I wasn't an english major - sue me.

great!!! lemme know when you put your money where your mouth is...or is just rhetoric?

best of luck -
aeon

I put my vote and my money where my mouth is every time there is an election here.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA - honestly...I would have expected a bit more cognitive function.

I would bet john aschroft votes too!

best of luck -
aeon

you're confusing pacifists and liberals. Liberals have been the first to go to war in a just cause, while the conservatives wanted to stay home. After all, Germany was way across the ocean and nothing to do with us.

Hippies have as much to do with most liberals as white supremacists in Utah have to do with most conservatives.

you're confusing pacifists and liberals. Liberals have been the first to go to war in a just cause, while the conservatives wanted to stay home. After all, Germany was way across the ocean and nothing to do with us.

Hippies have as much to do with most liberals as white supremacists in Utah have to do with most conservatives.[/b][/quote]
Not all pacifists are hippies.

Personally, I don't believe there is anything wrong with the view that self-defence (both on a personal and national level) is the only justification for violence.

justify this position...Liberals have been the first to go to war in a just cause eh? Please tell me what a "just cause" is...

and tell me mate - you pick and choose when violence is acceptable to you...tell me - what criteria do you use?

best of luck -
aeon

Actually, I wish Al had saved that kind of activity for the next sorry-ass intellectual lightweight who tried to equate liberalism to a lack of patriotism. Choose your targets wisely ...

justify this position...Liberals have been the first to go to war in a just cause eh? Please tell me what a "just cause" is...

and tell me mate - you pick and choose when violence is acceptable to you...tell me - what criteria do you use?

best of luck -
aeon[/b][/quote]
Just cause? Someone who is a threat to us, our allies, or the world in general, which Saddam was not. He was just another tinpot dictator in a world full of them who had already had his teeth pulled.

My criteria for violence is someone putting hands on me or those I love.

The most obvious case of a liberal "just cause" was, of course, Hitler. Many on the left were ready to come to the aid of those fighting him, if not join in directly, long before the political antecedents of the contemporary neo-cons were forced into war by the Japanese attack and subsequent declaration of war by Hitler.

Then, of course, there is the whole damned Vietnam debacle. The original backers of military assistance to South Vietnam were the much despised Eastern (mostly Catholic) liberals such as the Kennedys.

Most recently, I suppose, would be the mission in Bosnia.

The Bible teaches us that we should love each other. We are all brothers and sisters in one big family with God as our father.

So what do you call someone who hates our President, thinks even third-world countries which desire the destruction of this country are superior to this country, wants to do away with our form of gov't in favor of a Socialist/Marxist/Communist form, and feels that The First Amendment applies only when THEY want to speak?

"When you're runnin' down our country, Hoss, you're walkin' on the fightin' side of me!" :salute: :salute: :salute:



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So what do you call someone who hates our President, thinks even third-world countries which desire the destruction of this country are superior to this country, wants to do away with our form of gov't in favor of a Socialist/Marxist/Communist form, and feels that The First Amendment applies only when THEY want to speak?

"When you're runnin' down our country, Hoss, you're walkin' on the fightin' side of me!" :salute: :salute: :salute:[/b][/quote]
Okay, the first one is a valid question - and I'd call him a right-thinking American. The rest of it is just ... well ... I don't know what the fuck you are taling about. I don't know any people who think third world coutnries are superior to the United States, unless you count Texans; as far as the Socialist/Marxist/Communist crap, pass me a hit of that - it's got to be good shit.

And you, of all people, should know better than to drag the first amnendment into this conversation. I do not believe the government should ban people from stating political opinions merely becasue they are stupid - and that would logically include people who equate liberalism with a lack of patriotism. As a liberal, I feel a certain amount of sympathy for the mentally challenged, even if I don't care much for the ideas they parrot.

Using that logic...most every arabic country there is should be eradicated. Like it or not, Israel is the US's ally...Lebanon, Syria, & Iran are all direct threats to our allie - can you say "glass desert". Wait minute, didn't sadaam start rewarding people that blew up our allie's citizens? - that seems like a pretty fuckin' direct threat to me...

Next kiss North Korea bye - South Korea & Japan are our allies too...the list goes on and on...

I'm starting to like liberals and pacifists more & more :salute:

best of luck -
aeon

Okay, the first one is a valid question - and I'd call him a right-thinking American. The rest of it is just ... well ... I don't know what the fuck you are taling about. I don't know any people who think third world coutnries are superior to the United States, unless you count Texans; as far as the Socialist/Marxist/Communist crap, pass me a hit of that - it's got to be good shit.

And you, of all people, should know better than to drag the first amnendment into this conversation. I do not believe the government should ban people from stating political opinions merely becasue they are stupid - and that would logically include people who equate liberalism with a lack of patriotism. As a liberal, I feel a certain amount of sympathy for the mentally challenged, even if I don't care much for the ideas they parrot.[/b][/quote]
You just don't get it; and you are unteachable. You never bothered to compare the Communist goals to the Liberal agenda, did you? As for not knowing anyone...you are saying that you don't watch TV or read your local Liberal rag? Try listening to your favorite Liberal pols. That might give you an idea why I say this: LIBERALS ARE UNPATRIOTIC AND ANTI-AMERICAN! They are driven by pure hate, and it extends far beyond the Office of The President. Their own words indict them. According to them (one and all), we should immediately surrender our national sovereignty to the UN and confiscate every dime that anyone has over what they set as the poverty level.

BS!

You just don't get it; and you are unteachable. You never bothered to compare the Communist goals to the Liberal agenda, did you? As for not knowing anyone...you are saying that you don't watch TV or read your local Liberal rag? Try listening to your favorite Liberal pols. That might give you an idea why I say this: LIBERALS ARE UNPATRIOTIC AND ANTI-AMERICAN! They are driven by pure hate, and it extends far beyond the Office of The President. Their own words indict them. According to them (one and all), we should immediately surrender our national sovereignty to the UN and confiscate every dime that anyone has over what they set as the poverty level.

BS![/b][/quote]

ahahahaha

Holy shit, someone read some Ann Coulter. Do not even try and deny it sheep, I just finished Treason myself.

Actually, it was the black africans who enslaved their own tribe members (brothers, sisters, children, nieces, nephews, etc etc) for many years before the white man came.
When the white man showed up, they realized they could make a profit by *selling* these slaves, and did so. And continued to enslave more tribesmen to take to market.

It's a tired, old half-assed argument perpetuated by those who don't want to know/remember the truth.

Thats it? That is your fucking argument? That since we had to buy a nigger from another nigger, that some Americans did not enslave them... since they were already enslaved when purchased?

Seriously, you need to be drug into the street and shot. What a fucking idiot.



Last edited by [Labret] at Jan 28 2004, 04:28 PM

can you make a post in ANY thread without "drug" reference?

are you THAT junkie????

One forgets that most countries had African slaves. In fact, the colonists of America were merely continuing what they were taught in their homeland of Britain, who had African slaves since the 1500's. :rolleyes:

In fact, Ireland - where you claim a desire to flee to - started having African slaves in the 9th century.

As far as the Indians, let's not forget that humans, like every other living creature on this earth, takes over by force an area which they want to live in. Again - this has been going on for millions of years - it didn't start with America. :okthumb:

I still think it's funny that you've spent so much time in America while professing to dislike everything about this country, lol! It's even more comical that the faults you find with America are faults most countries have. :P

For Carrie its a matter of who enslaved the nigger first. For Peaches its a moot point because other people enslaved as well.

Thats it? Seriously, thats all you two dumbfucks could put together?

You are right you two, its ok because the Irish did it in the 10th century (according to professor peaches), and because we bought them "pre-owned" so to speak.

You both are proof that there is no God.

Nah - we basically merely proved that 99.999% of the people around the world since the beginning of time tend to do as adults what they raised as kids to do. :P

I'm surprised you haven't realized that, being such a grand sociology master! :unsure:

Slavery is GOOD...my people were enslaved by the Egyptiand 5000 years ago and look at us now
;-)))

My most favorite slave is Labret,
he is working his ass off on Oprano seeking God....at ZERO cost....

too bad he'll never have children due to horse accident and I won't get any more slaves from Detroit
;-((((

Why, [labert], didn't you know that the whole idea that slavery was an abomibnation is all liberal media lies put out by Jews? I mean, it has to be Jews, because I know you have posted "proof" that Jews control the media in the past...

There is something terribly American about a Northern anti-semite lecturing cracker ladies about race ... odd, and pathetic, but terribly American.

Fuckin Jews.

Were you a goth kid by chance? Misunderstood in highschool? Femi?

Foreskin too tight LeBrat?

Fuckin Jews.

Were you a goth kid by chance? Misunderstood in highschool? Femi?[/b][/quote]
Once again, you demonstrate your total ignorance...
Pd is somewhat younger than I; but when he was a kid, Goth was just part of the word Gothic (as in architecture or fonts).

