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OK, I did the same quote search in NV with the same parameters. $760 a month was the most expensive with $15 office visits and NO deductibles, no lifetime max. For $228 a month, $2000 deductible, $30 office visits. $5mil lifetime maximums with prescriptions $10 for generic, $25 for name brand. Seriously, when someone in the US tells me they CAN'T afford health insurance, looking at the facts will almost always show they WON'T afford health insurance. :awinky: As with anything, there are exceptions to the rule. If you let your insurance lapse and you have a pre-existing condition you could easily find yourself uninsurable but most states have plans for the high risk pool they offer to cover this group. Many times they don't cover for a pre-existing condition or there is a delay. When I first got an individual policy, the least expensive companies wouldn't ever cover my migraines. BCBS had a 12 month waiting period (for coverage on the migraines only) so even though it was a little more, it was worth it for me to get it and they've been covering my migraine stuff ever since. :) Last edited by Peaches at May 23 2004, 07:10 PM |
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Sorry to hear about that.[/b][/quote] Why would you be sorry? Remember when we played the "how much in taxes do other countries pay" game? I would be paying a LOT more than $282 a month in extra taxes in Australia for my "free" healthcare! :lol: :lol: |
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he didn't have medical insurance BEFORE President Bush took the office ;-))) what an irony! ;-))) |
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You contribute to the medical system here through a levy on your gross income. You would have to have a yearly gross income (after deductions) of well over $200,000 to pay more in taxes for health care here then you (you personally paying $282 a month) do in the US. Last edited by Joe Sixpack at May 23 2004, 04:15 PM |
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Just because the top rate is 45% that doesn't mean you pay 45% of ALL your income in taxes. |
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http://www.ncqa.org/Communications/News/sohc2003.htm Pot meet kettle. |
ah, Joe, sorry you couldn't find retorts to my taking apart your articles
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"OVERWHELMING majority of americans and legal residents have no problems obtaining reasonably priced medical care" - Nothing to be proud of. Other countries do much, much better. "and what it ommits that Americans pay 1/2 of what the rest of the world pays for gasoline" - WRONG! "and what it mits that American tax rates are 1/2 of what the rest of the world pays to cover those 1/2 priced medecine." - WRONG! |
greg, if you make 100k, and are STUPID enough to take it as direct salary income, then you get taxed to shit.
If you get paid dividends, your tax rate (effective) is about 20%. If you make 100k or more a year personally (aside from whatever profit your business makes) you can afford a good accountant to structure things so you don't pay insane levels of tax. It's all in how you do it. Alex |
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"OVERWHELMING majority of americans and legal residents have no problems obtaining reasonably priced medical care" - Nothing to be proud of. Other countries do much, much better. "and what it ommits that Americans pay 1/2 of what the rest of the world pays for gasoline" - WRONG! "and what it mits that American tax rates are 1/2 of what the rest of the world pays to cover those 1/2 priced medecine." - WRONG![/b][/quote] prove it, otherwise your post is as useful as tits on the bull. |
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otherwise your post is as useful as tits on the bull.[/b][/quote] I am currently paying the equiavalent of US$2.40/gallon (AUD$0.90/litre) for fuel in Brisbane. Secondly we pay nowhere near double the taxes you pay. Even the suggestion is ludicrous. You're going to have to try harder Serge! |
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Secondly we pay nowhere near double the taxes you pay. Even the suggestion is ludicrous. You're going to have to try harder Serge![/b][/quote] oh yeah??? what is the highest tax bracket in Australia? (I know, you never been top earner, but can you ask somebody?) |
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what is the highest tax bracket in Australia? (I know, you never been top earner, but can you ask somebody?)[/b][/quote] For an individual, 47 cents in the dollar over $62,500. But nobody with a good accountant actually pays that. Last edited by Joe Sixpack at May 23 2004, 07:45 PM |
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the rate at this salary is only 22% you are right, you pay MORE than double in taxes |
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the rate at this salary is only 22% you are right, you pay MORE than double in taxes[/b][/quote] Serge you are wrong again. It's 25% for $46,875 according to this: http://www.bankrate.com/brm/itax/2004taxrates.asp Also, converting US dollars into Australian dollars without taking into account cost of living is inappropriate. Most people earn much less than that. I have made some calculations for an individual making $25,000 a year. Tax paid in USA: $3400 Tax paid in Australia: $3672 Quite a world away from double the amount. Last edited by Joe Sixpack at May 23 2004, 08:18 PM |
