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Bex 09-17-2003 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by Opti+Sep 17 2003, 12:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Opti @ Sep 17 2003, 12:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Nickatilynx@Sep 18 2003, 06:11 AM
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Heh ... I remember a few years ago when people were looking to exchange billing databases at a show, and straight up bill the people a second time. It was in Vegas. I was pretty shocked to hear people talking about that shit. Just outright theft.

Toolz, I think we were gambling or something when we overheard that one. You remember?


Classic post!!!!!

ahahahahahahahahhahahahaha love the irony. :-)))))

my mind runs wild imagining which bit might be the ironic part.. :ph34r:[/b][/quote]
I agree ... not sure about any irony. LOL

Opti 09-17-2003 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by Bex+Sep 18 2003, 06:41 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bex @ Sep 18 2003, 06:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by -Opti@Sep 17 2003, 12:32 PM
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@Sep 18 2003, 06:11 AM
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Heh ... I remember a few years ago when people were looking to exchange billing databases at a show, and straight up bill the people a second time. It was in Vegas. I was pretty shocked to hear people talking about that shit. Just outright theft.

Toolz, I think we were gambling or something when we overheard that one. You remember?


Classic post!!!!!

ahahahahahahahahhahahahaha love the irony. :-)))))


my mind runs wild imagining which bit might be the ironic part.. :ph34r:

I agree ... not sure about any irony. LOL[/b][/quote]
I don't know either.. but I reckon it's prolly a question best left unanswered if my intuition is anything to go by ;-))



Last edited by Opti at Sep 18 2003, 06:47 AM

Nickatilynx 09-17-2003 04:44 PM

Opti,Bex,

Sorry about that, I guess I have a twisted mind. ;-)))

I was just reading it as follows:

"swapping databases" = very immoral.
"gambling" = is considered by many very immoral and a vice.

So I thought it sounded a bit like...
"Remember when we were planning to rob that bank and over heard those scumbags talking about about whacking those guys"

or

"When I hacked that guys web site and found his emails planning rthat robbery"

ahhhhh fuck it....never mind...I guess its just me.

I'm easily amused.

I'm a crossbill away from becoming fully Kremened beyond all belief.

;-)))

Opti 09-17-2003 04:54 PM

Oh, my intuition was wrong :( yeah that's Ironic..

Should have left it to the imagination Like I suggested! What I had in mind was a much more interesting scenario! >:)) (sorry Toolz :P )

Nickatilynx 09-17-2003 05:00 PM

Ok...

(never let the truth get in the way of a good story)

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Heh ... I remember a few years ago when people were looking to exchange billing databases at a show, and straight up bill the people a second time. It was in Vegas. I was pretty shocked to hear people talking about that shit. Just outright theft.

Toolz, I think we were gambling or something when we overheard that one. You remember?


No shit!!

I was on the next table playing blackjack,talking about exchanging databases!!

(Happier now?)

;-))))

Opti 09-17-2003 05:13 PM

Nah.. I feel a let down.... the reality just couldn't cut it with the fantasy... but I'm almost over it now. ;-))

Toolz 09-17-2003 05:14 PM

Nick,

The way Bex and I gamble can be more akin to "Helping pay for the toliets in the hotel" Though the Venetian may seem like a big heartless corporation if we didn't stop in and donate money to them there'd be no where to expell all the free booze they give you, it's a vicious circle.

Nickatilynx 09-17-2003 05:27 PM

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The way Bex and I gamble can be more akin to "Helping pay for the toliets in the hotel" Though the Venetian may seem like a big heartless corporation if we didn't stop in and donate money to them there'd be no where to expell all the free booze they give you, it's a vicious circle.

ahahahahahaha sounds the same as me.
I consider it tipping on a grand scale. ;-))

Now back to your original thread....and not wishing to be the pot calling out the kettle,but

I reckon its gotta be Seth.

but Mike is right...there are so many.

Dravyk 09-17-2003 06:07 PM

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What color is beastie sites, and under 18 non nude teen sites? Would that Carbondale? Chesapeake? Dover Grey? Greymohr? Greystone?
The first would be spotted or stripes, silly!

cj 09-17-2003 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by Mike AI+Sep 17 2003, 02:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Sep 17 2003, 02:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--voodooman@Sep 17 2003, 01:59 PM
Thats easy.

Seth.


Don't forget your boss! :awinky:[/b][/quote]
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA

:wnw: :wnw: :wnw:

that would be my choice!!



cresent
seth
closely followed by joe

slavdogg 09-17-2003 07:31 PM

I would put John Zuccarini on this list as well

wig 09-17-2003 08:24 PM

don't forget Ken Taves!

nlphoto 09-17-2003 08:37 PM

This abuse of my name is so cruel... :yowsa:

*KK* 09-17-2003 09:01 PM

I would guess that not one of the really big ones has been mentioned, aside from Crescent and Taves.

Dravyk 09-17-2003 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by *KK*@Sep 17 2003, 08:09 PM
I would guess that not one of the really big ones has been mentioned, aside from Crescent and Taves.
Yep, and, as we know, they probably won't be as long as they're still active since most folks are savvy enough to not burn bridges.

Will be interesting to see in three years time what names will be added to the list, as well as who will still be around to add them.

Toolz 09-17-2003 10:44 PM

Drav,

I'm sure we'll all still have PC's in three years time, what we're doing with them.... that'll be another story.

BradShaw 09-17-2003 10:46 PM

Biggest scammers in the biz over the past IMHO include CE, Aussies (including about everyone Cj has ever worked for), Crescent, Babenet, and many more.

Surpised several of these have not been mentioned yet.

Dravyk 09-17-2003 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by Toolz@Sep 17 2003, 09:52 PM
I'm sure we'll all still have PC's in three years time, what we're doing with them.... that'll be another story.
Toolz, probably watching on our wall plasma screens and switching from the web to TV and back.

Timon 09-17-2003 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by Dravyk@Sep 17 2003, 10:08 PM

Toolz, probably watching on our wall plasma screens and switching from the web to TV and back.

Why do we need to wait 3 years to do that??

BradShaw 09-18-2003 12:24 AM

Charlo is also a scammer IMHO.

http://www.gamblingmagazine.com/articles/s.../starnet357.htm

Hell Puppy 09-18-2003 12:34 AM

Let us not forget Xpics...

IMO they, along with Crescent, are probably two of the companies whose actions are most responsible for the billing climate we're in today.

During the Xpics hay day newbies were flooding the net, and it was like shooting fish in a barrel to get them to cough up a credit card number for "free" access to porn. Xpics had slick ads, slick tours and once they had that credit card number they'd slam that bad boy every month until you cancelled the card itself in most cases.

I doubt they were the first to shave, but they definitely popularized it! What did they top out at? 20 cents per click? I dont know what their real formula was, but I do know that at the time there was no other banner or ad that you could put in their place that could make more money consistently. This despite the shave. The checks were large and they showed up every week.

And there-in pretty much the entire industry's human nature is exposed. Virtually everyone sent traffic to Xpics in those days, most continued to do so even after it was obvious what was going on. Human nature makes it tough to cut your own income by say 50% to pull their ads and replace them with someone more honest.

It was easy to rationalize. It wasn't like spam or beastiality or anything like that because the webmaster drew no heat. All they had to do was keep cashing those checks that showed up every week like clockwork. Easy to tell yourself, hey, i'm just selling them traffic, none of my business what they do with it!

cj 09-18-2003 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by BradShaw@Sep 17 2003, 09:54 PM
Biggest scammers in the biz over the past IMHO include CE, Aussies (including about everyone Cj has ever worked for), Crescent, Babenet, and many more.

Surpised several of these have not been mentioned yet.

only one of the 2 aussies i've worked for was a 'scammer', and that lasted about as long as your marriage will ... good to see you are paying attention ... I didn't realize you cared! :yowsa:

being more successful than you doesn't make someone a scammer - especially considering the things you do these days are the same as the things the aussies did years ago ...

there's plenty of things for you to attack *me* with brad, no need to bring other people into it that you know nothing about!! :okthumb:

Rolo 09-18-2003 03:22 AM

"Behind every great fortune there is a crime. " - Honore de Balzac

Dravyk 09-18-2003 04:46 AM

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Originally posted by Timon@Sep 17 2003, 10:49 PM
Why do we need to wait 3 years to do that??
I like you too much, Timon, so don't make me suddenly hate you! Just don't say what I think you're going to say! :P

Opti 09-18-2003 07:58 AM

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Originally posted by BradShaw@Sep 18 2003, 02:32 PM
Charlo is also a scammer IMHO.

http://www.gamblingmagazine.com/articles/s.../starnet357.htm

Brad is also a scammer IMHO..

But I have no proof or any first hand knowledge... but i heard someone else say it once... and also he was too small time to bother mentioning in this thread I thought...


What did this guy do... take you for $7.50 Brad? maybe apply for a job writing advice columns for Ynot when you grow up..

(Did I see people posting somewhere that Brad wasn't going to be challenging for the resident fool anymore??)

Bex 09-18-2003 08:39 AM

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Originally posted by Toolz@Sep 17 2003, 01:22 PM
Nick,

The way Bex and I gamble can be more akin to "Helping pay for the toliets in the hotel" Though the Venetian may seem like a big heartless corporation if we didn't stop in and donate money to them there'd be no where to expell all the free booze they give you, it's a vicious circle.

Couldn't have put it better myself!

But it is is still damn fun. :rokk:

Shok 09-18-2003 09:27 AM

I thought this thread was going to be about custom choppers :angry:



Last edited by Shok at Sep 18 2003, 06:06 AM

VooMan 09-18-2003 09:43 AM

Nah Shok, that's on the Discovery Channel... :okthumb:

Winetalk.com 09-19-2003 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Sep 17 2003, 03:08 PM
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There is still a code of honor amoung most theives

Thank you ;-))

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Oh and Nick, I like you. I think you are one of the funnier, wittier people I know from the biz.... a lot like JoeE in many ways in my mind.

One thing this industry has given me, and I am not sure if its a good or bad thing is the ability to seperate personal and business views of people....

I like you too, Mike and I admire the way you run your business and conduct yourself.

For a sanctamonious prig you have done very well ;-)))

Maybe we could do an Oprano Crossfire show sometime with you on the right,Serge in the middle,and me in Bolivia ;-)))

fuck you, nicholas!!!!

I haven,t scammed ANYONE, even you you cum suckin scumbag!

if I seem to be too harsh,
its just a key board, you smelly prick!

Nickatilynx 09-19-2003 09:18 AM

ahahahahahahahaha

See, CJ!!! ;)

Like water off a ducks ass!!!


:D

The "smelly prick" bit was a tad harsh though!

:nyanya:



Last edited by Nickatilynx at Sep 19 2003, 05:30 AM

Winetalk.com 09-20-2003 03:58 AM

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Originally posted by Nickatilynx@Sep 19 2003, 08:26 AM


The "smelly prick" bit was a tad harsh though!

:nyanya:

I agree...on the surface, it looks like I know you more than I really do!

for the record:
I don,t know Nick THAT up close abd personal!!!!!

...and I NEVER even seen his dick!!!!! I have witnesses!!!!!!


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