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BIW 12-04-2003 06:29 AM

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Originally posted by JR+Dec 4 2003, 09:05 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (JR @ Dec 4 2003, 09:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--BIW@Dec 3 2003, 10:47 PM

AGREE
This is the only reason I could not contemplate living in the States...

:(

attack cops much?[/b][/quote]
I just can’t think of one way to justify six civil servants clubbing a human being to death... You?

Winetalk.com 12-04-2003 06:41 AM

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Originally posted by Billy@Dec 3 2003, 11:26 PM
Simple rule I have always followed.

If the bad guy uses his hands, I use a stick / or pepper spray

If the bad guy uses a knife I use a gun.

I do not get paid to be beat or killed.

Still cannot believe the cornor ruled it a homicide

..and I glad you do...
I'd rather see you here than visit you at NO fancy cemetery

Winetalk.com 12-04-2003 06:43 AM

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Originally posted by BIW+Dec 4 2003, 06:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BIW @ Dec 4 2003, 06:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by -JR@Dec 4 2003, 09:05 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--BIW
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@Dec 3 2003, 10:47 PM

AGREE
This is the only reason I could not contemplate living in the States...

:(


attack cops much?

I just can’t think of one way to justify six civil servants clubbing a human being to death... You?[/b][/quote]
good point,
next time you attempted to get raped by PCP high 350 pounder,
ask police to let him finish first before removing him off your butt
;-)))

FATPad 12-04-2003 06:43 AM

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Originally posted by BIW+Dec 4 2003, 03:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BIW @ Dec 4 2003, 03:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by -JR@Dec 4 2003, 09:05 AM
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@Dec 3 2003, 10:47 PM

AGREE
This is the only reason I could not contemplate living in the States...

:(


attack cops much?

I just can’t think of one way to justify six civil servants clubbing a human being to death... You?[/b][/quote]
That's okay. I can't justify people getting drugged up and attacking cops.

But I forget, this is America, and nothing you do is your own fault.

Have a bad heart, get drugged up, and attack cops. When you force the cops to beat you and you die because of your own stupidity, it won't be your fault. We'll blame the cops.

BIW 12-04-2003 07:01 AM

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Originally posted by FATPad+Dec 4 2003, 12:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (FATPad @ Dec 4 2003, 12:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by -BIW@Dec 4 2003, 03:37 AM
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Originally posted by -JR@Dec 4 2003, 09:05 AM
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@Dec 3 2003, 10:47 PM

AGREE
This is the only reason I could not contemplate living in the States...

:(


attack cops much?


I just can’t think of one way to justify six civil servants clubbing a human being to death... You?

That's okay. I can't justify people getting drugged up and attacking cops.

But I forget, this is America, and nothing you do is your own fault.

Have a bad heart, get drugged up, and attack cops. When you force the cops to beat you and you die because of your own stupidity, it won't be your fault. We'll blame the cops.[/b][/quote]
Was he raping someone?.. I didn't hear that..

Crime: Jaywalking whilst high
Sentence: A severe gang-clubbing to death (That'll teach him!!!)

That sounds civilized!!!

Winetalk.com 12-04-2003 07:06 AM

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Originally posted by BIW@Dec 4 2003, 07:09 AM

Was he raping someone?.. I didn't hear that..


no, he didn't...he ONLY attacked the police with deadly weapon...

FATPad 12-04-2003 07:10 AM

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Originally posted by BIW@Dec 4 2003, 04:09 AM
Was he raping someone?.. I didn't hear that..

Crime: Jaywalking whilst high
Sentence: A severe gang-clubbing to death (That'll teach him!!!)

That sounds civilized!!!

When the revolution occurs, I'm hoping Diamond Jim reallocates reality so everyone gets enough.

BIW 12-04-2003 07:14 AM

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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Dec 4 2003, 01:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Dec 4 2003, 01:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--BIW@Dec 4 2003, 07:09 AM

Was he raping someone?.. I didn't hear that..


no, he didn't...he ONLY attacked the police with deadly weapon...[/b][/quote]
What weapon?.. I heard no mention of a weapon on the BBC or on CNN

