" about to say something moronic" title ?

hehehe. I just saw that and had to laugh :agrin: :agrin:

Name a top ten player who is a woman .........................

Tricky now cj has left.
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left what?! am i no longer counted because i don't run someone else's program anymore? I've still got my own business which has remained successful and profitable for 4 years ... nick, I'm going to enjoy making you eat your words.

;-)


>>Are you a woman working for a large company and do you feel that being a woman has advantages or disadvantages?

I ran sexhit for 2 years. The formula that raised this business to one of the largest in the industry was a smart team, clever men and clever women. A female personality to break the ice in the industry, who also happens to be able to form a sentence related to business.

>>Or are you a business owner who prefers to hire women and why? OR are you a business owner who doesn’t care what the gender is as long as the job gets done.

I hire whoever will get the work done, usually in this technology industry its men - simply because there are so few women working with computers. I do know that all the women I've hired have either been loyal for a long time, or turned into bitchy little cows who i had to throw out on their ass. About the same with the men really ;-)

>>OR are you a business owner who would never put a woman in a position of power?

Women with power is dangerous. But then, so is a man with an ego. My employers and business partners over the years have never had a problem with putting me in a position of power, but then again, they really didn't have a choice ;-)

Now, as for the top 10 players.
I'm going to do something a little different and add some of the top X companies who have gotten where they are LARGELY due to their female leadership, management or marketing. A player doesn't have to be the boss, or even the owner of the bank account. A player is someone who has influence and can get shit done. Women ROCK in this area.

* WEG - How many webmasters even know jordan? There's no doubt he's the brilliance and brains behind the company ... but who makes shit happen? Shokk & Rrred, a kickass team!!! I'm always crossing paths with webmasters who work with Rrred, and have never heard a negative ... and there's no doubt .. she does BIG BUSINESS.

* Insite Adult - Where would John be without Samantha? This is ONE amazing lady, chat for 5 minutes and MOST of you will realize .... YOU KNOW NOTHING.

* Cashquest, Flynt Digital - Ken's too busy smoozing with the WEG staff taking care of OTHER business, & I bet Amber does half of his work!! Amber is an industry legend - she's brought success to employers AND holds her own ground with her own projects.

* KK - shutup for a minute serge. Kimmy has guided webmaster minds towards her products for 5 years. She's been involved in more controversy and bashing than any of us and still manages to get shit done. KK was the sole reason that most companies felt that all they needed was a chick up front and they would be as successful.

*Lee Noga - Always doing whatever the hell she wants and still a leader. If you want influence, here it is!

* PK - nuff said really. proved she's the top chick in the biz over and over.

Add to the influence list Fay Sharp, Jennifer at AVN, snoops, tweet & sandra ... i'm going to forget someone so i'll stop.

The money may not be in our names boys, but you know we control it!

This industry has taken so many trends towards employing women. The last few years has seen every program stick a fake chick's name at the front 'brandy, candy, blondie, blondie 2 3 4 & 5, blondy (with a y), honey, cutie pie' etc etc. I especially love these wonderful 'ladies' who email me and say 'hey, seeing we are both women, can you help me with some traffic?' ... um, no i can't. fuck off and earn your place for yourself and stop pulling the 'i'm so pathetic' card.

the women who i've named above know how to play the game. But it will be decades before women are simply 'accepted without question' into management roles.

I agree with CJ, Amber and so many other participants in this thread. The talent pool has enlarged, the needs of companies are changing and we are finding balance rewarding balance between genders. I wish brick and mortar was as open as we, and they are still decades behind as finding harmony amongst the sexes.

Its nice to see big companies hiring gay ppl has consultants or to run their gay programs.

Aly from Python is another player based on CJ's definition. Damn, Aly and I the only dykes in the biz? LOL..she is fabulous!

But given the nbr of webmasters in the biz, our list of accomplished females is still quite small. Seems most the ppl we named have been in the business since the beginning somewhat. Anyone notice this?

From sheer maturation of this biz you would think 100 more leaders would be born and us old timers could sit back and let them lead the way.

Maybe its a control thing, and we are like Supreme court Judicial Judges, only way out of office is to die :-)

How come our list of female leaders is not x5 the size. The response we just gave would have been the same names if this year was 1998, here is 2002 and its the same witches :-)

The things that make you ponder...:-)



Last edited by LeeNoga at Nov 6 2002, 03:01 PM

>>Aly from Python is another player based on CJ's definition. Damn, Aly and the only dykes in the biz? LOL..she is fabulous!
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SHIT
i knew i would forget someone really important ;-(
Sorry Aly, but you know you'll always have a place in my top 10 list ;-)

>>Maybe its a control thing, and we are like Supreme court Judicial Judges, only way out of office is to die :-)
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LMFAO!!!!!
Lee, this is too true ... why are there no new women making it? Well, you've got pretty big shoes to fill if you try to get into the business right now - and as I said above, the volume of new women entering the business is mostly the product of a male concept that 'tits bring business'.

How about another question

Do the women in business end up with more enemies than men?
and
How many of the industry's leading women actually work TOGETHER? ever?

Excellent thoughts, CJ!! And thank you for your kind words.

No doubt, Lee...I think that there are not a lot of new men making it in this biz either because it's not like the old days - it takes a lot more to be trusted as being a viable player - male or female really. But Lee, you're a dyke? Who knew?!!
:rolleyes:

CJ, I'll try and tackle your questions:

- Do the women in business end up with more enemies than men?