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party drugs are not medecine :) |
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let me do the calcs: $25,000 in US salary, has $5000 deduction for single and 11% tax rate thus the tax is $2200 how the fuck do you calculate US taxes when you don't know shit about USA tax code? ;-))))) |
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let me do the calcs: $25,000 in US salary, has $5000 deduction for single and 11% tax rate thus the tax is $2200 how the fuck do you calculate US taxes when you don't know shit about USA tax code? ;-)))))[/b][/quote] Actually Serge, it's offical. Per capita you are taxed more in the USA than we are in Australia! See for yourself: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_bud_rev_cap :agrin: |
Joe, good URL, bad conclusions
;_)) they show INCOME per capita, NOT taxes!!!! hahahahahahahaha ;-0) did you read the legend? ;-))) |
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On a per capita basis, Americans are taxed MORE than Australians. Remember the day you were owned by Joe Sixpack. It won't be the last. :matey: |
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On a per capita basis, Americans are taxed MORE than Australians. Remember the day you were owned by Joe Sixpack. It won't be the last. :matey:[/b][/quote] ahhh...delusions of Grandeur... are we lookign at the same thing??? Map & Graph: Economy: Budget (revenues) (per capita) (Top 100 Countries) View this stat: Revenues Revenues) (per $ GDP Show map full screen Country Description Amount 1. Holy See (Vatican City) $190450.05 per person 2. Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas) $22312.09 per person 3. Monaco $16122.00 per person 4. Norway $15771.68 per person 5. Pitcairn Islands $15529.44 per person 6. San Marino $14225.25 per person 7. Sweden $13403.79 per person 8. Liechtenstein $12798.31 per person 9. Iceland $12464.47 per person 10. Luxembourg $12110.34 per person 11. Greenland $11456.94 per person 12. Gibraltar $11052.70 per person 13. Belgium $11021.38 per person 14. Faroe Islands $10529.72 per person 15. Saint Pierre and Miquelon $10034.40 per person 16. Denmark $9824.70 per person 17. Germany $9733.20 per person 18. Bermuda $9452.25 per person 19. United Kingdom $9401.83 per person 20. Italy $8689.90 per person 21. Netherlands $8296.95 per person 22. United Arab Emirates $8048.87 per person 23. Ireland $7823.37 per person 24. New Zealand $7389.95 per person 25. Brunei $6981.32 per person |
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26. Finland $6954.63 per person 27. United States $6702.42 per person 28. Jersey $6666.22 per person 29. Man, Isle of $6531.01 per person 30. Austria $6472.72 per person 31. Cayman Islands $6324.22 per person 32. Israel $6294.41 per person 33. Qatar $6119.56 per person 34. Singapore $6053.90 per person 35. Guernsey $5882.62 per person 36. British Virgin Islands $5591.34 per person 37. Andorra $5567.60 per person 38. Canada $5545.35 per person 39. Kuwait $5038.56 per person 40. France $4752.36 per person 41. Portugal $4454.55 per person 42. Australia $4398.94 per person 43. Greece $4219.01 per person 44. Slovenia $4189.74 per person 45. Switzerland $4099.12 per person 46. Svalbard $4091.07 per person 47. New Caledonia $4085.90 per person 48. French Polynesia $3814.97 per person 49. Malta $3746.06 per person 50. Montserrat $3490.82 per person :D |
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have you lost your mind completely? 27. United States $6702.42 per person 28. Jersey $6666.22 per person 29. Man, Isle of $6531.01 per person 30. Austria $6472.72 per person 31. Cayman Islands $6324.22 per person 32. Israel $6294.41 per person 33. Qatar $6119.56 per person 34. Singapore $6053.90 per person 35. Guernsey $5882.62 per person 36. British Virgin Islands $5591.34 per person 37. Andorra $5567.60 per person 38. Canada $5545.35 per person 39. Kuwait $5038.56 per person 40. France $4752.36 per person 41. Portugal $4454.55 per person 42. Australia $4398.94 per person shows that americans earn 50% MORE than australians.... |
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Also, please note that even when you take income per capita into account, you are still taxed more than we are. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_bud_rev_cap Come on Serge where are your maths skills? You can work it out! :D I'm going to bed and will let you ponder your ownage. Last edited by Joe Sixpack at May 24 2004, 05:28 AM |
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Also, please note that even when you take income per capita into account, you are still taxed more than we are. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_bud_rev_cap Come on Serge where are your maths skills? You can work it out! :D I'm going to bed and will let you ponder your ownage.[/b][/quote] Joe, go to bed. You are tired and have no idea what you are talking about. WHY do we look at the SAME PER CAPITA INCOME and I see INCOME while you see...taxes????? You REALLY beleive that Vatican has TAXES????? If you wake up and don't see what everybody see in those stats, I'll pray for you after pronouncing you to be a moron ;_)))) |
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