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( best Sean Connery accent..)

You have learned well Highlander....


;-)))

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Well, it's more PC in my own mind to think that perhaps I wouldn't take actions that I am very capable of taking, I suppose.

You ever read Gone With the Wind?

I'm kind of like one part in it, where it goes on about how Scarlett wants the accolades and such for being a lady without having to change her knave soul.

I'd like to be thought of as kind and nice and those things.

But I'm not those things, and I don't foresee a change, really.

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Why ?

and oh...Don't :)

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I told her you were a great snuggler. No better spooner in the world!

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Why the fuck do you want to be thought of as "nice"?

Have you been programmed to lose?

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You're intelligent, quick of wit, you cause others to question themselves often (something that too few people do on their own, so its good there's people like you out there) and you're willing to share tidbits of knowledge with the people who are smart enough to recognize them for what they are.

And telling me not to respect you won't work.

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I've had it as my life goal for a few years now to be thought of as "formidable"

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~considers~

Hmmm.

I will have to think on that for a minute or two.

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Jesus if a few words on a message board can earn your respect...damn!!!!

Anthony knows what I'm thinking....lol

;-))

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OH MY FAWKING GAWD, NOT FUCKING AGAIN!!!

PLEASE LEAVE 2000 BACK WHERE IT BELONGS, HISTORY

It's like deja vu. I've heard these words before.

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Aha, that's the answer there, in the 2nd line.

It's good to be "thought of" as nice, when you're not actually nice. ;)

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Because it's easier to get what I want that way, I think is the reason.

Without going in to analysis over it, I would say that is likely the answer.

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You are a woman.

Its a mans world.

Best you can strive for is "a bitch"

;-)))

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Don't need to and haven't read more than the first 4-5 posts in this thread

Serge gave amazing advice

Nick has long said we all have the morals we can afford

Put the two together and make the most $ you can


If need be ask yourself who's Xmas is more important, your's and your families or some clients who you have no ties to?

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Broken Jaw?

aaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaahahahaha

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That would be true, if I thought like a woman, except I can't stand most women out there, and made it a point to think as much like a man as possible my whole life, (ie rational, reasonable, logical)

The result is that most out there consider me a bitch, and if I simply settled for "bitch" it would hold me back from obtaining what I know I can achieve, so I had to finely hone my "lady" skills because there are some extreme advantages to be had when one is approachable instead of simply "terrifying"

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BINGO!!!

Again sage advice from Serge "Are they your friend? Are they your family? No? Then fuck them"

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I wanted the name "Morgan Grayson," which isn't my own, to be associated with being "kind and nice," too.

Unfortunately, it was a "nice kind of idiot" that evolved.

"Certain people" (who are currently doing "The Highlander") attempted to explain to me that "nice" meant "weak" in this world. Well, they were right. Very, very right.

Back in the day, I owned a pretty little link site...and I never one time asked the owner of a successful link site how to run the damned thing to make MONEY. It wasn't that I didn't know any. I knew a ton of them. First real name basis and everything. I got a few tidbits of advice, but nothing like what I would have gotten if I'd overcome my "you don't take advantage of friends by asking them questions" bullshit and drained their brains.

I'm currently building another linksite and have the owner of a very successful, money making linksite on speed dial. Am I using him? Sure. Is he using me right back? Of course. What's he getting? I'm funny and fun to yack at and I break up his day. And, by teaching me, he learns, too. It's a nice symbiotic relationship. (The guy is an absolute doll and makes me long for my phone sex days, frankly.)

Back in the day I got invaluable advice on many things that I didn't follow. I can list "reasons," and "excuses" but it all boils down to one word. "Failure."

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bottomline...you are sitting on a fortune... ;-)))

use it :)

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Not fully, but enough that I'd consider leaving my bedroom & venturing over to Van to find out more. :)

I prefer not to associate with most people out there, most people aren't worth the time of day. (Keep in mind I live on the island)

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My first day of Golf, I was given this advice by a rather smart looking individual with great taste in golf shoes.

"Use every possible rule and advantage you can to win."

It's worked for me over the years. You should try it out.

Golf mimics life.

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Precisley.

I don't want to be nice, I don't have the luxury of that.

Reality vs illusion

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indeed! :)

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High praise... thank you. :)

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Interesting.

I have been given the moniker, "Honest Anthony".

Cause I is!

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Life is THE best game of all!!

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Honesty and morals are two different things in my book.

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You are ..

:)

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That would be why I worked on my approachability & lady skills & continue to do so...

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I have always said if I could do one thing over again online I'd have pretended to be a woman..

;-)))

Drugs ,alchohol and gambling are really bad addictions that make you do very stupid things...but the real dangerous addiction is pussy fever. ;-)))

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Although I'm loathe to fall back on gender biases, men can get away with being purely 'honest.'

I'm honest too. Brutally so. Its part of why I decided to work on learning to be a lady, because if I was simply "honest" i'd be simply a bitch. I intend on being a lot more.

I wouldn't say "Reality vs Illusion" either though, reality is I am a lady, reality is I'm also honest. Reality is that most people out there can't handle that & find me very unsettling & unnerving as a result.

I'd say the key different is tact. There's honest, and simply blurting out the truth & leaving the other person horribly crushed & wounded feeling, (that's Bitch) and then there's honesty where the other person absorbs what you're telling them, acknowledges it as truth, and can't fault you in the slightest for making them feel the way they do, (the truth hurts) simply because of how you went about it. The latter, is formidable.

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In fact now that I think about it if we were close friends Ryan I'll be pissed and tell you that you are a fucking wanker for putting some nonsense before your own well being (and your families Xmas)

The people you do business with are still going to be there

How often do some rubes come along? Just lead them right, cash the checks and say next and what can I build, do for you next?

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Learning my lady skills was one of the more difficult tasks, although I will admit it was made a lot easier by the lessons my mother taught me as a child.

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"Focker, Did I not fully explain the Circle of Trust?!"

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Some interesting posts. To be clear the situations were things like someone who wanted SEO and was willing to pay me $25 per hour for it. I told them I was knowledgable about it but didn't have a great deal of experience instead of saying "I know what I'm doing" and doing what I do know about SEO (very little, lol) for them... This lead to me being overly honest about my lack of knowledge.

The reason I did that is I have always thought about the clients I would lose in the future if I just plain and simple took the guy for 80 hours and did very little for him. If he happens to be the wrong person my name is out there as a blatant scammer in a matter of two weeks noone will do biz with me.

As far as how bad the X-Mas is... My mortgage payment is behind, bills are behind, and I an't get 'as nice' of presents as I would like to... but there will of course be a X-Mas for my daughter none the less. This is the first X-Mas in my life I have felt like this and I am about ready to just go out looking for some sucker to offer them the world and cash a quick check.

I understand what Nick is saying... my only argument against that is cut throat business is different then directly lying (and ripping off) customers. I guess in a sense it isn't ... Odd I give a shit as frustrated as I wake up every day lately...

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Ryan you could've learned as you went however. Life is progressive.

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Shit for $25 an hour, I definitely would've learned...

Don't underestimate yourself, you'll lose out if you look at yourself now and think "This is all I have to offer"

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Nope, this is NOT about money, it's about EDUCATION and NOBODY should withdraw the educational lessons from ANYBODY-
to do that is...IMMORAL and SELFISH!

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You're an humanitarian! ;)

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Proximity to Nick must continue to rub off on me, because I stopped reading the post above right there where I cut it off.

Why? Because anything that was said after that was all excuses. Again, I say that without having read it. Also, I don't need anyone telling me I was right.