I'm not all that busy so I will respond to you once again, and once again i'll ask you to stay out of my future threads.

First off, I remember you saying you were here before me a long time ago and then someone compared our reg dates and your just like "oh whooops".

Serge probably wouldnt ban you based on my request, but if you stalk me like on gfy I'd bet he would, he's always been a standup guy to me and I can assure you that he's more interested in my success than you pissing with me.


References to your sigwhoring is because that is a great implecation of you being a loser. Posting 2 hours a day for 3k a month is a huge LOSS to any real webmaster.

And I did sell mine last month but didnt request the money till after he cleaned out his paypal account, and it wasnt for self profit, FOR A CANCER CHARITY. And at 100 or so posts a month on gfy, my per post sig value is a good 1500 percent of yours, and he's doubling it for not comming through the other day.

You are more than welcome to try to "beat me up" in florida. I dont go in for the neanderthal retard style competition, if you do attack me it'll just be someone else that beats you senseless, and I will sue you and win on top of that.


If you have any more questions or comments please get them out of the way within the next hour. After that, any posts in my threads I will be considering stalking just like your gfy antics.

One more time, don't stalk me here. Post all you want about me on gfy, stay away from me on oprano.

Now your crossing over the line. Start fucking around on here and showing your GFY side and you will have to cry to Serge to get me to stop fucking with you.

I used Brand0n as an example of how someone got a clue and started to do business. Obviously your the other side of that example.

Take your galleries and go play somewhere else if thats the best you can do businesswise.[/b][/quote]
gonzo once again you are taking my post way too literally. I'm not going to hack serges account. see the winkie smile at the end of that post.


gonz, I really wish you and I could get along better! the issue is one sided, I never insult you and always take your shit with good humor.

stalking? taking over YOUR threads?

are you SURE your name is grogan?!?!?

:blink:

Lets see.... 2 hours a day times 30 days a month = 60 hours

$3000.00/60 hours = $50.00 an hour....

Not a bad part time income.....

Can I stalk you here then...... :yowsa:

last i checked this is a public message board. ill post where ever i want to post. and did i say once that i was going to throttle you? no. i just said that i cant wait to look you in the eyes man to man and see if you are as firm in your convictions.

as far as this board goes. serge has given the right to all of us to post where ever and when ever we want. you say you dont want me in your threads. i say, tuff. live with it. ill post where i want, as long as thats ok with the admins here. and it seems to be so (check with gonz). come to think of it, hows this. seeing you are so die hard to want me out of your threads, now ill make it a point to stop in once a day and reply to them all here. hows that grab ya stevey?

anyways, you have completly destroyed what this intire thread was about.. why dont you scroll back and take a peek for yourself on what you were saying when you 1st posted that, and look now. you have made yourself look like a complete dick all in 1 thread. good job.

my sig my sig my sig. if you could set up a bottle somewhere and every so offten someone walked by and dropped a dime in it, and no one messed with it all day, all you had to do was walk by at the end of the night and collect your bottle.. even if you made a milllion bucks this year, wouldnt you go by and grab that bottle once a day? from a biz sense, i would. same goes with my sig. ill sell it to the highest bidder as long as there is a market. if you dont like that, again. tuff, youll get over it. time heals all wounds

anyways, fuck off kid. cant wait to see ya.

I stalk someone and take over their threads?

Sure, I find you interesting.

brandon,a s far as the title, yes I am going to be a bit differnt to the oprano folks.


but the title didnt imply that I'm going to change my attitude towards you.

you ask me if we can be cool, I say I want nothing to do with you, and what do you do? of course, piss nonstop, what else?


post whatever you want brandon, you are and always will be a loser, and thats not something I wish on you or anyone. In fact, I'll take care of your kids college tuition since everyone deserves a chance.

o you motherfucker. that right there is the last straw for sure....

o you motherfucker. that right there is the last straw for sure....[/b][/quote]
well just for clarification i'm calling you a deadbeat, not saying shit about your kid.

I stalk someone and take over their threads?[/b][/quote]
i'm sure the smart folk around here got the reference :okthumb:

well just for clarification i'm calling you a deadbeat, not saying shit about your kid.[/b][/quote]
just for clarification i hope your lawyer is a fuck of alot better then mine. i have full intentions of watchin you eat those words in many ways. think on that one a few mins burritt

i'm sure the smart folk around here got the reference :okthumb:[/b][/quote]
I think I get it, missinterpreted. (sp)

Wasnt no insult intended.
Im just blunt. No shame in being a gallery poster...

A lot of us have been trying to help you out. You just got the stubborn streak that one of these guys is going to probably beat out of you.

Say did you go to the Brad "little weasel" Shaw School of personal defense?

Rule #1
How to defend yourself from an asswhupping.
Step 1 - Bleed
Step 2 - Sue

just for clarification i hope your lawyer is a fuck of alot better then mine. i have full intentions of watchin you eat those words in many ways. think on that one a few mins burritt[/b][/quote]
I really think you should try to sue me for offering to pay for your kids college. I'm not just interested in drama you see, I love a good comedy.

i'm sure the smart folk around here got the reference :okthumb:[/b][/quote]
FREE STEVE GROGAN!!!

:waves:

Brandon !!

If I may repeat....

Fuggit aboud it.... It ain't worth it....

You've been doing really well dude... Don't drop back like Gorgon boy seems to be....

A ways back, Serge asked us if we could take Grogan (as he was then) and turn him into a regular Opranoid... So, many of us left him alone and let him dig his own hole.... I do believe that later Serge posted that he gave up on it (I could be wrong about that), I do believe most of the rest of us have given up on him reaching maturoty anytime soon and now just use him as a convenient punching bag...

You, on the other hand have shown that you are serious about the biz and have started contributing nicely to our little world here... Keep it up... Ignore the pissant...

As far as doing business with him, haven't you had your share of his arrogance and insolence ?

Wasnt no insult intended.
Im just blunt. No shame in being a gallery poster...

A lot of us have been trying to help you out. You just got the stubborn streak that one of these guys is going to probably beat out of you.

Say did you go to the Brad "little weasel" Shaw School of personal defense?

Rule #1
How to defend yourself from an asswhupping.
Step 1 - Bleed
Step 2 - Sue[/b][/quote]
you gotta stop calling me a gallery submitter gozno, people might believe it!


I did when I was 15 and 16 though, a few g's seemed like a lot of money then.




Gonzo I show alot of restraint about physical fighting, that is for POOR people, I can't stress that enough. I'm 6 four and very fast and my fists are the size of tennis rackets. Fist fighting is for losers though, even the winner is a complete loser....he had bigger muscles and was better at fighting whoaaaaaaaaa now that's a big man.




what was it about our pm's that pissed you off? still a bit cocky sounding?

sarettah, well said. im not going to sink to this guys level. ive done all i could do to avoid this with him, and he takes it to a new level every time. just going to move on and skip over him as you would a peace of chewed on gum you dont want stuck to the bottom of your shoe.

are you going to internext this year sarettah? the company i work for might be throwing one hella party down that way, and if i have my say in the matter, it will have an added class that most of these internext partys miss. im not 100% if its going to happen, but if so, you most defently have an invite if you are going to be there?

Thats a maybe :)

We are planning on being down in Fort Myers to visit the Condo sometime in August. If my daughter goes with me then I won't be making Internext unless it's just a drive by.

If my daughter does not go (big possibillity cause she has all sorts of stuff in the planning and her school starts back up mid-August) then Jen and I might try to make it. If we do, I will be sure to look you up to share a beer or two or three

:okthumb:

and its happening, the only part of this thread that is lacking is responses to brandon, you can't speak english to an indonesian, and you cant speek intelligantly to a moron.


if you think brandon referring you to signupforcash is "doing business" thats your opinion, he has little to nothing to do with the company.



brandon asks me if we can be pals, I say no and stay away from me, he starts up shit, gee i wonder if my decision was a good one maybe we could have made billions together.


I hope he enjoys his leeched attention, there's less than 30 minutes that he's going to get a response from me so he should videotape this, his proudest moment I'm sure.

Now you are making some sense brandon, you show real potential.


One fantastic idea on how to "skip over" me would be not stalking me. When you intentionally follow someone around, it might be hard to skip over them.

No, it's not happening.....

The difference between you when you first arrived and today is nothing more than a change of hairstyle and a little bit of shine taken off of your forehead...

As far as Brandon referring folks to http://www.signup4cash.com , there is nothing wrong with that. He has a job, he is listed on the site. There is absolutely nothing wrong with promoting for a site. Ask KK, CJ, and any of the others that are "employees" in this industry.

Without the folks promoting the programs, the program owners wouldn't be making squat.

We know what Brandon does in this industry. Most oif us still do not have a clue as to what you do (other than that you have a secret, by invitation only, double opt in list of some sort)

Brandon apologized to you and then offered up the possibility of you guys doing some biz together. You spat oin the invitation and then have proceeded to iunsult him at every chance. You even made a post about enjoying kicking a man when he's down.

That makes you nothing more than a regular old assfuck in my book.

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sarettah, I said I didnt want to talk to brandon and HE started talking shit, unfortunately for him this 20 yr old kid does better than he ever will which is more than enough satisfaction for me. affiliate relations or whatever....it DOES sound better than highschool sigwhore, nice twist!


Let just get these quick facts out of the way.......brandon stalks me nonstop to whore his sig, eventually asks me if we can be "cool" and be buds, I tell him I'm not interested at all and to please get outa my oprano chatter, he starts talking shit.


As far as me being different, sarettah, I am. And its only been a day since I posted this thread, my only raw and mean comments were to brandon, well after i told him to just stay away from me.


You sarettah in particular may not like me more in the upcomming weeks, but that is just you. Things will be changing and that's that. As far as my business goes, you don't need to know anything about anything I do, if you want to think of me as a homeless person using a starbucks internet connection, fine, it does not impact my life or my business. At the age of 20 i'm a top mortgage "consultant" (I can't say broker anymore technically) and have my hands in every adult pie I can reach, and it doesn't stop there, wherever money is changing hands, I want in and will get what I deserve.

You can insult me or take brandons side or do whatever you want, the fact is, I told brandon I dont want to associate with him, and I think he's a complete moron. If he can't handle what I think about him, maybe he shouldnt have started stalking me for sigviews if he can't take critisism.

Your facts are fucked....

In Brandon's thread, he out and out apologized... Straight out.

There were no strings attached to that that I can see.

In this thread again he apologized.

Once again with no strings attached.

Both times, you came back with nastiness towards him.

When a man stands up and apologizes, it should be recognized, it does not have to be accepted, you don't have to become buddies, but from a "man to man" point of view it should be recognized and not criticized or insulted. Only a child plays the game of kicking someone when they are down for the mere satisfaction of seeing someone hurting.

Different in your own mind perhaps.

You just don't get it. Your problem has not been raw, mean comments. Your problem has been an overinflated ego that shows through in virtually every post you make. Raw and Mean are one of the original standards of Oprano, but around here, if you're gonna brag, you better have the back up for it and that doesn't mean a little red camaro and a couple of teenyboppers hanging on your arms.

Personally I didn't see any stalking for sigviews going on.
I saw a mature peace offering... and Sarettah put it quite nicely... you spat on it and showed just how pissy you can still be.
Just after you'd gotten done rambling on about how you're not going to be pissy anymore, you're going to be more mature.

And in this thread you've also...
- bragged about how well-off you are
- bragged about your car
- bragged about your physique
- bragged about your mental capacity
- and so on...

Do you not realize that you've just completely disqualified everything you said in the original post? It doesn't matter *who* you were talking to when you did it (and it was not always Brandon), what matters is that you did it right after you said you wouldn't.

It was like "Hey everyone! Look at me! I'm not going to be such an attention-whoring prick anymore! Now watch me shove my foot so far down my throat that I can lick my own ass! You watching? You watching? Huh? Huh?"

Two steps forward and ten steps back man, really. :(

Different in your own mind perhaps.

You just don't get it. Your problem has not been raw, mean comments. Your problem has been an overinflated ego that shows through in virtually every post you make. Raw and Mean are one of the original standards of Oprano, but around here, if you're gonna brag, you better have the back up for it and that doesn't mean a little red camaro and a couple of teenyboppers hanging on your arms.[/b][/quote]
His apologies to me were self serving, just like all his posts related to me are.


I've made it very clear that on THIS board, I just want him to stay away from me, its a real simple request and the only reason I could see it not being honored is that he has to attatch himself to someone who draws attention to feel important.

There's a real simple solution that would be beneficial to both of us, as I'm attempting to fit in a little better and supposively he is as well. The solution? brandon just stays away from me on this board, he can post nonstop about me as usual on gfy, thats up to him. is that childish? i dont want to be friends with him, i dont like him, and I dont want him interrupting my threads.

if he wants to prove to be a big man (without posting his height and weight stats that is) then a great way to do it would to just go about whatever he does without involving me. we have nothing to discuss, no business to do together, and no similarities at all. if he wants to keep getting involed with my threads HERE, then its safe to say he cant live 2 minutes without trying to get attention THROUGH me. I wish him luck and a good life, I really do, I just dont want to involve myself with him on this board, there is no benefit to me whatsoever.

good points, you'll have to give it more than 24 hours,and aside from this thread itself, I have honored my promises.

and as far as brandons sigwhoring based on my name...its not really worth your time to, but if you want, look it up on gfy and even some on here, it'll be as plain as wheat bread.

good points, you'll have to give it more than 24 hours,and aside from this thread itself, I have honored my promises.

and as far as brandons sigwhoring based on my name...its not really worth your time to, but if you want, look it up on gfy and even some on here, it'll be as plain as wheat bread.[/b][/quote]
Shut the fuck up!

Well, apparently we now have "thread ownership" around here (I thought they were all Serge and Mike's threads...silly me)

But if what you say is true then how come you jumped in on Brandon's thread which started this whole stupid thing...

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?a...bdf85f97f9da088

Well, apparently we now have "thread ownership" around here (I thought they were all Serge and Mike's threads...silly me)

But if what you say is true then how come you jumped in on Brandon's thread which started this whole stupid thing...

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?a...bdf85f97f9da088[/b][/quote]
I didnt "start shit" but I shouldnt have said anything in the first place. I do not claim to be perfect.

And in that thread he was once again claiming he has some sort of past/association with me.


Nevertheless, i did mention about his stalking of me, and his trips to oprano seem to oddly coincide with my more frequent posting weeks, just like he oddly enough registered 1 week after i did on my other name, and immediately started talking about me.

What can I say really? Just because he makes some phoney appology then its ok he stalked me all over gfy and made 1000 posts related to me and I should accept it and be his new butt buddy? I dont like him, and it's clear to see.



I WILL be changing a bit in my oprano postings, consider this thread a haven for my abusive and ranting posts. The fact remains, I dont want to be associated with brandon at all, and if he's the big man he claims, he shouldnt have a big problem just forgetting about me and not talking to me or about me or about is "relationship" with me.

Well shit Sare, I thought Confucy had the "thread ownership" thing covered a long time ago... :)

There is an old saying about giving coffee to a drunk ... what you end up with is a wide-awake drunk. Perhaps more relevant in your case - if you get an alcoholic thief sobered up, you will have a sober thief when you are done.

You can change your nick to whatever you want. You can change your postings pattern all you want. You can change the tone of your posts all you want.

It will not help. You can't even seem to get it through your thick little head that asking someone to "stay out of "my" threads" on a public message board is the absolute height of absurdity.

You have Serge convinced that you have potential. The homeless shelters in Chicago are full of people who had potential at your age. If Brandon values his reputation, he WILL avoid having his name associated with yours.

Because, little boy, when you burn out - and you will - I suspect it will be in a most spectacular way. Anybody standing too damned close is likely to get a whole bunch of shit all over them.



Last edited by PornoDoggy at Apr 7 2004, 03:30 AM

oh yes, it will be.

I love good piss fight and enjoy myself watching it.

so far he scored more points:
1) he offered you an olive branch (classy) +1
2) he implied a good beating in Florida (-1)

and you went for "removal" (-1)

Steve, haven't you learned yet that Serge doesn't do requests?

extra point for Brandon.

The charecter I respect the most from the Holy Bible is...
Pilat.
;-))

..and this is why I wash my hands VERY often
;-))))

I'm not all that busy so I will respond to you once again, and once again i'll ask you to stay out of my future threads.

First off, I remember you saying you were here before me a long time ago and then someone compared our reg dates and your just like "oh whooops".

Serge probably wouldnt ban you based on my request, but if you stalk me like on gfy I'd bet he would, he's always been a standup guy to me and I can assure you that he's more interested in my success than you pissing with me.


[/b][/quote]
Steve, asking somebody to do anything, ESPECIALLY staying out of the threads, is inviting the opposite 9 out of 10,
you should know that by now.

The best and ONLY way to keep one out of your threads is to beat them on logic, facts, sense, etc.

Kinda like I beat weasel....I don't edit his posts,
like he did to me and MikeAI,
but he is dead and doesn't venture into my territory,
because he KNOWS I'll squash him like a bug every time he shows up.