Personally speaking, I don't think so. I try to fly below the radar and like to keep a low profile. But at the shows, I do think women webmasters have to be more careful about how they present themselves than men do. I'll equate it to this...I view the shows much like a high school reunion, I get to reconnect with friends that I haven't seen in months, and some that I haven't seen in years, and the shows are wonderful like that – plus meet new people and get tons of work done. But much like high school, I think we women are judged by how sloppy drunk we get with our peers compared to the men who are considered funny when they get trashed, stumble around and make asses of themselves. The men go back to work after the show and their drunken mess is laughed off...we women who might get too loose go back to work after the shows with a 'reputation'...which is too funny considering our business is PORN. But you see where I'm going with this. Regarding enemies; I don't think I have any in the business...but of course, it's never too late. :)

- How many of the industry's leading women actually work TOGETHER? ever?

This is a much more difficult question. I know all of the women mentioned, but don't directly work with each of them. Why? I'm really not sure...maybe it's because we are all so damn busy that we don't have time to track each other down (only half teasing! ;>). I have for a while and still do work with Samantha. I don't get an opportunity to work directly with RRRED very much but that's only because Ken's always taking up her time! :P But our companies certainly work together. Kimmy and I have on and off worked together on various projects; she's given me a lot of great ideas and I have mucho respect for her. Lee Noga and I have collaborated on various projects over the years but haven't "worked together" in a while (again, I think it's mainly been due to time constraints). PK and I have done and continue to do some business together. I work with Python for sure, but Aly isn't my contact there (I don't know her that well actually but have always admired the way she presents herself both on the net and in person!) and CJ – what's our deal woman?! How come we haven't done anything together?? Now seems like a great time to start. Seriously, hit me up in ICQ, email or phone 800-483-3161 - let's get some shiznit going! :)



Last edited by Ambergirl at Nov 6 2002, 07:38 PM

Dianna, This is one of the most important points your thread has raised ... if men get drunk and have fun, its COOL and they are a PLAYAH. If we remove our shirts in public we are mistaken for content

*scoff*

:P

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But at the shows, I do think women webmasters have to be more careful about how they present themselves than men do. I'll equate it to this...I view the shows much like a high school reunion, I get to reconnect with friends that I haven't seen in months, and some that I haven't seen in years, and the shows are wonderful like that – plus meet new people and get tons of work done. But much like high school, I think we women are judged by how sloppy drunk we get with our peers compared to the men who are considered funny when they get trashed, stumble around and make asses of themselves. The men go back to work after the show and their drunken mess is laughed off...we women who might get too loose go back to work after the shows with a 'reputation'...which is too funny considering our business is PORN.

Or are you a business owner who prefers to hire women and why?
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I'm just glad Nick wasn't a smartass and said, "We hired Anthony, does that count?"

Bastard. He might not have said it, but I know he was thinking it!

:D

What do you mean?.. A rep like being the most shaggable webmistress of 2001? :inlove:

;-)

piss off shithead!!! ;-))))

:yowsa:

CJ I agree and have seen this happen too many times. Having been content myself once and also a business owner, it’s a hard divide.

Lady Law has been pushing me to get into the porn king circle a while. I refrained because I thought it was all drugs, parties and bullshit. If the success of my business relies on that, I’ll live in a tent. The quality of my life is far more important.

I’ll party with the best of them and I know how to have fun. I wasn’t really looking forward to the show in Florida August because I felt like I was preparing myself for war. Everyone I talked to told me about the parties and the stuff going on. Some showed me old pictures. It’s no secret that I’ve got a streak of feminism running through me. I know it’s all in good fun but come on! I decided that I was going to form my own strategy. My first night dinner with Lady Law. I went home at 11PM. After leaving her and Serge (Serge came in later after MikeAI’s bachelor party!) I mingled a little. I went home. Each day I woke up early and was at the show by 9AM.

I never went to one party but I met a ton of people and had some great meetings. It didn’t take me long to figure out who the real players were. I was happy to learn that there was an inner circle of professional, down to earth and intelligent men in the industry. I’m glad because I don’t think I’d fit into anything else.

I’m not sure if I’ll make it to Vegas but when the show comes back to Florida I think we should arrange a ladies party and set criteria for the men who attend. We’ll get cute guys with g-strings serving us. Foot massages, a private pleasure area for ladies who want to experience a truly trained male/female and we’ll show these boys how to really have fun.

Who’s going to be on the committee?

Anthony I don't think of you as a woman.

I think of you as my beeeeeeyaaaatch!!!! :nyanya: :nyanya: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :yowsa:

You're begining to sound even more complex nickie!

Now be a good boy and come sit on mama's lap!

I think that CJ covered it very well........ there is not a lot to add.

My position is different than most because I am a 'little more mature, and have ran my own businesses for many many years. Dave and I have been partners in various enterprises for almost 15 years. He never gets in my way.... ahahahaha - so we get along just fine.

I do think that the honest attitude of many of the male employers is divided. There are still many chevonists out there (who would never admit it) and there are really some good guys who recogonize the unique abilities of women, and use those abilities to their advantage. In most cases, when doing a show, the companies who have women in charge of the planning and following through of the project, are much more prepared in the long run. Women are excellent on the follow- through. As I have said before.... CJ is a prime example of the art of 'being prepared.

Sharpie, last I heard JohnIP offered you A LOT to take pictures of "your position"
;-)))

why did you refuse???
;-))

If I am going to turn'content...... I will do it for http://www.spankyscontent.com

:inlove: