Well, it's still pretty likely you will be drunk for a week :)

I actually live in San Diego, so it's going to be fun running around my home turf.

The party at the Martini Ranch should be a good time. Look for me there if you go! [/quote]
At this rate Im worried Im going to be holed up with a green bottle of Hill's and a tube O lube!

At this rate Im worried Im going to be holed up with a green bottle of Hill's and a tube O lube! [/b][/quote]
Bottle + Lube = pics please :yowsa:

Bottle + Lube = pics please :yowsa:[/b][/quote]
http://www.sexines.com/pinhead1.jpg But it's just absinth!! .. Oh, no. It is a means to summon us.

http://www.sexines.com/pinhead1.jpg But it's just absinth!! .. Oh, no. It is a means to summon us. [/b][/quote]
hahahahahahaha :lol:

:wnw: :wnw:

I've got tears in my eyes here :D

In response to Newtons Original post, we offer content, turn key systems and an affiliate proram on the mobile side. We were in at the start of colour mobiles in 2002 and know pretty much all ya need to in terms of content and billing in the EU and the emerging USA mobile market.

Feel free to hit me up!
25341946

Justin

- PLUG OVER- <_<

Cool .. are matrix content allowing their images for mobiles now, or is that just images used in the design of the site?

What are your terms and conditions as I don't see them anywhere?

Is there a minimum per month that I would have to sell in terms of minutes, if I were to become an affiliate?

Nice site!

Your site seems to claim support for Australia and the USA. How are you doing that, seeing as they just outlawed mobile porn in AUS, and the USA hasn't ever allowed it via premium sms?

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...-31037,00.html

Are you offering some other service that is allowed? If you do, we should chat... we are launching a few sites with partners & might be able to work out a way to upsell your stuff.

T

Nice site!

Your site seems to claim support for Australia and the USA. How are you doing that, seeing as they just outlawed mobile porn in AUS, and the USA hasn't ever allowed it via premium sms?

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...-31037,00.html

Are you offering some other service that is allowed?

T [/b][/quote]
Col , you seem to know your stuff. :)

But there also seems to be a lot of bullshitters in your area.

Hence why I intend to wait til it really takes off before getting involved.

Thanks!

I'm not going to call bullshit on the AMC guys, as they haven't had a chance to respond yet :okthumb: I'm skeptical, but I don't really know anything about them firsthand. Honestly I hope they have something, because I've been looking for a good partner for a few things.

In general though, you are right. There are way too many companies with very flashy websites and shitty technology. It pisses me off because these guys go out and strike deals with every company they can find, and then fail, and it damages the entire industry.

It boggles my mind why companies insinuate that they can do things they can't.

I do know my stuff when it comes to mobile, prior to this I spent 5 years building very similar things for large phone companies. You might see me calling foul on this stuff more often shortly. Hopefully if enough people look silly, they will fall in line and play fair.


:groucho:

thanks for your comments...

in response, this is the curent ballpark deal:

USA - bikini babes only billable via premium SMS but porn via wap/mobile internet is ok if using cc or other billing method.
AUS - as above
UK and most of EU - full frontal / hard porn ok on Adult shortcode or tits only on non adult shotcode

MobileBabes.com affilaite program supports USA, AUS, NewZealand, South Africa, UK and much of europe and makes sure it complies with above depending on users location and registration

Newton, we are and have been exclusive Matrix Mobile Content distributors since 2003 as well as other great content libraries ready for mobile.

Hit me up if you have some mobile traffic and want to talk - there are no minimums Newton and no bullshit, just great conversion and giving the mobile users what they want- good looking babes on their phone. The terms link is on the signup page :huh:

Cool I might be able to find 1 or two that i am not using at the moment, will hit you up to discuss this further ..

Col , you seem to know your stuff. :)

But there also seems to be a lot of bullshitters in your area.

Hence why I intend to wait til it really takes off before getting involved. [/b][/quote]
whole lot of them

that's why our new venture is non-porn....most mobile downloaders are teens and I'd rather have that market than fuck with porn....

That's the smartest, and probably only smart thing I have seen anyone on this board say about mobile :okthumb:

Absolutely... Although mainstream mobile is a highly competitive market right now. Millions of marketing dollars go into promoting games and ringtones etc.. already, so it's tough for any normal sized companies to get in at this point.

Are you doing something new/different that you can share?

T

Absolutely... Although mainstream mobile is a highly competitive market right now. Millions of marketing dollars go into promoting games and ringtones etc.. already, so it's tough for any normal sized companies to get in at this point.

Are you doing something new/different that you can share?

T [/b][/quote]
quite different involving licensed images and unique text content, but can't divulge much more at this point....

I realize there is a lot of competition in that area already, but there is room for a company with a few more twists than the standard generic offerings currently available (not that they are all bad, but we've come up with a little different angle and are expanding what others are already doing). I'd still rather grab 5% of that market than mess with adult. I know there are a few who will make really good money offering adult services, but it just doesn't excite me as much as the teen market, profit and dollar-wise.

There are a handful who "get it" though and I'd count you and Newton amongst them (I'm not as familiar with AMC, so couldn't vouch personally, but he seems to know what he's talking about, which can't be said for a lot of other "mobile gurus" who seem to be more about smoke, mirrors and flash).

Very cool..

I agree. If you can come up with something different from the ringtone/j2me sites, there is still a lot of opportunity in mainstream mobile.

Once you get something ready for public view, you should hit me up. If it's something groundbreaking I have some good contacts at a lot of large mobile mainstream sites that are always looking for new partnerships.

Good luck man!

I will Todd. Be a pleasure to meet you. Finally someone else is going otehr than me and Sykk. I thought he and I were going to end up drunk for a week. [/b][/quote]
Todd def knows his shit. Just an FYI, we will be co-exhibiting with WireRunner in SD. We have something pretty exciting to show off.

Todd def knows his shit. Just an FYI, we will be co-exhibiting with WireRunner in SD. We have something pretty exciting to show off. [/b][/quote]
You can’t just leave all us non show goers hanging like that :(

Looking forward to seeing what guys will be releasing ..

Well, the show is in full swing, and we did our event last night, so we can talk about the site now.

www.pocketgirls.com is a partnership between Yanks.com and WireRunner Software, and is the first live site (of many to follow) using the WireRunner system.

It goes beyond just selling crappy background images to sell the equivalent of mini-magazines. You get a bunch of images, joke, story, and bio information about the girl with each purchase.

We can bill in 10 countries, with SMS billing available in all except the US. (because regardless of what the other sites are claiming, they CANNOT bill premium sms for hardcore in the states.. we will support this as soon as it is allowed)

Our system also supports video and audio (ringtones etc..), however for pocketgirls.com we chose not to expose that, because we wanted a system that the majority of phones can use.

We will be launching an affiliate program in about 60 days, so check it out!

I'd love to hear feedback from you guys, how can we make the system better etc...

-Todd

Well, the show is in full swing, and we did our event last night, so we can talk about the site now.

www.pocketgirls.com is a partnership between Yanks.com and WireRunner Software, and is the first live site (of many to follow) using the WireRunner system.

It goes beyond just selling crappy background images to sell the equivalent of mini-magazines. You get a bunch of images, joke, story, and bio information about the girl with each purchase.

We can bill in 10 countries, with SMS billing available in all except the US. (because regardless of what the other sites are claiming, they CANNOT bill premium sms for hardcore in the states.. we will support this as soon as it is allowed)

Our system also supports video and audio (ringtones etc..), however for pocketgirls.com we chose not to expose that, because we wanted a system that the majority of phones can use.

We will be launching an affiliate program in about 60 days, so check it out!

I'd love to hear feedback from you guys, how can we make the system better etc...

-Todd [/b][/quote]
Fucking stunning guys .. Looking forward to the affiliate program, and especially if it contains what we discussed, with 200 domains ready to go :)

Enjoy the show and have a great time .. Superb product and hit me up when you guys are back :)

Well, the show is in full swing, and we did our event last night, so we can talk about the site now.

www.pocketgirls.com is a partnership between Yanks.com and WireRunner Software, and is the first live site (of many to follow) using the WireRunner system.

It goes beyond just selling crappy background images to sell the equivalent of mini-magazines. You get a bunch of images, joke, story, and bio information about the girl with each purchase.

We can bill in 10 countries, with SMS billing available in all except the US. (because regardless of what the other sites are claiming, they CANNOT bill premium sms for hardcore in the states.. we will support this as soon as it is allowed)

Our system also supports video and audio (ringtones etc..), however for pocketgirls.com we chose not to expose that, because we wanted a system that the majority of phones can use.

We will be launching an affiliate program in about 60 days, so check it out!

I'd love to hear feedback from you guys, how can we make the system better etc...

-Todd [/b][/quote]
sounds fucking awesome

Mobile? Is it a bit pre-mature to invest in mobile technology? Granted you could be a pioneer, but isn't it usually the innovators and not the inventors that make it big? Perhaps it would be best to sit back and let people figure out the ups and downs and enter the market at a more mature time?

