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I hope to god they do

I am 100% legal and above board, I just wish everyone else was too, would be nice to see some people go down for their illegal ways

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I'm still not sure how YOU are tied into all of this....but you're just a funny icon to me.
:blink:

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:scratchin:scratchin:scratchin:scratchin

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I think he is asking: What is your interest in all this? You have been quite vocal about it. Do they owe you money? Do/did you have to change out a shit load of links? What exactly is your stake in this whole thing?

:scratchin

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:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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I think hes over here on the side of the truth bench.
Those depos and the missing ones are pretty telling and I think we have only just begun with this.

Latest quote I heard was that the new allegations were NOT about paying webmasters -whom have been owed for 2 years - but are about mitigating damages to Naked Rhino.

Even AFF is smart enough to pay off some webmasters but I cant even begin how to fathom the logic of not paying your promo partners or thinking that anyone will ever promote them again.

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Hmm, so Jace can't answer for himself anymore eh? Except for smilies I guess.

I haven't seen it that way. I do not know any of the folks involved in any way so have no idea about any of them except what I got from the depos (and I read all of them all the way through).

From the start of this, Jace has been slamming on Chris and Tracy. He acts as if he has inside info, has no apparent personal stake in it and still continues to feed the innuendo machine. So, I think it is a fair question.

If he is on the side of the truth, then he should not be so one sided about it.

Just imho of course.

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Fair enough response to me! I am certainly interested to see how all this shakes out. It may seem Im piling on Chris and Tracy.

Im not.

I just cant see any excuse for several things that Ive read so far.
The main one being not paying affiliates.

Maybe theres something left out that I havent seen yet.

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you want the truth??? you can HANDLE the truth!!!!!

haha

seriously, the most I can say publicly is that Angel and Vegas are VERY good friends of ours....we have been through a lot with them, and anyone that knows how honest I am, can be sure they are on the exact same level

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Looks like (according to Chris) he tried to pay at least something to some of them:

http://www.americantune.net/chrispaid.jpg

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On the same level eh? So, you've served time in the federal pen? And you would sell a laptop that you don't own on ebay?

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and now for the long version

sorry, had to type it all out

Was I an affiliate of Xclusive Cash, yes, can I tell if money were owe to me, don't know because obviously the site is all gone now so I guess you can considered that as a personal interest ... Before all this happened I've never had any problems with Chris or Tracey other wise I wouldn't have joined their program, but when some of my friends are owed money and it doesn't look like they have any intentions of paying, yea I'm gonna take sides and I'm gonna defend on what I think it's right

after reading the deposition, even Chris said in his own words, this is not about paying back the affiliates it's about what was posted on GFY, translates... rebill issues, affiliate payouts.. not my concern, I just wanna know where's my 5 million

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When I was 18 I got caught stealing credit cards out of mailboxes, I was arrested and charged with 31 counts of fraudulent use with a credit card and 21 counts of theft of mail matter...all dropped to misdemeanor due to it being my first offense

when I was 21-24 I was a pretty crazy cocaine dealer, I was selling on average 2-3 ounces a week and was known where I was as "the coke guy"...that ended when I was 24 when the DEA busted down my door and charged me with intent to distribute and posession, all they could find was a gram of cocaine and some bunk ecstasy pills

in total since I was 18 I have been to jail 8 times

since then I have shaped my life in a better direction, am I still a hooligan every once and a while, sure! what is life without breaking a few rules?

as for that laptop they claimed he stole, he was given a list of things to give back to NR, EVERY single thing that was listed was returned, the laptop wasn't and because all their cash was gone from a business being pulled out from under them, he sold it to make ends meet

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and btw, blake have NEVER been anything but up front and honest about doing time, if you ask he will tell you...he will also tell you that period of his life is LONG GONE, and anyone that does business with him KNOWS THAT without a doubt

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Yeah, he said that the lawsuit and deposition were not about the affiliates, and he was right. It is a defamation case, it is not a case of him suing on behalf of the affiliates or the affiliates suing.

So, for answering the question honestly, he doesn't care if he ever pays the affiliates eh?

You sure get more out of a paragraph then I do.

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oh wait, let me rephrase that, maybe not to make ends me because after all Chris suggested that Blake stole $209K right????

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yea so why wouldn't you take it personally when your friends are NOT being paid and NR's done nothing to address that issue

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there is SO much more to that lawsuit than a defamation case and you know it

if you think the only outcome is going to be someone gets justice for some bad words they said, then you really need to go back and re-read what is really going on

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I never saw anything where they claimed he stole it. I saw where he was asked if he tried to sell a laptop that he had gotten from the company on ebay and he said that yes he did.

