So you think a sponsor who doesn't mind their content being used in this fashion is the same as sponsor who doesn't? :unsure: Of course they're different!

Are you seriously saying that a sponsor doesn't have the right to cancel an affilate who is doing something he doesn't want them to do with their content?

Maybe I'm missing something really, really, really huge here, but sponsors being able to cancel affilates for doing things they don't want them doing doesn't seem like it's a new concept all of a sudden...... :blink:

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:burn: :burn: :burn:



:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :

Hellpuppy just wanted to win an Xbox :agrin:

So you think a sponsor who doesn't mind their content being used in this fashion is the same as sponsor who doesn't? :unsure: Of course they're different!

Are you seriously saying that a sponsor doesn't have the right to cancel an affilate who is doing something he doesn't want them to do with their content?

Maybe I'm missing something really, really, really huge here, but sponsors being able to cancel affilates for doing things they don't want them doing doesn't seem like it's a new concept all of a sudden...... :blink: [/b][/quote]
Im sure you know a few sponsors to ask....

First of all, I wouldn't just out and out shitcan the affiliate without emailing them telling them to avoiding using our content in this manner.

We've been allowing our content to be used in yahoo groups (as long as they were promoting our sites as well and the images weren't changed in any way). The problem is, we want them promoting OUR SITES.

See, we have this crazy deal with our site and models and members: they trust us and our girs are becoming well known. Our girls aren't as well known as the Lightspeed Girls, but we're working on it ;-)) What happens if this skim using our thumb is sent to a site that might be listing kiddie porn galleries? What if the skim is going to our competitors site?

So, what some of you guys are saying is I can use a purecash banner to promote my own program as long as I send 70% of my traffic to purecash? What about using a Little April banner to send traffic to Tawney Stone's site? Even better, what if I use a Lesbian Pink banner to send traffic to lesbian 101? ny of those sponsors would shitcan me and most likely not bother with an email or any other form of contact.

When we give content to our affiliates, it is to promote our sites. That's it. It's no different than providing banners, full page ads or hosted galleries.

psst, there's a glitch in the matrix
fax hit the line yesterday, but the sultan is sluggish on the recoil...
;-)

psst, there's a glitch in the matrix
fax hit the line yesterday, but the sultan is sluggish on the recoil...
;-) [/b][/quote]
Mike AI is in transit.

BREAK!!!!!!!!!!

We seem to have a conflict....

We have ...

employees who want to protect there companies copyrighted material.

And businessmen who want traffic.

A dliemma


OK START BOXING!


:popcorn:

I repeat Mike AI is in transit hahahahaha!

I disagree.

I think we have businessmen on both sides who want to do whatever they can to make as much money as they can :)

The problem seems be that when Businessman A says he doesn't want to do business anymore with Businessman B, Businessman B says they are required to. :P

I disagree.

I think we have businessmen on both sides who want to do whatever they can to make as much money as they can :)

The problem seems be that when Businessman A says he doesn't want to do business anymore with Businessman B, Businessman B says they are required to. :P [/b][/quote]
exactly

Nick dont tell her that biz man A & B are the same person.

Shit Vick, for a second there I thought your body had been taken
over by the poltergeist of Caprio... :o

uh oh Gonzo's pulling out the jedi mind trick again

;-))

So the program owner was also the TGP owner in the situation Hellpuppy started this thread about? That's an interesting scenario. Are they called "Sybil's TGP" and "Sybil's Other Personality's Paysite"? :yowsa:

All boards are a stage , and we ? We but mere players hawking our wares ;-)))

I KNEW it - HP just wanted the Xbox! :P

exactly [/quote]
Sponsors do have the option of terminating anyone they want for whatever they want. I don't really think that is relevant to the conversation - I don't think anyone is questioning that.

What I think they are questioning is the WISDOM of terminating the account over the use of the thumb in that manner. I repeat again - being "suprised" that it was being used that way indicates a lack of research on the part of the sponsor program. Everyone and their mother has an opinion on traffic trading and skim ... what people think it "ought to be" has been discussed more than (well, okay, almost as much as) Confucy's identity; if you are offering a promotional tool for use in the market, you ought to know what the market actually IS.

PROFESSIONALS probably would communicate with the "offending" webmaster before terminating the account (which was done) and/or going to the boards (which does not appear to have been the case).

Sykk - while your arguement about the banner is a lot closer to relevant than much of what has been posted, I still don't think it plays. Use of a sponsor banner or a sponsor-provided thumb to send traffic to another sponsor would be a obvious violation of the terms of use. Use of the thumb in such a manner for legitimate trading is a lot more in the gray ... the intent is to generate fresh credit cards/checking accounts, er, eyes to the sponsor.

Just cuz you started out Old School dont mean you cant stay current!

I KNEW it - HP just wanted the Xbox! :P [/b][/quote]
Yeah and some are:

stars
juvenile leads
supporting actors
fading leading actors
character actors
bit players
and extras.

The really smart ones go into Production and directing and writing the whole script.

And then the french call them auteurs!


Working out who is who is the bitch , and avoiding agents and managers.


;-)))

Sponsors do have the option of terminating anyone they want for whatever they want. I don't really think that is relevant to the conversation - I don't think anyone is questioning that.

What I think they are questioning is the WISDOM of terminating the account over the use of the thumb in that manner. I repeat again - being "suprised" that it was being used that way indicates a lack of research on the part of the sponsor program. Everyone and their mother has an opinion on traffic trading and skim ... what people think it "ought to be" has been discussed more than (well, okay, almost as much as) Confucy's identity; if you are offering a promotional tool for use in the market, you ought to know what the market actually IS.

PROFESSIONALS probably would communicate with the "offending" webmaster before terminating the account (which was done) and/or going to the boards (which does not appear to have been the case).

Sykk - while your arguement about the banner is a lot closer to relevant than much of what has been posted, I still don't think it plays. Use of a sponsor banner or a sponsor-provided thumb to send traffic to another sponsor would be a obvious violation of the terms of use. Use of the thumb in such a manner for legitimate trading is a lot more in the gray ... the intent is to generate fresh credit cards/checking accounts, er, eyes to the sponsor. [/quote]
I'm not disagreeing that it might not be SMART to allow this kind of trade. I even said several times that if the sponsor is cool with it, then of course there is no problem.

This doesn't seem to be the case with this particular sponsor. Again, as I said before, if s/he loses money by not accepting this practice, then so be it. 'Tis why I brought up the apples and oranges - a sponsor who wants to make money this way ISN'T the same sponsor that doesn't :) Then there's the revelation from Gonzo that the TGP owner and the sponsor are the same person, so I guess both sponsors could also be the same person :)

But IMHO, the sponsor has the right to decide how the content he legally owns the rights to gets used and has the right to decide to terminate an affiliate who doesn't do what they want them to do with it.

With that, I'm off to the store to buy toothpaste, deodorant, aspirin, a rain coat, small canoe and all the other crap I need to take for the trip. :okthumb:

I'm not disagreeing that it might not be SMART to allow this kind of trade. I even said several times that if the sponsor is cool with it, then of course there is no problem.

This doesn't seem to be the case with this particular sponsor. Again, as I said before, if s/he loses money by not accepting this practice, then so be it. 'Tis why I brought up the apples and oranges - a sponsor who wants to make money this way ISN'T the same sponsor that doesn't :) Then there's the revelation from Gonzo that the TGP owner and the sponsor are the same person, so I guess both sponsors could also be the same person :)

But IMHO, the sponsor has the right to decide how the content he legally owns the rights to gets used and has the right to decide to terminate an affiliate who doesn't do what they want them to do with it.

With that, I'm off to the store to buy toothpaste, deodorant, aspirin, a rain coat, small canoe and all the other crap I need to take for the trip. :okthumb: [/quote]
gag order?








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:popcorn:

Yeah and some are:

stars
juvenile leads
supporting actors
fading leading actors
character actors
bit players
and extras.

The really smart ones go into Production and directing and writing the whole script.

And then the french call them auteurs!


Working out who is who is the bitch , and avoiding agents and managers.


;-))) [/b][/quote]
I'll just be the fluffer B)

I'll just be the fluffer B) [/b][/quote]
ahahahahhahahahahahahahaahahahah

Gadzooks I've been had

where's the fish hooked icon :cool2:

A nice big glass of STFU was delivered.

ahahahahahahahahhahahaha

Silence is golden , so they say ;-)))

Fuck me , I love this game :)

ok, what if I put a button of YOUR TGP but link it to another TGP 30% of the time?
wouldn't I get blacklisted from the TGP?

I sure hope you aren't talking about me......... :unsure:

I sure hope you aren't talking about me......... :unsure: [/b][/quote]
SECONDS OUT!!!!!!!!!!

ROUND TWO !!!!!!

DING DING!!!


:popcorn:

SECONDS OUT!!!!!!!!!!

ROUND TWO !!!!!!

DING DING!!!


:popcorn: [/b][/quote]
Well if someone was supposed to contact me and shut me up, they either forgot to or were afraid to. :P

And to do the latter one has to steal content?

As I said before, they can buy content. Or as you said before, use text links.

Let's put it another way ... if one is a businessman, why put their profits in jepeordy unless they are an idiot? A businessman wouldn't. Therefore they're no businessman.

Fuck Dravyk... there you go trying to interject logic into an otherwise great thead! ;-)

I don't give a fuck what any of you think!!!

According to this thread it is still 1998.

It says it is here!!! Look!!! Its 1998



I'm going with that.

This board does not exist..

nah nah nah

Half of you are not even online

ahahahahahahahahaha

SWEEET :)



;-))))

Then no ones thought of skimming.........yet........... :D

Then no ones thought of skimming.........yet........... :D [/b][/quote]
but you can add consoles to your sites that NetPond sends decent toplist traffic to..........

and SykkBoy is the industry's favorite online writer (I wouldn't use the term "journalist")

Then no ones thought of skimming.........yet........... :D [/b][/quote]
errr...no of course not....hasn't been done yet....not at all.

No evil bastard would be siphoning off all the AOL traffic from his free hosts or his links on the hun straight to sponsors , just cause he realised no webmaster used aol and thus he would probably get away with it.

Of course not...never....

wouldn't happen...

same as dynamic webpages for SEs...

naw...


no one would do that.


;-)))))

(whistling innocently and kicking his feet whilst looking heavenward)





hehehehehe



;-))))

YOU FUCKING BASTARD!!! :angry:

I spit my drink all over my god damn monitor!! :lol:

:lol: :lol: