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el pres 07-08-2005 04:44 AM

The phone lines were still buggered into the night, I spoke to my sister who lives and works in London, Most people are just relieved that it's happened
and it wasn't huge, it's been expected for a while.

She passed through kings cross on the Piccadilly line about 20 minutes before the bomb, so that was lucky.

Today she's just pissed off that she has to go to work cause there's no tubes on the line she takes.

Trev 07-08-2005 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by el pres@Jul 8 2005, 09:45 AM
The phone lines were still buggered into the night, I spoke to my sister who lives and works in London, Most people are just relieved that it's happened
and it wasn't huge, it's been expected for a while.

She passed through kings cross on the Piccadilly line about 20 minutes before the bomb, so that was lucky.

Today she's just pissed off that she has to go to work cause there's no tubes on the line she takes.

She was very lucky indeed, it'll be a nightmare for her having to bus it across London today though.

Trev 07-08-2005 04:54 AM

Lee,

Any luck getting ahold of your parents?

Rolo 07-08-2005 05:04 AM

Now the hunt for the bastards behind will begin... if it is anything like Madrid, then we can probably expect that these islamist scums are hiding somewhere with lots of explosives, and will strick again, if not found...

Trev 07-08-2005 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rolo@Jul 8 2005, 10:05 AM
Now the hunt for the bastards behind will begin... if it is anything like Madrid, then we can probably expect that these islamist scums are hiding somewhere with lots of explosives, and will strick again, if not found...
The football season starts next month and the average stadium holds 40,000+ people.

I'm still in with JR's shooting them in the face idea!






Edit: When found of course.

Lee 07-08-2005 05:32 AM

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Originally posted by Trev@Jul 8 2005, 12:55 AM
Lee,

Any luck getting ahold of your parents?

Nope not yet however i dont expect to hear anything until later this morning.

If anything had happened i would have been told though so im going on the no news is good news train of thought right now :)

Rolo 07-08-2005 05:43 AM

Just 7 miles from my old home, there is a small radical moske, which have already have had 3 people connected with al qaeda and other extremist groups... one was in guantanamo (caught in afghanistan), but later released due to pressure from the government, another is awating the death penalty in Morocco for taking part in terror, and last one is in a israeli prison for preparing terrorist attacks.

If anything happens in my old town, then I think people will burn it to the ground... :unsure:

Rolo 07-08-2005 07:09 AM

http://www.werenotafraid.com/ - fuck the terrorists and smile today :)

Trev 07-08-2005 08:45 AM

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Originally posted by Lee+Jul 8 2005, 10:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lee @ Jul 8 2005, 10:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Trev@Jul 8 2005, 12:55 AM
Lee,

Any luck getting ahold of your parents?

Nope not yet however i dont expect to hear anything until later this morning.

If anything had happened i would have been told though so im going on the no news is good news train of thought right now :) [/b][/quote]
That's the best way to think :)

Trev 07-08-2005 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by Rolo@Jul 8 2005, 10:44 AM
Just 7 miles from my old home, there is a small radical moske, which have already have had 3 people connected with al qaeda and other extremist groups... one was in guantanamo (caught in afghanistan), but later released due to pressure from the government, another is awating the death penalty in Morocco for taking part in terror, and last one is in a israeli prison for preparing terrorist attacks.

If anything happens in my old town, then I think people will burn it to the ground... :unsure:

My neighbour is a Muslim and even she condemns actions like this, every religion has its extremists.

Even though she’s against the terror it hasn’t stopped her being a target for the local mindless fucktards though :(

Rolo 07-08-2005 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by Rolo@Jul 8 2005, 03:10 AM
http://www.werenotafraid.com/ - fuck the terrorists and smile today :)
http://www.werenotafraid.com/images/...illenbrand.jpg

HAHAHAHAHA!!!


(ok - you got to know your war movies to get this one - hint Apocalypse Now - or know the song by the clash ;-))

Dravyk 07-08-2005 11:27 AM

"I love the smell of napalm in the morning." :kapow:

Lee 07-08-2005 03:24 PM

Just heard from the parents, they are fine :)

Mike AI 07-08-2005 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by Lee@Jul 8 2005, 02:25 PM
Just heard from the parents, they are fine :)
Good news!

Bhelliom 07-08-2005 03:36 PM

Great news lee

Bhelliom 07-08-2005 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by Dravyk@Jul 8 2005, 07:28 AM
"I love the smell of napalm in the morning." :kapow:
Smells like.... *sniff sniff* Victory...

Newton 07-08-2005 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lee@Jul 8 2005, 11:25 AM
Just heard from the parents, they are fine :)
Excellent mate :)

Dravyk 07-08-2005 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lee@Jul 8 2005, 02:25 PM
Just heard from the parents, they are fine :)
Very good news, Lee!!! I've seriously been wondering. Glad to hear it!

