Are YOU saying that Arabs claim that religion plays no role in the Palestinian/Arab side of conflict? Islam, Islamic beliefs and holy sites in the area play no role?



Last edited by JR at Nov 29 2003, 03:39 PM

I categorically reject the idea that peace comes through understanding and tollerence... and that we can all "just get along" if we would show some patience and understing. It has never been true in history.

The desire for peace is ALWAYS a weakness exploited by those who hunger for power, control and respect. History is littered with the ruins of civilizations and empires who disarmed themselves believing this not to be true.

I do believe i QUOTED someone else, so NO, I am not saying anything.

And besides, how could I speak for Arabs?

I dont even KNOW any Arabs.

Are you saying it DOES?

Please refernce the religious document they use to back up their argument if so.

I do believe i QUOTED someone else, so NO, I am not saying anything.

And besides, how could I speak for Arabs?

I dont even KNOW any Arabs.

Are you saying it DOES?

Please refernce the religious document they use to back up their argument if so.[/b][/quote]
are you just throwing out random inflamatory quotes with no purpose?

are you drunk?

And this is what it ALWAYS comes to.

Are you drunk?

Why dont you pretend I am and go on with your day.

if it "always" comes to that in your opinion, then you would have to admit that the single consistent commonality to those remarks is you.

maybe it "always" comes to that because you start making no sense, while claiming you do... and people are at a loss for a reasonable explaination that does not involve substance abuse or alcoholism since you seem to be capable of making sense most of the time.

No, I think people use that line instead of addressing my questions.

Now I am not making sense? Youre the one claiming me quoting an essay is 'inflammatory.' and 'doesnt make any sense.'

My statements in this have been fairly simple, mostly quotes anyhow, sorry its hard for you to keep up.

Why dont you just stop refrsshing the thread then.

Im not here to argue with anyone, simply educating myself on this conflict, which seems to have been going on now for a very long time.

Youd much rather take stabs at me rather than have a discussion.

Please just call me an 'idiot' and run along.

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Looks like the Brits were making a few deals to try and stir shit up a few years back

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'By the early years of the 20th century, Palestine was becoming a trouble spot of competing territorial claims and political interests. The Ottoman Empire was weakening, and European powers were entrenching their grip on areas in the eastern Mediterranean, including Palestine. During 1915-16, as World War I was underway, the British High Commissioner in Egypt, Sir Henry McMahon, secretly corresponded with Husayn ibn `Ali, the patriarch of the Hashemite family and Ottoman governor of Mecca and Medina. McMahon convinced Husayn to lead an Arab revolt against the Ottoman Empire, which was aligned with Germany against Britain and France in the war. McMahon promised that if the Arabs supported Britain in the war, the British government would support the establishment of an independent Arab state under Hashemite rule in the Arab provinces of the Ottoman Empire, including Palestine. The Arab revolt, led by T. E. Lawrence ("Lawrence of Arabia") and Husayn's son Faysal, was successful in defeating the Ottomans, and Britain took control over much of this area during World War I.

But Britain made other promises during the war that conflicted with the Husayn-McMahon understandings. In 1917, the British Foreign Minister, Lord Arthur Balfour, issued a declaration (the Balfour Declaration) announcing his government's support for the establishment of "a Jewish national home in Palestine." A third promise, in the form of a secret agreement, was a deal that Britain and France struck between themselves to carve up the Arab provinces of the Ottoman Empire and divide control of the region.'

http://www.merip.org/palestine-israel_prim...-isr-prime.html

i apologize for not knowing you were so sensitive. my bad.

you posted a quote presumably to make a point. now you are saying you didn't and you just posted a seemingly relevent quote on the exact topic we were discussing which coincidentally was timed in a way that it could be mistaken as a rebuttle to the assertion that Arabs/Islam/Palestinians have religious motivations as well.

my bad. i thought you were trying to make a point. i guess i overestimated you.

haha. funny i asked if you were drunk. i had no idea.

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Last edited by cherrylula at Nov 29 2003, 04:46 PM

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Naow worries mate.

Thanks for the lesson, but I'm forgetting nothing. The reason I didn't mention all that gibberish is because frankly I don't give a shit about it. We're all humans on this planet, and as such should have the capacity to learn from each other..... my point about how Canada & the US, although have a history that in some spots is checkered with war, have developed over time a bond that is second to none. I mentioned it because it is a thing, a concept, that other countries should look to as an example.

When it comes down to it, you can either continue fighting endlessly until the region you're in is a 1000 mile wide bowl of smoking glass, or you can put aside all the so-called *reasons* couched in religion and start to actually live again. And before anyone spouts that I'm being unrealistic, you need to realize that I'm asking for nothing, I'm expecting nothing. I know as well as the next guy that nothing is going to change in that region, I'm merely suggesting that there is a better way.


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I eat some and I will literally be pissing out of my ass within the hour. Thanks for the concern though.[/b][/quote]
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Naow worries mate.[/b][/quote]
That's alright I changed mine again. Otherwise it's hard to distinguish my posts from yours.
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