So, if someone forgets to ask you for something back then it is ok for you to sell it?

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was that in the desposition,? Chris forgot to ask for it back? If you sell your house and during the contract signing the fridge is not on the list of items being sold do you as a buyer come back later and say oh sorry that fridge is mine? I forgot to put it in the contract

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Perhaps, but the fact remains that NR is suing TMM over defamayion. Will there be lots of subresults, sure, Chris even indicates that an accounting is one of the things he hopes would come out of it even though he did not ask for it explicitly.

So, it is ok for you to understand that there is more to it than the surface but it is not ok for Chris to realize that. Because Chris did not make that a primary function of the lawsuit he must be not want that, eh?

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So, he made that offer to 3 affiliates and that supposed to make him look like he's doing the right thing? It's one thing if Chris had made this offer to ALL the affiliates, then yea I can see an attempt has been made to make things right and maybe more people would be on their side of the fences, but not once since all this happened he's made a public statement with that offer, as matter of fact when asked how was xclusive cash terminated... "humm we took off the html pages?" WTF where's the press release for that? I didn't know that's how programs are terminated these days.. screw you and your existing codes, it's gone see ya!

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Anytime there's a problem with a sponsor program, the primary response for any responsible program owner is to make sure the affiliates link codes, payments are not compromised. Hell I get letter from sponsor programs when payments are late... and to think this has been going on for over a year and it's not their primary concern?

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so back to your original question.. what is your personal stake in all this? "if he is on the side of the truth, then he should not be so one sided about it" which side are you on lol

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Not in those words. Blake indicates that he returned what he was asked to return. Since that laptop was not on the list, he did not return it.


http://www.americantune.net/laptop.jpg

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That was in response to Gonzo's statement:

But, you wouldn't be you in this matter if you weren't taking shit out of context.

Must be that honest streak you have:okthumb:

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so now he is a thief because he returned what he was ASKED to return and nothing more? ROFL

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Most sponsor problems have not been revealed to the program through a phone call to the program owner while they are driving home from a show by someone like Albright telling them he is going to start crediting a bunch of people for a problem that the owner was for all intents and purposes not aware of.

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Who called him a thief?

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Really what program does he own? 'someone like Albright' meaning what? Did Albright say he was gonna start crediting bunch of people?.. wow didn't know you were in the conversation... so who's taking shit out of context now?

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I am on neither side. I have read the deops, I have gone back and reviewed threads on GFY.

I find Chris and Tracy to be believeable. I find Blake to be less believable but not to the point of criminal and my opinion of Charles what's his face is quite low.

Haven't seen what Albright has to say beyond his posts. I find it very hard to believe that he did his postings to protect TMM or affiliates. He did his post (imho) because Chris told him to fuck off on the phone. He took what could have been resolved privately and threw it up on the boards and basically torpedoed someone elses's program over his own ego.

I don't think Chris and Tracy's non-solution to the problem is the best one but they are locked out of the program and can only get back in if they do it TMM's way which is bullshit.

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That is from the deposition, I think Chris's.

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So that's how you respond when you have nothing to hide, rather then.. I'm on the road, lets chat when I get back...

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How many time has TMM offered to unlock admin for them to get that resolved. But instead they get a noticed from NRM not to contact them directly?

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Once you get lawyers involved it all goes to hell, you know that. And the lawyers were involved as soon as Albright's post went up.

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If the caller hits me wrong, hell yes. And you know that you would too.

If you had no knowledge of an issue and out of the blue someone calls and is nasty with you, are you friendly or pissed? Let's just say it's a bill collector. They call and say, hey, you owe $5000 on your visa, what you gonna do about it? But as far as you know, the visa has been paid on time, you gonna guarantee to be friendly with that guy? And fucking be honest about it.

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Chirs's version of the phonecall:

http://www.americantune.net/phonecall.jpg

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Do you think there is traceable revenue on the stolen email addresses from the security leak?

Do you think that we will find that traffic, spam, re-directs are found on a adult site owned or operated by a TMM owner/employee?

Is there a potential class action law suit by customers who's email addresses were compromised and were not informed of this theft as soon as TMM became aware of it?

How many customers had a increase of spam or malware after signing up under a site managed by TMM and is there some relevancy connecting the two?

There has been new legal complaints filed daily on spam and malware across the country; this case is in Federal Court I don't think the case will go under the radar and the exposure and answers to the above questions will get answered.

Anyone know who the John/Jane Does are?

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You are an idiot

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btw, since the suit is about defamation, what in the original post was false exactly?