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kath 10-30-2003 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wizzo@Oct 30 2003, 08:57 AM
Results.... Results.... Results.... There's very few employees in this business that would fall in the "intrinsic value" category. Most everyone's work can be judged on some type of performance basis..

If they produce, do their job well and surf ESPN or whatever.... Great!

If they don't produce, Surfing or Not... Fire their Ass... At the very least, it might keep other employee's on their toes...

:)

Exactly. Brad said from the very beginning that stuff wasn't getting done. The ESPN thing - although probably part of the problem - isn't the whole problem.

<_<

SweetT 10-30-2003 02:41 PM

OK...so lets change it up a bit and see how you handle this one....


You have a programmer....you walk into his office and he is at (oprano/gfy/ynottoppond).com ??? What do you do now??

Discuss amongst yourselves :blink:


--T

Peaches 10-30-2003 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SweetT@Oct 30 2003, 03:49 PM
OK...so lets change it up a bit and see how you handle this one....


You have a programmer....you walk into his office and he is at (oprano/gfy/ynottoppond).com ??? What do you do now??

Discuss amongst yourselves :blink:


--T

Give him a raise for being proactive enough to keep up with what's going on with the industry. :okthumb:

Mike AI 10-30-2003 02:47 PM

Funny how this is the only industry we REQUIRE people to be surfing porn!! We need a reverse porn filter - if they are not looking at porn, they need to be disciplined!!

:rokk:

Richard N. Bush 10-30-2003 02:51 PM

If they are a programmer I use for coding adult stuff, then by all means they should feel free to read the boards. Heck, they can make it their home page as far as I'm concerned! :)

VooMan 10-30-2003 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SweetT@Oct 30 2003, 02:49 PM
OK...so lets change it up a bit and see how you handle this one....


You have a programmer....you walk into his office and he is at (oprano/gfy/ynottoppond).com ??? What do you do now??

Discuss amongst yourselves :blink:


--T

Update: If ya'll see me posting here a lot, you'll know why.... :)

(hidden text: Peaches, the check is in the mail)

hahaha

kath 10-30-2003 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI@Oct 30 2003, 11:55 AM
Funny how this is the only industry we REQUIRE people to be surfing porn!! We need a reverse porn filter - if they are not looking at porn, they need to be disciplined!!

:rokk:

Definitely!!! Down with those non-porn sites! What's the world coming to? ESPN... CNN.... *shudder* How sick! lol

:groucho:

BradShaw 10-30-2003 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SweetT@Oct 30 2003, 11:49 AM
OK...so lets change it up a bit and see how you handle this one....


You have a programmer....you walk into his office and he is at (oprano/gfy/ynottoppond).com ??? What do you do now??

Discuss amongst yourselves :blink:


--T

I do not care for my staff to read the boards. But I have not laid down the laws on that yet. I figure if you are not a marketing person or exec, reading the boards daily is a waste of time.



Last edited by BradShaw at Oct 30 2003, 12:57 PM

Dravyk 10-30-2003 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SweetT@Oct 30 2003, 02:49 PM
You have a programmer....you walk into his office and he is at (oprano/gfy/ynottoppond).com ??? What do you do now??
If a programmer sees what new things came out of your competition or things people are asking for to be programmed, more power to him.

If he's only reading who Boneprone did this week ...

If he's slacking in those "results" there's one answer. If he's coming up with new ideas or competing ideas to create, again, there's another answer.

Bex 10-30-2003 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw+Oct 30 2003, 12:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BradShaw @ Oct 30 2003, 12:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--SweetT@Oct 30 2003, 11:49 AM
OK...so lets change it up a bit and see how you handle this one....


You have a programmer....you walk into his office and he is at (oprano/gfy/ynottoppond).com ??? What do you do now??

Discuss amongst yourselves :blink:


--T

I do not care for my staff to read the boards. But I have not laid down the laws on that yet. I figure if you are not a marketing person or exec, reading the boards daily is a waste of time.[/b][/quote]
For sure! Some people NEED to keep up on what is going on, and others do not.

Dravyk 10-30-2003 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw@Oct 30 2003, 03:56 PM
I do not care for my staff to read the boards. But I have not laid down the laws on that yet. I figure if you are not a marketing person or exec, reading the boards daily is a waste of time.
Do you still allow breathing in the office, Brad? :P

Danny_C 10-30-2003 04:03 PM

I'd at least pick a better site. All sports are dull other than boxing, and there's only so much reading you can do about that.

JR 10-30-2003 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw@Oct 29 2003, 06:55 PM
And their computer is on espn.com, what do you do? If they are not getting their shit done, yet have time to read espn.com at work? Of course this is purely hypothetical!

Think I am going to remove net access in the sweat shop.

we just set up the firewall and permissions so that certain employees only have limited and select access to the web and messengers. it made a big difference. suddenly people had nothing to do but work. :)

gregtx 10-30-2003 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bex+Oct 30 2003, 08:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bex @ Oct 30 2003, 08:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--BradShaw@Oct 29 2003, 07:07 PM
I have never had a problem with people checking personal email, a little surfing. Believe it or not I am reasonable. I am very hands off, I only care about the final product for the most part. Make me $.

But if someone is not getting shit done, and surfing, makes me think....

Brad ... this was definately something that I stuggled with as well. My basic policy was that if someone was getting done what I thought they needed to then basically they were able to surf pretty much what they wanted when they wanted (to a maximum of course).

But if someone was behind in work, and taking too many breaks etc. I would get on their ass. If the situation did not improve, fire them. Seemed to work for me anyhow.

Good luck with your situation.

And Greg ... just stop surfing ESPN so much and all this can be avoided. :groucho:[/b][/quote]
what is espn.com???

:awinky:

Hooper 10-31-2003 12:51 AM

both Nicolo Machiavelli and Sun Tzu would say that you need to (and i am paraphrasing here) fire him loudly and in front of everybody, perhaps during a company meeting.

I think sun tzu literally said to cut off his head and machiavelli probably would have cut his head off just for thinking about surfing espn.



Last edited by Hooper at Oct 31 2003, 12:59 AM

Rolo 10-31-2003 04:13 AM

Could also hire Terry Tate - Office Linebacker:

http://www.terrytate.reebok.com/

B)

Billy 10-31-2003 09:26 AM

Greg.. I said I would not do it again, can we just leave it at that ??

Please talk to Brad : )

After all I did for him in Cabo you would think he would give me a break!

Evil Chris 10-31-2003 12:32 PM

MikeFold makes sense when he says that an intermediary (if they exist) should address these kinds of problems. Chain of command works wonders when it's maintained properly.

I'd have no problem with someone checking sports scores etc on a daily basis as long as quotas are being met and work is being done on time. If not, then there is a problem obviously.


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