Lee 07-08-2005 04:13 PM

Cheers Guys :)

Its a worry lifted thats for sure :)

Peaches 07-08-2005 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lee@Jul 8 2005, 03:25 PM
Just heard from the parents, they are fine :)
:bjump: :bjump: :bjump:

Trev 07-08-2005 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lee@Jul 8 2005, 08:25 PM
Just heard from the parents, they are fine :)
Excellent news mate :)

It's role reversal at it's worst. Give them a shouting at then ground them :awinky:

Newton 07-11-2005 04:34 AM

Watching the news this monday morning in London and things are almost back to normal with transport and people using it.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article...ource=PA%20Feed

Rolo 07-11-2005 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JR@Jul 7 2005, 11:49 AM
whats the point of immediately condemning the attacks? would there otherwise be an assumption that the government supported them?

US and Britain should learn from Russia... say a gas line blew up and deny any terrorist involvement and act puzzled that such an assumption came up. no reason to empower terrorists when you can downplay everything and then go quietly kidnap them and shoot them in the face.

Quote:


16 dead in explosion in Ukhta shop
MOSCOW. July 11 (Interfax) - An explosion in a shop in the Komi town of Ukhta killed 16, a representative of the Russian Emergency Situations Ministry press service told Interfax with the reference to preliminary information.

"The explosion and a fire occurred in the Passage shop on Oktyabrskaya Street at 1:58 p.m. Moscow time," he said.

Rescuers and the police are working at the explosion scene.

Meanwhile, a source in the Russian Interior Ministry said that the explosion resulted from a gas cylinder detonation.

http://www.interfax.ru/e/B/politics/28.htm..._issue=11334893

:unsure:

Newton 07-12-2005 04:11 AM

4 residential houses have been raided in West Yorkshire, with a 5th ongoing due to intelligence recieved regarding the bombings in London.

PornoDoggy 07-12-2005 04:21 AM

Why are they raiding individual houses? Why aren't they using napalm? :rolleyes:

Newton 07-12-2005 04:46 AM

It is Yorkshire .. hmm good point .. :biglaugh:

sarah_webinc 07-12-2005 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JR@Jul 7 2005, 11:49 AM
whats the point of immediately condemning the attacks? would there otherwise be an assumption that the government supported them?

US and Britain should learn from Russia... say a gas line blew up and deny any terrorist involvement and act puzzled that such an assumption came up. no reason to empower terrorists when you can downplay everything and then go quietly kidnap them and shoot them in the face.

it was rather obviously terrorist attacks

Rolo 07-12-2005 07:31 AM

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Originally posted by sarah_webinc@Jul 12 2005, 02:14 AM
it was rather obviously terrorist attacks
It could also be the work of single madman... there was and is not any solid public evidence that confirms it was a terrorist network behind... so I agree with JR - do not give them the publicity, unless it servers a purpose. If they want our attention, then they can buy their TV/Radio/Newspaper/Internet advertising like everyone else - no reason giving it away for free...

Dravyk 07-12-2005 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by Rolo+Jul 12 2005, 06:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rolo @ Jul 12 2005, 06:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-sarah_webinc@Jul 12 2005, 02:14 AM
it was rather obviously terrorist attacks
It could also be the work of single madman...[/b][/quote]
Uh, yeah. Maybe it was bleeding Moriarti himself. <_<

Bhelliom 07-12-2005 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by Dravyk+Jul 12 2005, 07:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dravyk @ Jul 12 2005, 07:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by Rolo@Jul 12 2005, 06:32 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-sarah_webinc
Quote:

@Jul 12 2005, 02:14 AM
it was rather obviously terrorist attacks


It could also be the work of single madman...

Uh, yeah. Maybe it was bleeding Moriarti himself. <_< [/b][/quote]
indubitably my dear watson.

Rolo 07-13-2005 04:55 AM

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THIS is one of the four young Britons who carried out the London suicide bombings that killed 70 commuters.

Shehzad Tanweer, 22, blew up a Tube train at Aldgate, East London.
Two other killers were 19 and 30.

The fourth member of the Yorkshire gang, who all wore backpacks, is thought to be a teenager.

CCTV cameras filmed them smiling and chatting at King’s Cross station just 30 minutes before Thursday’s devastating attacks.

Then they split up — each carrying up to 10lbs of explosives and a timing device in his rucksack.

And at 8.50am they began to trigger four blasts which left 70 commuters dead.

Shehzad Tanweer was named as one of the killer's last night.

Another bomber was a 19-year-old reported missing by his family on the night of the explosion after telling them he was going to London to meet friends.

Sources said last night he was Hasib Hussain, from Beeston, Leeds, who died on the No 30 bus in Tavistock Square.

A third bomber is too badly charred to be identified yet, but is believed to be a teenager.

He blew himself up just after the Piccadilly Line train left King’s Cross in the direction of Russell Square.

The fourth was named as 30-year-old Mohammed Sadique Khan, from Dewsbury. His documents were found on the Edgware Road train.

But the al-Qaeda Mr Big who planned the 7/7 atrocity is feared to have fled the country hours before the bombs exploded.

Three of the killers drove down the M1 from West Yorkshire to Luton where they met an accomplice. They then boarded a Thameslink train to King’s Cross.

