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Jim_Gunn 03-10-2009 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 824776)
Yes, this is the text from 28 CFR 75.2 Maintenance of Records..

I have highlighted, italicized and underlined the portion referring to keeping a copy of the content...

(1) The legal name and date of birth of each performer, obtained by the producer's examination of a picture identification card prior to production of the depiction. For any performer portrayed in a depiction of an actual human being engaged in actual sexually explicit conduct (except lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person) made after July 3, 1995, or of an actual human being engaged in simulated sexually explicit conduct or in actual sexually explicit conduct limited to lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person made after March 18, 2009, the records shall also include a legible hard copy or legible digitally scanned or other electronic copy of a hard copy of the identification document examined and, if that document does not contain a recent and recognizable picture of the performer, a legible hard copy of a picture identification card. For any performer portrayed in a depiction of an actual human being engaged in actual sexually explicit conduct (except lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person) made after June 23, 2005, or of an actual human being engaged in simulated sexually explicit conduct or in actual sexually explicit conduct limited to lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person made after March 18, 2009, the records shall include a copy of the depiction, and, where the depiction is published on an Internet computer site or service, a copy of any URL associated with the depiction. If no URL is associated with the depiction, the records shall include another uniquely identifying reference associated with the location of the depiction on the Internet. For any performer in a depiction performed live on the Internet, the records shall include a copy of the depiction with running-time sufficient to identify the performer in the depiction and to associate the performer with the records needed to confirm his or her age.

Michael

www.AdultBizLaw.com
www.2257Safe.com

Thanks for the clarification. I am considering all my options for 3rd party record keeping, hopefully I will be able to come to a decision after the Phoenix Forum, where I suspect that there will be more 3rd party record keeping solutions.

pornlaw 03-10-2009 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 824779)
Thanks for the clarification. I am considering all my options for 3rd party record keeping, hopefully I will be able to come to a decision after the Phoenix Forum, where I suspect that there will be more 3rd party record keeping solutions.

I suspect there will be. I know of 1 other than will be our direct online competition and 1 that might be, but is not online. However, I have not seen anything from any of the other potential competitors.

If you know of others I would be interested in even talking to them about licensing our software to them...

I really do think we are ahead of most of them since the we are using software that has been in use since 2005. I would think Summer XBiz is where most will come into play.

Michael

www.AdultBizLaw.com
www.2257Safe.com

Hell Puppy 03-11-2009 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 824778)
I wanted to share some good news...

Here are our compression test results from Dan...

Here are some very initial results taking a couple .mpg videos and turning them into Flash Video files.


ORIGINAL FILE #1
Pixel Size: 352x288
File Size: 49.2 MB
Run time: 6:00 (6 minutes)


COMPRESSION SCHEME#1 RESULTS ON FILE #1
Description: No pixel size reduction
Pixel Size: 352x288
File Size: 8.5 MB
Compression Quality: MEDIUM
File size reduced by: 82.73%
Approximate amount of minutes 5GB will store at this rate: 60 HOURS

It looks like we can achieve a compression ratio of about 80%...

Which means if you have a 100 gig site it should fit into a 20 gig 2257Safe.com account.

Hope that answers some more questions as to pricing...

Michael

www.AdultBizLaw.com
www.2257Safe.com


doesn't that contradict the "as depicted" statement?

i also still think you're underestimating the amount of a content some of these girls have. many turn out 2-3 updates a week including high-res video plus webcam shows. and you can bet what's stored on the webserver is already compressed.

100 gigs isn't raw out of the camera, that's more like terabytes...

MikeSouth 03-16-2009 12:28 AM

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LOL

for what it would cost me for all my sites I could pay alan begner to sit at my house

hats off to tony404 for that one liner

kmdguy 03-16-2009 11:36 AM

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Hi there,

Just wanted to try to clear up a misconception that I think people may have about storage space relating to 2257Safe. Many people I believe are thinking, "I have a 100GB, 200GB or 500GB site... how can I possibly afford to mirror that?"

The reality is that the content size and quality required for record keeping purposes is totally different than what is required for paying consumers. An HD video for paying consumers which might have a footprint of 640x480 or 720x360 at 25 or 30 fps is overkill for record keeping purposes. When you push that file up for your records, it will be converted down to approximately 320x240 or even 240x180 at 15 fps with a low to medium compression scheme which will reduce the overall storage size of that piece of content dramatically, making a 100MB file turn into a 10MB file for record keeping purposes. High quality photos will behave in the same manner. Also, 2257Safe's interface will guide you through the process of uploading so that you are only uploading and storing what is necessary, not other non-related fluff and redundant files, etc.

