Actually, i have no idea about this issue. thats why i am trying to read about copyright law right now. a lot of interesting questions, a lot of gray areas as well.

I am willing to pay some legal fees if you are. No biggie. It's difficult to believe that you would decide to bring in attorneys. it should be pretty funny none the less. I may just defend myself out of boredom and to prove I can. That would be a good Oprano show for the boys. :)

The best part is that GFY will have a field day with this one. I may create a whole site and dedicate it to you now. Please do yourself a favor when you sue me and send me high quality scans of all legal documents as well... you know, so that you are comfortable with the quality and accuracy of the info that will be helping to wind down your career in adult while i keep making fun of you on the Internet.

ahhhhh.... the dangers of parody and sarcasm.

i will glady suffer for my art as alll the great ones did.

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i can't find that info anywhere and there clearly seems to be some confusion on the matter. can you please show me where it says that in the lawbooks?

why is an image "copywrited"

why can Hustler print a pic of Jerry Falwell and make a parody ad... but doing that with Alex is not ok?

Alex do you think you are closer to God than Jerry Falwell? i am not following you at all here.

"Colin: Nice address. Does Tocows know that your registration info isn't right on Pleasurelabs (US phone number Isle of Man address?). "

I'd consider that an implied threat and you were kind enough to address it to me. Let's not get all the way to three strikes and you're out.

Alex, dont mess with this guy. He has a degree in physics from Yale... and a sharp sword. ... a bad, bad combination of knowledge and ability.

http://www.pleasurelabs.com/pics/colin_pornographer.jpg

JR, apparently everything you know about copyright is located in a small piece of crud under your big toe. (oh yeah, bitching about spelling shows that you have no real arguement here... just trying to play BS games to distract from the issues at hand... whatever!)

You can do parody all you want - providing you have the RIGHTS to use the image. Hustler can parody Fallwell in images because they have obtained the rights to use the basic image, they didn't just crop it out of a newspaper and fuck with it.

You cannot use images that you do not have the rights for. The original artist that took the picture, plus anyone appearing in that image for which you do not have commercial rights can take action, from what I understand.

You don't have the rights to use the image from Cleos, and she has posted such. You are in violation of her copyright on that image. You have broken copyright law. Don't think so? Ask you lawyers. No grey there.

More importantly, ask them about slander and libel, and how comments made that you are intending to drive me out of business would show that your intent is not parody, but rather to harm, to limit business, and otherwise affect my livelyhood. That's not parody.

Alex

Jerry Falwell gave Hustler Magazine to do a parody ad about him? uh... er.... uh.... hahahahahhahaha


i wont drive you out of business Alex, you dumb fucking drama queen. only your absurd antics can do that. but if you want to go the distance, i can make it pretty comical as well.

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don't you worry,
I'll put you ALL out of business by Monday
;-))

whom should I start with?

Alex looks like an easier target
;-)))

BTW,
Alex, your knowledge of copyrights/parody laws are practically NON EXISTANT...

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Last edited by RawAlex at Oct 7 2003, 11:14 AM

I'd love to hear the Judges remarks who was asked to hear this case.


LOL

as Serge pointed out there still seems to be a great deal of confusion on this issue.

are you sure your right? do you own an image just because you are in the pic? what about celebrities? do they own every pic taken of them? if i take a pic at a football game, do i need a release from 65,000 people before i can post it on a messageboard? what is "Fair use" - what role does parody play in all this? does the law address this? Jerry Falwells pic is not used for commercial promotion in that example and neither is yours. i really dont understand any of this.

please educate me about copyright law.

hehe... too late.

Alex just attempted to destroy evidence.
:(

JR, I am not a lawyer. I won't do your legal work for free.

Being in the content part of the business, I think you would be better versed in model releases, commerical and non-commercial use of images, public event images, etc. The images you are using do not have model releases, I gave no commercial or resale rights to the photographer. If they sold you the image, they have done so without a model release (and a model release ain't just to prove age, it is a grant of permission for use of likeness). If you are using it without compensation to the copyright holder, you are in violation of their copyright.

I removed all other posts I made from this thread, although the entire thread is archived.

I have nothing more to add to this thread.

Alex



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any more?

you NEVER had anything to add of value to begin with,
besides your misunderstandings of the copyright laws...

I am jealous JR, when are you going to do some of my photos?!?!?!

Alex, I'll fight JR in court with you! JR did NOT have my permission use my body like that.

well, i think an apology from you would be appropriate.

"model"?

Buuzzzz. Wrong answer!

I'm not a lawyer either, but ...

- Yes the clips of people's faces on Hustler's Asshole of the Month feature came from whatever was handy (and I think there is court precedent on this one too, btw)

- 32 years of cut out newspaper photos on the Weekend Update report on Saturday Night Live.

- The edited mix of real news interviews with their own comic reporters on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.

... Eh, I had more, but that's enough examples.

Drav, all good points
;-)))