprecedented period of danger or are you saying that the same old dangers are always out there?

1914 was dangerous. 1929 was dangerous. 1941 was dangerous. 1950 was dangerous. 1962 was dangerous. 1964 was dangerous. 1973 was dangerous.[/b][/quote]

ahhh but then you didn't have embedded journos ;-))))

Or as Saddam called them , "Inteligence Officers"



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I think this is a way more dangerous time for the United States because the world is smaller and virulent and deadly weapons are available to invisible cells who really hate the US. In fact who would have thought two jetliners would be used as deadly weapons and pound NYC so hard? It is not the time for bravado, it is a time for diplomacy which it seems W is not capable of.[/b][/quote]
It is a dangerous time because of the reasons you state. I think most ppl would agree with that.

Was the US bravado before 9-11 or just after GWB took office?

It seems that the danger you speak of is there either way.

Now it becomes a debate as to the approach. I do not think either side has a patent on the "right way".