I think once we can educate the public of this concept then the concern over storage space required to handle your records will be allayed.

MikeSouth 03-16-2009 02:54 PM

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i dont think it is a misconception If I used this for all my sites id be at the top teir even with your compression. and I cant afford that pricing...no way

MikeSouth 03-16-2009 02:56 PM

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I do have a suggestion though.

Instead of storing all that data why not just do a symbolic link back to the original scenes on the customers site. That way you still have the required media and all you store is a database of ids, performer names etc

and for that you could charge a much more reasonable price

kmdguy 03-16-2009 03:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeSouth (Post 824951)
I do have a suggestion though.

Instead of storing all that data why not just do a symbolic link back to the original scenes on the customers site. That way you still have the required media and all you store is a database of ids, performer names etc

and for that you could charge a much more reasonable price


Hi Mike, thanks for your comment.

What do you think might happen in this scenario: A legal entity comes to our office for a inspection of your records. We open up your records for them, but since your hosting company is flaky (we don't know), they are offline because of problems. Now all of a sudden, none of your content is available to compared with what they have. Now your records are incomplete and you fail any inspection because the content needs to be present as part of the comprehensive 2257 documentation. Now, who would be liable for the failure of an inspection?

We have $2 million of E&O insurance to help each and every one of our clients if something goes awry that WE control. Letting each user put a key aspect of their record keeping in the form hotlinks to a plethora of unknown services beyond our control becomes an obvious weak link in the chain.

Unfortunately, the fact remains that complete 2257 documentation requires all text based information AND depictions of the performance be kept together, and really this just makes sense. This is why we are able to offer $2 million in insurance, PCI-DSS security both of which are prohibitively expensive for those that think they can offer the same service to others out of their closets at home.

If you want you can contact me offline and tell me about how much you have. There is no doubt that we will offer a custom plan for those that have very large amounts of data.

MikeSouth 03-16-2009 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kmdguy (Post 824955)
Hi Mike, thanks for your comment.

What do you think might happen in this scenario: A legal entity comes to our office for a inspection of your records. We open up your records for them, but since your hosting company is flaky (we don't know), they are offline because of problems. Now all of a sudden, none of your content is available to compared with what they have. Now your records are incomplete and you fail any inspection because the content needs to be present as part of the comprehensive 2257 documentation. Now, who would be liable for the failure of an inspection?

We have $2 million of E&O insurance to help each and every one of our clients if something goes awry that WE control. Letting each user put a key aspect of their record keeping in the form hotlinks to a plethora of unknown services beyond our control becomes an obvious weak link in the chain.

Unfortunately, the fact remains that complete 2257 documentation requires all text based information AND depictions of the performance be kept together, and really this just makes sense. This is why we are able to offer $2 million in insurance, PCI-DSS security both of which are prohibitively expensive for those that think they can offer the same service to others out of their closets at home.

If you want you can contact me offline and tell me about how much you have. There is no doubt that we will offer a custom plan for those that have very large amounts of data.


Id bet my hosting company is less likely to fail than your servers but thats beside the point you could experience the same outage. keeping a duplicate of a site online is retarded guys...deal with it.

Theres way better ways

kmdguy 03-16-2009 06:51 PM

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Our servers are unreal their quality, integrity and security (PCI-DSS compliant), but the point is, if OUR servers fail, you are insured for it, if your servers fail, neither of us is insured for it and since we are charged with the responsibility of your 2257 records, we'd rather have our clients in a position where they are insured and covered.

Hell Puppy 03-16-2009 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kmdguy (Post 824960)
Our servers are unreal their quality, and security

That's a bold statement to put in public.

Especially when you're running Flash 10.

MikeSouth 03-17-2009 01:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kmdguy (Post 824960)
Our servers are unreal their quality, integrity and security (PCI-DSS compliant), but the point is, if OUR servers fail, you are insured for it, if your servers fail, neither of us is insured for it and since we are charged with the responsibility of your 2257 records, we'd rather have our clients in a position where they are insured and covered.

Insured huh? so yer gonna go to jail on the rap then? Thats a helluva insurance policy

explains the costs though


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