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/12/01/b...ting.videotape/

Torone 12-04-2003 07:15 AM

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Originally posted by Peaches+Dec 3 2003, 12:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peaches @ Dec 3 2003, 12:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--KRL@Dec 3 2003, 02:18 PM
Well I see your point to an extent Peaches. However, once they had the guy contained, which certainly they did with 6 cops there, shouldn't there be a point in time where you have to say, ok he threw a punch, but it's clear he's not trying to take a cop's life, and is just all messed up on drugs, and now the level of intensity should scale down a bit and do something simple like throw a net over the guy and subdue him that way instead of just beating the shit out of him when they know guys on PCP don't respond to getting the shit beat out of them?
Yeah, I admit it's a tough call on what to do once the threat is semi-contained. And it's one that I hope I NEVER have to make.[/b][/quote]
If KRL had seen the full unedited video, he would know that the cops DID stop hitting the guy as soon as they had him cuffed. Further he would know that they were NOT the ones cursing and tossing racial epithets. They were NOT the agressors.

BTW, for those who don't know, PCP (angeldust) is meant to be deadly...it was meant to be used to put animals down.

And just for the record, the last guy who charged me when I was carrying a gun is pushing up daisies, as is the one who knifed me...



Last edited by Torone at Dec 4 2003, 06:38 AM

BIW 12-04-2003 07:29 AM

It should’ve happened like this:

Two cops roll up.. swift whack to back of the knee for fatso.. fatso falls.. one cop jumps on him.. other cop handcuffs him.. JAIL

Not.. Six cops roll up.. Gangbang clubbing and kicking fest.. DEATH

End of story...

wig 12-04-2003 07:34 AM

If one blow to the back of the knee would have worked, they would not have continued to hit him.

You make it out to be a lot easier than it is.

eatapeach 12-04-2003 10:37 AM

"Nathaniel Jones, the victim, had passed out in the parking lot of a White Castle restaurant, doing no physical harm to anyone.

Not wanting a man lying on its property, and not employing private guards, the restaurant called the police. The police roused him and an unarmed Jones came up swinging hard. He wasn't complying – the greatest sin in the eyes of the state."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/cincin...ti-beating.html

Winetalk.com 12-04-2003 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by eatapeach@Dec 4 2003, 10:45 AM
"Nathaniel Jones, the victim, had passed out in the parking lot of a White Castle restaurant, doing no physical harm to anyone.

Not wanting a man lying on its property, and not employing private guards, the restaurant called the police. The police roused him and an unarmed Jones came up swinging hard. He wasn't complying – the greatest sin in the eyes of the state."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/cincin...ti-beating.html

please post your address, so I can direst all junkies to your backyard...

PornoDoggy 12-04-2003 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by BIW@Dec 4 2003, 07:37 AM
It should’ve happened like this:

Two cops roll up.. swift whack to back of the knee for fatso.. fatso falls.. one cop jumps on him.. other cop handcuffs him.. JAIL

Not.. Six cops roll up.. Gangbang clubbing and kicking fest.. DEATH

End of story...

Take PCP out of the incident and that might have worked. Once it is in the body of the person they are attempting to apprehend, then "all bets are off" as to what kind of force needs to be applied.

Do the Cinnci cops have a tendency to get overly violent against minorities? It's very possible. Should this case be used as an example of that? Not only no, but HELL no.

KRL 12-04-2003 12:00 PM

Look, let's cut the crap and BS here. Many of us know cops, and know they go into the job knowing the risks, and they love the rush they get off of getting to play fucking God with people. Every cop I've talked to says chases and pursuits are like having sex to them. It gives them a big rush. Same thing when they get to pull out the clubs and play planet of the apes on black folks and hispanics.

Who's kidding who here. The cops overdoing it even though its clear they weren't being overly vicious by hitting him on the head or anything is what caused this guy to die that day.

He was just a fuckup out on someone's property that should have been picked up by specialized law enforcement people with the tools and training to handle people on PCP.

Its just not cool that no matter what the situation unless there is direct gun fire and the like, that 6 cops need to pounce on one guy to make him do what they say.

If we let this stuff continue where does it end?

I witnessed a bunch of cops beat the living hell out of a bum in downtown LA years ago. The guy was drunk and kicked over a trash can and the trash spilled onto the street. He was mouthing off to the cop that pulled over and tossed a bottle on the ground that smashed. Next thing you know there are a pack of cops on this poor old tard with their nightsticks out pounding this guy even though he had stopped moving. Everyone who was watching figured the guy was dead because we all got the hell out of there fast because the cops turned and look to see who was witnessing it and had looks in their eyes like get the fuck out of here, this never happened.

I'll never forget that incident.


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