Re: Slavery...
America was the leader in ending slavery after existing for only about 75 years. If you give no credence to that, you are either stupid or stupid.

:okthumb:

I never said slavery wasn't an abomination.
I merely pointed out the glaring flaws in the old insult that Americans owned slaves. It's thrown around constantly like we're the ones that invented the whole idea; we're not.

And for people who CLAIM to have a "world view", it's very funny how they continually overlook the fact that the blacks still living in Africa are still running around half-naked, starving, dying of thirst and disease, uneducated, and basically are still stuck at the cultural level that they were 250 years ago when Americans started bringing them here.
Compare that to the blacks living here in America and tell me that in a "world view", the ones in Africa are better off. You're full of shit.

What's with your command of the English language? Stuck on drugs? The proper word in that context would have been 'dragged'. So much for your claims of a super education...

:okthumb: :okthumb: :okthumb:

Add to that that slavery still exists...In Sudan!



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Fuckin Jews.

Were you a goth kid by chance? Misunderstood in highschool? Femi?[/b][/quote]
Was I a goth kid in high school? No ... as Torone pointed out, there was no such critter when I was in high school. As a sociologist, I realize you need a label ... so I guess I was a hippie. Remember, now, this was 1967-1971, so this was the FIRST time around, not some retro pseudo wannabe.

That America was the leader is debatable ...I believe some European nations had done away with it before we did.

Of course, treating the end of slavery in 1865 as anything more than a superficial event is senseless.

Slavery was around since day 1 on Earth. Why should the United States be singled out? What makes our slavery any worse than the slavery in Africa or Asia or Europe?

How come you leftist bitches don't whine about the slavery that existed in France?

Labret, when the fuck are you leaving for good? My guess is that you're just another Alec Baldwin, promising to get the fuck out, but without enough honor to keep your word.

Don't be silly - don't you realize that even Labret knows that the US is the best place for him to get an education? Don't forget how he goes on and on ad nauseam about how smart all his professors are, lol! After all, he claims that school is the only reason why he's staying here. Amazing that this horrible, terrible country has the ability to offer up such great educational opportunities that even someone who claims they hate the US is forced to stay here. :P :P

I think I've realized why he's so angry all the time - if his hypocrisy is so obvious on this board, can you just imagine how he must be fighting himself inside his own head over it? :(

Uhm, that is what Carrie and Joe were talking about. Forgive me for staying on topic, bad habit I know.

Where did I say it was?

Again, I could have sworn the topic was American slavery and Carries theory of pre-owned nigger marketing.

I guess the answer I have given 15 times before has not been sufficient. Sometime after May, probably around September.



Last edited by [Labret] at Jan 29 2004, 12:03 PM

You hear that you ungrateful niggers, Carrie says you should be grateful we rescued you from that hell hole called Africa. Never you mind Jim Crow and slavery, just be glad you are not still in your homeland. Slavery was redemption.

Cultural level, stuck at. ahahahahaah there is nothing quite as tasty as a big cup of ethnocentrism in the morning.

So tell me more about this "cultural level" theory. One can actually rank cultures on a scale? And some are better than others?



Last edited by [Labret] at Jan 29 2004, 12:26 PM

Actually I have heard thousands of blacks (in person, on the radio, on TV, in newspapers, magazines, etc.) say that they are much better off today than they would have been had their ancestors stayed in Africa. Many of them would actually still be slaves in Africa.

Not everyone is as determined to think only the worst as you are, sweetie. :awinky:

You silly bitch, I am not an angry person. Ask anyone who has met me, I guess I need to abuse animated gifs more?

Hypocrisy? I dont hate America, I hate Americans. This place would not be so bad if most of you would just... die. My desire to leave does not come from a hatred of this country per se, I just find its inhabitant intolerable and life is far too short not to travel the world. You are happy with getting knocked up and living like a hillbilly, some of us are not content to sit and waste our lives away. I do not want to regret my life like you obviously regret yours. Old white woman who sits on a board with pornographers all day while your children flee from you. I do not envy you, but you made your bed, you lie in it.

See, I am not angry -> :yowsa: :yowsa: :nyanya: :bdance: :okthumb: :stout:



Last edited by [Labret] at Jan 29 2004, 12:43 PM

ahahahah yeah right.



Last edited by [Labret] at Jan 29 2004, 12:42 PM

Labret.....

Simplar question, what fucking planet are you from ?

:okthumb: