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Frank D 03-09-2004 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by OzKaNoz@Mar 9 2004, 09:43 AM
Colin my old buddy is right, it did indeed start at GFY in a July thread started by Andy.

Frank D
Yes Tgp2 is very much alive and well. I've been with it since the begaining.
We are not as vocal about it on the boards as we use to be.
On traffic, sure we are still not seeing the numbers like the tgp sites but it is getting better day by day.

One of our sites http://tgp2traffic.com gets 11k to 30k plus a day and has just had its 3.6 million gallery view last week. There are over 90 Tgp2 sites that use the Tgp2 Traffic rotator and is still growing. The galleries used by the gallery rotator are pull from http://tgp2gallerypool.com after they have been reviewed. Theres about 7k of galleries at any one time with over 60 niches.

We also buy traffic to put into the tgp2 system out of our own pockets. We do retain a high level of bookmarkers also.

With Tgp2 you don't really have to have the huge numbers in traffic to make a sign up. Voltar did a study a while back comparing tgp and Tgp2 gallery conversion and found that Tgp2 galleries can convert at 30 times higher then tgp galleries. Yes that is not a typo, 30 times.
My personal best is 1:25 convertions.

The Tgp2 WebRing is still up and running but no longer has the 400 sites it did have.

With Tgp2, the term "Less is more" still stands true. If it didn't work then we wouldn't have spent almost 4 year doing it.

:awinky:
Oz

So tgp2 movemet is not dead yet.

OkaNoz do you think it would be worth while for a noob to get involved with?

What about someone has been in the game for awhile playing normal tgps?

Please accept my apologizes if I came off as confrontational.

Colin, are you writing some kind of history or something?

OzKaNoz 03-09-2004 07:42 PM

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So tgp2 movemet is not dead yet.

OkaNoz do you think it would be worth while for a noob to get involved with?

What about someone has been in the game for awhile playing normal tgps?

Please accept my apologizes if I came off as confrontational.

Colin, are you writing some kind of history or something?

No not dead yet. I think its great for newbies and old timers both.
I do think newbies should try tgp also just to see for themselves the difference in convertion and click thru ratios.


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Please accept my apologizes
Hey no problem, no offence taken. I'm not nearly as anal about Tgp2 as I use to be.


Colin had a big part in Tgp2 and did many good things for it so he does know his stuff when it comes to Tgp2. I do remember it being more then a few months tho. Back then Colin and I didn't always see eye to eye on things but I still respected him and we were friends.

Oz

the Shemp 03-09-2004 08:06 PM

hehe, TGP hate thread...gee how unusual.
i wonder if any sponsors give out free hardcore content?
maybe free hosted galleries, maybe even free hosting?

jimmyf 03-09-2004 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by the Shemp@Mar 9 2004, 05:14 PM
hehe, TGP hate thread...gee how unusual.
i wonder if any sponsors give out free hardcore content?
maybe free hosted galleries, maybe even free hosting?

ohhhh I say just a few. :rolleyes:

Bishop 03-09-2004 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf+Mar 9 2004, 08:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jimmyf @ Mar 9 2004, 08:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--the Shemp@Mar 9 2004, 05:14 PM
hehe, TGP hate thread...gee how unusual.
i wonder if any sponsors give out free hardcore content?
maybe free hosted galleries, maybe even free hosting?

ohhhh I say just a few. :rolleyes:[/b][/quote]

Next thing they you know someone will be doing that with video.. what is the world coming to. B)

Mike AI 03-09-2004 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by the Shemp@Mar 9 2004, 08:14 PM
hehe, TGP hate thread...gee how unusual.
i wonder if any sponsors give out free hardcore content?
maybe free hosted galleries, maybe even free hosting?

Shemp biz is biz. If I was in your shoes I would not change anything.

Everyone has to do what is in their best interest. Do you have any TGP2 sites or anything? What do you think of the idea?

Hell Puppy 03-09-2004 08:47 PM

TGP is a function of the economy of our industry. Since the dot bomb blew up bandwidth has been cheap with lots of vacancies in some very nice data centers that were built up during the boom. Meanwhile it's tough to get traffic. So what's the easiest way to do it? Give shit away for free.

Current adult internet economy is such that if you're smart and work TGP you can make enough margin even on shitty conversion rates to make bank.

TGP2 and similar efforts will never replace TGP under current conditions. Try it with server rates at 1997 levels....it wouldn't work. However, I only see bandwidth rates falling further.

OzKaNoz 03-09-2004 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Mar 9 2004, 05:55 PM
TGP2 and similar efforts will never replace TGP under current conditions. Try it with server rates at 1997 levels....it wouldn't work. However, I only see bandwidth rates falling further.
Hehe, who ever said we were trying to replace it? Those days are long gone and so far seem to be co-existing just fine.

I don't think any of my Tgp2 folks need to be bashing tgps. From time to time I sound like I am bashing tgp myself but I'm not really. I'm just trying to lay out the fact as they have been reported to me,

Honestly if I was in Shemps shoes I wouldn't change a thing. It works for him as a tgp owner.

I have all the respect in the world for Shemp and the Huns of the internet.
I just honestly know that there is way to much free porn floating a round the internet.

Sure free porn brings in more surfers but most are just freeloaders.

Oz

Hell Puppy 03-09-2004 11:24 PM

Oh, I absolutely agree. If you're making bank under current conditions, you definitely want the status quo. And Shemp is one of the best at it right now. And that's not a knock on Shemp, he's a class act, and one I'm glad to see doing well for himself.

Carrie 03-10-2004 01:18 AM

I was explaining to my mom what TGPs were yesterday. Her response?
"Why the hell would someone want to join a porn site if they can just get it there for free?"
By George, she's got it... now if only everyone else would. :okthumb:

Almighty Colin 03-10-2004 05:56 AM

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Originally posted by Frank D@Mar 9 2004, 06:17 PM
Colin, are you writing some kind of history or something?
Nope. Writing is just an occasional hobby.

Almighty Colin 03-10-2004 06:00 AM

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Originally posted by OzKaNoz@Mar 9 2004, 07:50 PM
I do remember it being more then a few months tho.
Time went by faster in those days.

Mike AI 03-10-2004 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by Colin+Mar 10 2004, 06:04 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Mar 10 2004, 06:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Frank D@Mar 9 2004, 06:17 PM
Colin, are you writing some kind of history or something?
Nope. Writing is just an occasional hobby.[/b][/quote]


This is something you should do Colin. It could make for a good movie one day!

Almighty Colin 03-10-2004 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by Mike AI+Mar 10 2004, 10:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Mar 10 2004, 10:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by -Colin@Mar 10 2004, 06:04 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Frank D
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@Mar 9 2004, 06:17 PM
Colin, are you writing some kind of history or something?


Nope. Writing is just an occasional hobby.


This is something you should do Colin. It could make for a good movie one day![/b][/quote]
Thanks, Mike. It is a great idea and there are certainly some great stories out there . I can think of at least a half dozen people I could get to sue me.

I can't imagine having the patience to work at a full book though.

Mike AI 03-10-2004 10:35 AM

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Originally posted by Colin+Mar 10 2004, 10:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Mar 10 2004, 10:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by -Mike AI@Mar 10 2004, 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by -Colin@Mar 10 2004, 06:04 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Frank D

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@Mar 9 2004, 06:17 PM
Colin, are you writing some kind of history or something?


Nope. Writing is just an occasional hobby.




This is something you should do Colin. It could make for a good movie one day!

Thanks, Mike. It is a great idea and there are certainly some great stories out there . I can think of at least a half dozen people I could get to sue me.

I can't imagine having the patience to work at a full book though.[/b][/quote]


Well if you take enough notes you can write it 10 years from now.

Or you can make one of those fictional stories, and just make up new names and such.

Maybe make it like Adaptation... that would be crazy!

For the record, I think you are a great writer and would be a natural!

OzKaNoz 03-10-2004 04:47 PM

Colin has always written great articles
:okthumb:

Oz

Almighty Colin 03-10-2004 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by Mike AI@Mar 10 2004, 10:43 AM
Or you can make one of those fictional stories, and just make up new names and such.
Fiction? ;-) ;-)

Almighty Colin 03-10-2004 05:41 PM

Thanks, guys. That means a lot to me. :-)

OzKaNoz 03-12-2004 04:31 PM

Sorry Serge
I just hate to see a good thread die.
Don't ban me
:awinky:

Oz

Almighty Colin 03-12-2004 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by OzKaNoz@Mar 12 2004, 04:39 PM
Sorry Serge
I just hate to see a good thread die.
Don't ban me
:awinky:

Oz

Hey, you're supposed to have something useful to say to do that ;-)


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