The bombers were captured on CCTV at 8.20am walking through a subway at King’s Cross.

One security source said last night: “They looked like they were going for a hike. They were chatting to each other and smiling.”

The four were identified after police sent a specialist liaison officer to see the 19-year-old’s family in West Yorkshire.

It is believed the family’s unwitting involvement played a key role in helping piece together the bombers’ movements.

Experts were shocked that even the family of one of the bombers had no idea of his evil intention.

They said it showed how hard it is to identify terrorists until it is too late — and how many may be at large.

All three of the bombers identified by police were “fresh-skinned” who were not known to security services.

They were all British-born and came from families who emigrated from Pakistan.

Explosives were found in a car parked at Luton station yesterday.

The explosives were due to be blown up in the fifth of a series of controlled blasts. A second vehicle found at Luton was taken to police storage in nearby Leighton Buzzard for examination.

A bomb factory was found during raids on six addresses in Leeds and Dewsbury, West Yorks.

A male relative of one of the bombers was arrested during one of the dawn swoops.

Armed police and bomb disposal experts yesterday gave 500 families just five minutes to collect their belongings and evacuate homes surrounding a house in Alexandra Grove, in the Burley area of Leeds.

Police laid on buses to take families away. They were later told to stay away overnight.

Army explosives experts were called in to carry out a controlled blast to break open the door — as cops with sniper rifles kept watch for nearly two hours.

West Yorkshire Chief Constable Colin Cramphorn revealed that suspect material had been discovered in the raids.

He added: “There is material in those premises that cannot be identified as harmless.

“Therefore, we are treating it as potentially hazardous until we are satisfied that it is harmless. We intend not to let people back until we are certain it is safe to do so.”

They included two semis knocked into one family home where

Tanweer lived in Colwyn Road, in Beeston, Leeds. He shared the house with his parents, brother Rezween, 17, and two sisters.

Just 400 yards away in Stratford Street cops stormed a house owned by Asian businessman Mohammed Fiaz and wife Hamida Begum. They are not thought to have lived there for several years.

But their sons — Nadeem, 26, and “Jacksey”, in his 30s — would drop in for a few days at time, then leave again.

A mile away, officers swooped in the Colenso Mount home of Mahmood Hussain, his wife Manizaand and their their sons Shazia and Hasib.

They shared the house with three other Asian men — Misbia and Aqsa Imran and Imran Mir.

In Dewsbury cops removed a silver Ford Escort and a silver Honda from outside the bungalow where retired teacher Farida Patel lived with her son Arshad, his wife and their baby in Thornhill Park Avenue.

A police source said the owner of the Escort was one of the bombers, and added: “The guy who drove that won’t be using it again. He’s dead.”

Officers also stormed the council house in Lees Holm where Arshad’s sister Hassina lived with her husband and young child.

See a pic of one of the scum terroists in the following post...

Trev 07-13-2005 09:02 AM

I hate dynanic links... this is the pic of one of the evil devils:





http://www.deepanal.net/devil.jpg


What a fucked up world this is :(

Rolo 07-13-2005 09:46 AM

Just like in Palestine - get some young kid to blow himself and others up in the name of Islam... and they say porn is bad for the young people....!

Dravyk 07-13-2005 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rolo@Jul 13 2005, 08:47 AM
Just like in Palestine - get some young kid to blow himself and others up in the name of Islam... and they say porn is bad for the young people....!
Religion can be worse! :(

sarah_webinc 07-14-2005 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rolo+Jul 12 2005, 03:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rolo @ Jul 12 2005, 03:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-sarah_webinc@Jul 12 2005, 02:14 AM
it was rather obviously terrorist attacks
It could also be the work of single madman... there was and is not any solid public evidence that confirms it was a terrorist network behind... so I agree with JR - do not give them the publicity, unless it servers a purpose. If they want our attention, then they can buy their TV/Radio/Newspaper/Internet advertising like everyone else - no reason giving it away for free... [/b][/quote]
if it was one person it is still terrorism...it doesn't have to be middle eastern terrorist to be terrorism and Londoners know that all too well. My point was that it was obviously 'foul play'

Rolo 07-14-2005 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sarah_webinc@Jul 14 2005, 04:49 AM
if it was one person it is still terrorism...it doesn't have to be middle eastern terrorist to be terrorism and Londoners know that all too well. My point was that it was obviously 'foul play'
Well, in my world I do not put every single violent incident as terror... A single man killing dozen of people is a mass murderer or serial killer... The terror aspect first comes into play, when we know the intention of the crime. Was it a sick fantasy to blow things up? Maybe he just had a bad day (falling down syndrome) or who knows....

The large majority of violent crimes are not an act of terror (something that inspires fear) - they are usual much more egocentric.

Ofcourse explosions in a large city will get speculation going, but is it the goverment job to tell the world press "yes, Mr. Osama assfucked our civilization again", or should they just keep it to the available public facts, and then behind closed doors enter the coordinates for some random terrorist scum hideout, and start attacking within the hour?


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