Steve check out http://www.3g.co.uk

The US/Canada is behind the rest of the world, but they are catching

if u dont get involved now you will be offering the same services the innovators are offering NOW and people wont see any advantage to using your site over the first site they came accross the features - technology

mobile is the future - sure if u dont want to be one of the sites that people say WOW about and then the word of mouth buzz turns your site into the adult myspace .. then dont .. but dont ask about how u can get some of the pie later on in the game without showing your wallet first

2cents

www.pocketgirls.com

shows a us flag - how are you billing the us if u previously had mentioned not being able to bill premium to the us

why not offer a Non Nude version so that you can bill premium to the us ?

titan

we got USA no problem (and dont forget the huge Aussie, and South African markets) and are doing exactly what you suggest ;-)

http://affiliate.mobilebabes.com
http://www.mobilebabes.com


Rob

If you purchase something in the US it takes you to a credit card checkout & then delivers the content using a non-premium SMS message.

All the other countries use premium SMS.

We are actually talking about doing a non-nude site for that exact reason.

To answer the question about the inventor versus the innovator... Mobile is already big over in Europe, we *are* the innovator ;)


T

I'm signed up for your program, and I do get text messages to my US T-Mobile account... but they aren't showing up as premium messages on my bill. Also, when I tried to unsubscribe (mb stop all to 89050), it fails to send the message (all my other messages work fine).


What's the deal with that? Are you *sure* you are really configured for premium SMS in the US? If you are, please cancel my account as your support page doesn't give me the right info.

T

Nice .. so you can sign up but not cancel?

People have been selling mobile content for many many years, well back into the 90's.

IMO people focussing on adult are missing the bigger picture, especially the ones using the Internet as their main avenue of marketing.

In the mobile industry the real money is made through alliances and distribution partnerships with mobile operators (e.g. Verizon) and device manufacturers (e.g. Nokia).

Teenagers, many of them girls, make up a large part of the demographic.

You're not going to get any mass marketing deal with Nokia for porn and you are not going to sell any porn to teenage girls. Focussing on porn and leaving out the rest is like opening a huge supermarket that only sells onions, you may sell some but you could be selling so many other things.

Approach new business opportunities as a businessman, not a pornographer, and you'll be many times more successful!

JMO ;-)

Another reason why I think mobile porn is not going to be anything like the adult Internet boom:

Why do people watch porn?

Well?

Because it helps them get off!

Where do people like to masturbate?

On the train?

At work?

At the grocery store?

I believe they prefer to do it in the privacy of their own home.

What screens do you have available at home to watch porn on?

Most people have at least one large TV screen (50"?) a computer screen (17"?) and a mobile phone screen (2"?).

What screen would you choose to watch your porn on?

If you want to make money from mobile, sell people something they can use on the train on the way to work, not something that is only useful in a place where better tools are available ;-)

If anyone has a valid argument why my theory is wrong I'd love to hear it!

I've jacked off on a train, plane, at work and many other places using only my imagination... a porn filled phone would have come in handy :yowsa:

Then I classify you as the person who goes to a supermarket that sells only onions ;-)

Then I classify you as the person who goes to a supermarket that sells only onions ;-) [/b][/quote]
I wasn't arguing in the corner of porn for phones... just trying to prove that my imagination is piss poor :P

I wasn't arguing in the corner of porn for phones... just trying to prove that my imagination is piss poor :P [/b][/quote]
I know, and I am just using you as an example for the fact that no matter what you sell, there's always a fool who will buy it, but not necessarily enough to earn you obscene money ;-)

I know, and I am just using you as an example for the fact that no matter what you sell, there's always a fool who will buy it, but not necessarily enough to earn you obscene money ;-) [/b][/quote]
Two of my favourite words... obscene and money :groucho:


Me personally, I'm looking for the next crazy frog... then as BillPMB would say I'm going to power hump it...






...and when I've done that I'm going to start selling it :yowsa:

Maybe a mobile crazy frog? I bet crazy frogs are more welcome on public transport than exhibitionists ;-)

Maybe a mobile crazy frog? I bet crazy frogs are more welcome on public transport than exhibitionists ;-) [/b][/quote]
Are you trying to imply I'm some kind of perv :lol:

I'm signed up for your program, and I do get text messages to my US T-Mobile account... but they aren't showing up as premium messages on my bill. Also, when I tried to unsubscribe (mb stop all to 89050), it fails to send the message (all my other messages work fine).


What's the deal with that? Are you *sure* you are really configured for premium SMS in the US? If you are, please cancel my account as your support page doesn't give me the right info.

T [/b][/quote]
Thanks for pointing that out Colpanic, it turns out you were looking at an out a date page inside the site. The main page is here http://www.mobilebabes.com/mbcommands.php and that old page now links to that too :P

Were billing most carriers Premium for sure in the US - but many of them havent caught up with the billing descriptions yet so I hear....