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pushpills 04-25-2004 10:23 AM

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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 25 2004, 08:26 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 25 2004, 08:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:17 AM
serge you have a real attitude toward me lately, possibly because you made 2.5 percent or less last year on investments, if you are posting a thread that 2.5 is good.
yeah, poor me...
2001 - -2.31%
2002 - -3.92%
2003 - +12.1%
this year - +.88%
and my numbers include:
living expences, taxes, paper losses/gains and represent
PURE NET[/b][/quote]
and after living i made more. it's all relative though, and obviously you are doing well.


2.5, i don't dig it serge, hand me the money on a contract to earn and i take anything over 25% anually. any losses are covered by me plus 10 percent.

pushpills 04-25-2004 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 25 2004, 08:31 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 25 2004, 08:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by -Monk@Apr 25 2004, 09:29 AM
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@Apr 25 2004, 09:26 AM

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/chart...=0&D7=&D6=&D3=0



not sure if that will work if not its rtn 3 yr









serge, factamundo is i make waaaay more than 2.5. this shouldn't be something for you to have a problem with.


that chart shows nothing... you could have bought at 36 and sold at 25... all kinds of charts have periods where they go up and down.... it is where you buy and sell that matters.

Monk,
if he wasn't a MORON,
would he post absolutelly meaningless chart?

but...he IS a MORON and just can't help it[/b][/quote]
well i was specifically talking about 2002, and you have my earnings statement above.


here's a thought, when you aren't enthusiastic about 2.5 percent, then lets start a trading thread.


2.5 percent is something if it is weekly, or monthly even. not yearly. again, I'm a young guy, i'm not interested in my substitance fund or my grand kids yearly zoo pass, i'm interested in multiplying the stack.

Winetalk.com 04-25-2004 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:31 AM

and after living i made more. it's all relative though, and obviously you are doing well.


2.5, i don't dig it serge, hand me the money on a contract to earn and i take anything over 25% anually. any losses are covered by me plus 10 percent.

ahhh, music to my ears...
when can you post 10,000,000 bond?

your guarantees without escrow are as good as sand in the desert.

Monk 04-25-2004 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:35 AM
here's a thought, when you aren't enthusiastic about 2.5 percent, then lets start a trading thread.

we are enthusiastic about 60% returns and a thread HAS ALREADY been started for you to wow us with.

pushpills 04-25-2004 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 25 2004, 08:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 25 2004, 08:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:31 AM

and after living i made more. it's all relative though, and obviously you are doing well.


2.5, i don't dig it serge, hand me the money on a contract to earn and i take anything over 25% anually. any losses are covered by me plus 10 percent.

ahhh, music to my ears...
when can you post 10,000,000 bond?

your guarantees without escrow are as good as sand in the desert.[/b][/quote]
yea i cant post 10 mill bond.


know what i can do? beat 2.5% yearly by a shitload.


that was my sole point in posting in this thread. you can do more with the money, if you cant, i'll do it for you if i get a cut.

Winetalk.com 04-25-2004 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by Monk+Apr 25 2004, 09:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Monk @ Apr 25 2004, 09:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:35 AM
here's a thought, when you aren't enthusiastic about 2.5 percent, then lets start a trading thread.

we are enthusiastic about 60% returns and a thread HAS ALREADY been started for you to wow us with.[/b][/quote]
I am VERY enthusiastic about 2.5% FDIC (not Steve "full of shit moron" Grogan) guaranteed return in LIQUID assests..
the problem is,
FDIC only covers 100k, so to be 100% covered one needs lots of banks and finding them to pay even 2% is a BIG problem nowadays

Winetalk.com 04-25-2004 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 09:41 AM

yea i cant post 10 mill bond.


know what i can do? beat 2.5% yearly by a shitload.


that was my sole point in posting in this thread. you can do more with the money, if you cant, i'll do it for you if i get a cut.

you surelly can...what is the name of your Escrow agent?

as for your beatings of 2.5%,
I am not interested in your doubling your $10 for 100% return
;-)))

my daughter does much better with her $100....
;-))))

pushpills 04-25-2004 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 25 2004, 08:41 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 25 2004, 08:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by -Monk@Apr 25 2004, 09:38 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--pushpills
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@Apr 25 2004, 09:35 AM
here's a thought, when you aren't enthusiastic about 2.5 percent, then lets start a trading thread.


we are enthusiastic about 60% returns and a thread HAS ALREADY been started for you to wow us with.

I am VERY enthusiastic about 2.5% FDIC (not Steve "full of shit moron" Steve "full of shit moron" Grogan) guaranteed return in LIQUID assests..
the problem is,
FDIC only covers 100k, so to be 100% covered one needs lots of banks and finding them to pay even 2% is a BIG problem nowadays[/b][/quote]
yes banks dont want to give you much nowadays....or ever.


take it to the market. people see declining mutual funds and assume there is no decent profit, when a decent in-out portfolio will beat out any loan interest you have and cut you a profit as well.

Winetalk.com 04-25-2004 10:46 AM

Steve "full of shit moron" Grogan,
stick to the bitches topic.

your imbeccil comments about the subjects you have no clue about are finally getting to me.

either post your picks, current position, in the thread allocated to it,
or you'll leave me with no choice but to let you share your wisdom somewhere else.

I have VERY little tolerance for MORONS and I don't give a flying fuck about page views.

pushpills 04-25-2004 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Apr 25 2004, 08:54 AM
Steve "full of shit moron" Steve "full of shit moron" Grogan,
stick to the bitches topic.

your imbeccil comments about the subjects you have no clue about are finally getting to me.

either post your picks, current position, in the thread allocated to it,
or you'll leave me with no choice but to let you share your wisdom somewhere else.

I have VERY little tolerance for MORONS and I don't give a flying fuck about page views.

damn you are easily agitated this morning.



i'll comment on some stocks in the very near future i'll make another thread, lmk about yor stock thoughts, and, more particularly bonds. could be some interesting discussion, surely will net you more than 2.5. in fact, I gaurentee you pick up my suggestions and at the end of the year, it'll average 10 percent at the bare minimum.

Winetalk.com 04-25-2004 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by pushpills+Apr 25 2004, 10:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (pushpills @ Apr 25 2004, 10:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano@Apr 25 2004, 08:54 AM
Steve "full of shit moron" Steve "full of shit moron" Steve "full of shit moron" Grogan,
stick to the bitches topic.

your imbeccil comments about the subjects you have no clue about are finally getting to me.

either post your picks, current position, in the thread allocated to it,
or you'll leave me with no choice but to let you share your wisdom somewhere else.

I have VERY little tolerance for MORONS and I don't give a flying fuck about page views.

damn you are easily agitated this morning.



i'll comment on some stocks in the very near future i'll make another thread, lmk about yor stock thoughts, and, more particularly bonds. could be some interesting discussion, surely will net you more than 2.5. in fact, I gaurentee you pick up my suggestions and at the end of the year, it'll average 10 percent at the bare minimum.[/b][/quote]
in other words,
you do NOT have ANY position in the market at the moment...

don't go looking for the charts to tell me you bought TASR at $4 and sitting on 2000% profit,
I won't buy it,
if you did have a position in the market,
you'd post it by now

pushpills 04-25-2004 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 25 2004, 09:04 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 25 2004, 09:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by -pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 10:00 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Serge_Oprano
Quote:

@Apr 25 2004, 08:54 AM
Steve "full of shit moron" Steve "full of shit moron" Steve "full of shit moron" Steve "full of shit moron" Grogan,
stick to the bitches topic.

your imbeccil comments about the subjects you have no clue about are finally getting to me.

either post your picks, current position, in the thread allocated to it,
or you'll leave me with no choice but to let you share your wisdom somewhere else.

I have VERY little tolerance for MORONS and I don't give a flying fuck about page views.


damn you are easily agitated this morning.



i'll comment on some stocks in the very near future i'll make another thread, lmk about yor stock thoughts, and, more particularly bonds. could be some interesting discussion, surely will net you more than 2.5. in fact, I gaurentee you pick up my suggestions and at the end of the year, it'll average 10 percent at the bare minimum.

in other words,
you do NOT have ANY position in the market at the moment...

don't go looking for the charts to tell me you bought TASR at $4 and sitting on 2000% profit,
I won't buy it,
if you did have a position in the market,
you'd post it by now[/b][/quote]
lol, i'm going to eat soon so i cant get into an hour long discussion, i didnt get up this early for my health.



example: valueclick, october - january good time to buy


all i need is email updates and some quick msn info to know the buy, they bought out cj and then in october, started to close on search123. easy tech info for those into the tech biz.


anyway, about 9.00 at that time, i bought at 9.3, sold at 11, has gone up to 12.5 but i set my goals and sell unless there is good proof it will continue up.


9.3 to 11 is more than 2.5 percent gain from my calculations, and these are the kind of trades i scout out and go after, very easy, 90 percent certain, and decent returns.


you dont have to be warren buffet to clear 50 percent earnings, or 200 percent earnings for that matter (although i have not hit this mark).

Winetalk.com 04-25-2004 11:16 AM

Steve "full of shit moron" Grogan,
I give up on you...
you ARE full of shit

pushpills 04-25-2004 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Apr 25 2004, 09:24 AM
Steve "full of shit moron" Steve "full of shit moron" Grogan,
I give up on you...
you ARE full of shit

well you are wrong serge but no one is always right.



i got into that almost purely on an email update from the se.

the trade made me as much as the years listings did.







like i said i'll gaurentee a 10percent return on my advice assuming you'll shell out decent bond advice.

Winetalk.com 04-25-2004 11:23 AM

adios,
I'd rather read the book than your nonsense

sarettah 04-25-2004 11:30 AM

I love the smell of blood in the morning......




It smells like... Victory.... :okthumb:

pushpills 04-25-2004 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Apr 25 2004, 09:31 AM
adios,
I'd rather read the book than your nonsense

that's harsh to dismiss what you've yet to see (although you have seen some you just claim its bs too so...)


anyway ill post some up and comming picks and will discuss with you if you are interested, also interested in looking at your bond thoughts.



i'm not here to impress you serge, if you think 2.5 percent a year is the best investment since the bread slicer and nothing will convince you otherwise, that's up to you, but to say that others investment ideas are stupid because they are not your own is ludacrist, especially since yours is one of the lowest earning ventures around, I could get 1.6 on a cd, 2.5 is huge? c'mone...it's safe but not very profitable.


you are the retired one not me, as i attempted to state before. i'm not interested in just covering my expenses and keeping the heap. to each their own, but you shouldnt dismiss others aggressive policies just because they differ from your goals.

Monk 04-25-2004 11:58 AM

ludicrist = ludicrous - you, of all people, should be familiar with this word.



Last edited by Monk at Apr 25 2004, 11:07 AM

sarettah 04-25-2004 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by Monk@Apr 25 2004, 11:06 AM
ludicrist = ludicrous - you, of all people, should be familiar with this word.
They don't concentrate much on spelling in the mensa chapter of the De Paul school of Finance (taught in the Gorgon building of course).. :okthumb:

pushpills 04-25-2004 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by Monk@Apr 25 2004, 10:06 AM
ludicrist = ludicrous - you, of all people, should be familiar with this word.
eh, whatever, i'm meeting someone ina few and i dont use spellcheck on msg boards.

i bet you are the same way. :awinky:

Winetalk.com 04-25-2004 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 10:47 AM


i'm not here to impress you serge, if you think 2.5 percent a year is the best investment since the bread slicer and nothing will convince you otherwise, that's up to you, but to say that others investment ideas are stupid because they are not your own is ludacrist, especially since yours is one of the lowest earning ventures around, I could get 1.6 on a cd, 2.5 is huge? c'mone...it's safe but not very profitable.


you are the retired one not me, as i attempted to state before. i'm not interested in just covering my expenses and keeping the heap. to each their own, but you shouldnt dismiss others aggressive policies just because they differ from your goals.

ok,
I'll make it easier for you..
give me investment which will bring 2.5% return in 12 months with:
1) ZERO chance to lose a penny?

2) ZERO risk?

3) 100% LIQUIDITY and is 2.5% AFTER comissions?

if you let me on it in the next 12 hours,
I'll take back everything I just said about you...or keep calling you
"full of shit moron" 'untill you come up with one.

it's YOUR choice now.

chodadog 04-25-2004 10:58 PM

Are there any limitations about putting your money in banks overseas? It's just that here in Australia, you can get about 5 or 6 percent interest, easy. Probably more if you've got a sizeable chunk of change to open an account with.

Joe Sixpack 04-25-2004 11:23 PM

NWS

Trev 04-26-2004 04:28 AM

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Originally posted by pushpills@Apr 25 2004, 03:54 PM
it's all based on the quarterlys and the news hype (and occasionaly email spam pump and dumps that can be quite proffitable if you hear of em).
Email spam!?!?! You risk your money on email spam!

Gimme your email addy, I know a guy that can really hook you up... right Nick :D

Winetalk.com 04-26-2004 05:57 AM

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Originally posted by chodadog@Apr 25 2004, 10:06 PM
Are there any limitations about putting your money in banks overseas? It's just that here in Australia, you can get about 5 or 6 percent interest, easy. Probably more if you've got a sizeable chunk of change to open an account with.
no, there are no limitations for US citizens but....

6% is all nice and dandy but not without the risks.
And the risk is CURRENCY EXCHANGE. I'll have to nuy OZ $$$ to put in OZ bank and who the hell knows where the OZ$ vs US $ exchange ratew will be when I want bring my money back?>

chodadog 04-26-2004 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 26 2004, 02:05 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 26 2004, 02:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--chodadog@Apr 25 2004, 10:06 PM
Are there any limitations about putting your money in banks overseas? It's just that here in Australia, you can get about 5 or 6 percent interest, easy. Probably more if you've got a sizeable chunk of change to open an account with.
no, there are no limitations for US citizens but....

6% is all nice and dandy but not without the risks.
And the risk is CURRENCY EXCHANGE. I'll have to nuy OZ $$$ to put in OZ bank and who the hell knows where the OZ$ vs US $ exchange ratew will be when I want bring my money back?>[/b][/quote]
Ahh, this is true. Didn't really think about it. Heh, if you had of opened a bank account say, 2 years ago, and closed it a month or two ago, you would have made some major bank with the way the australian dollar. Probably about 50%. Of course, this is hindsight, and we all know that's 20/20. But it also illustrates just how easy the currency can change, for better or for worse. It could go the other way just as quickly, i guess.

But i mean, it would be fairly low risk, yeah? Even if the Australian dollar drops 50%, you're still going to be coming out with at least 2.5% or so, right? Pretty nice safety net, if you ask me.

I don't know shit about investing. Just making conversation and looking for some educated feedback.



Last edited by chodadog at Apr 26 2004, 05:01 AM

Winetalk.com 04-26-2004 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by chodadog@Apr 26 2004, 08:00 AM


But i mean, it would be fairly low risk, yeah? Even if the Australian dollar drops 50%, you're still going to be coming out with at least 2.5% or so, right? Pretty nice safety net, if you ask me.

I don't know shit about investing. Just making conversation and looking for some educated feedback.

if OZ dollar drops 50% and you earned 6% you gonna lose 47% of your investment....

if OZ dollar drops 50% and you earn 100% on your OZ investment you STILL gonna lose 30% of your investment due to...income taxes
;-))))

this is reality US investor faces investing in foreign markets
;-)))

chodadog 04-26-2004 09:15 AM

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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Apr 26 2004, 05:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Serge_Oprano @ Apr 26 2004, 05:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--chodadog@Apr 26 2004, 08:00 AM


But i mean, it would be fairly low risk, yeah? Even if the Australian dollar drops 50%, you're still going to be coming out with at least 2.5% or so, right? Pretty nice safety net, if you ask me.

I don't know shit about investing. Just making conversation and looking for some educated feedback.

if OZ dollar drops 50% and you earned 6% you gonna lose 47% of your investment....

if OZ dollar drops 50% and you earn 100% on your OZ investment you STILL gonna lose 30% of your investment due to...income taxes
;-))))

this is reality US investor faces investing in foreign markets
;-)))[/b][/quote]
Oh wow, i can't believe i didn't even realise that. I was just thinking of the return. Anyways, are there banks that would allow you to keep your funds in US dollars?

Winetalk.com 04-26-2004 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by chodadog+Apr 26 2004, 08:23 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (chodadog @ Apr 26 2004, 08:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by -Serge_Oprano@Apr 26 2004, 05:10 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--chodadog
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@Apr 26 2004, 08:00 AM


But i mean, it would be fairly low risk, yeah? Even if the Australian dollar drops 50%, you're still going to be coming out with at least 2.5% or so, right? Pretty nice safety net, if you ask me.

I don't know shit about investing. Just making conversation and looking for some educated feedback.


if OZ dollar drops 50% and you earned 6% you gonna lose 47% of your investment....

if OZ dollar drops 50% and you earn 100% on your OZ investment you STILL gonna lose 30% of your investment due to...income taxes
;-))))

this is reality US investor faces investing in foreign markets
;-)))

Oh wow, i can't believe i didn't even realise that. I was just thinking of the return. Anyways, are there banks that would allow you to keep your funds in US dollars?[/b][/quote]
yes, there are but...they will pay you the US rates as well
;-)

banks are not stupid
;-)))


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