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Kimmy, you and Brad are both from the old school: "I like to see my name in print, good or bad news...doesn't matter, just mention my god damn name!"
I am being a good confucy, and I won't be going down that path that leads to drinking and fucking indiscrimately. We all have our weaknesses, now don't we Kimmy? Do you think your posts are stunning examples of newsworthy gems? Fuck No, KK! I am taking none of your MEDS. I am free of everything except a few vitamins. I was kidding about the wine! I hate it. I don't drink, don't do drugs, don't smoke regular cigarettes, but have been known to try MJ with friends. I am clean as Billy Graham's liver! Take me as I am, sweety, or forever ignore me! Your little swipes at me are more boring than my posts. Chill out. :zzz: Back to Gary, is anyone going to his birthday party? I think it will be more fun if held in SF. That house of his has too much bad karma and history! |
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funkadell1: tell me about what the Aussie comment ment so I can post the real story Gkremen: Bunch of Assie (good guys) - scammed by running programs and not paying affiliates as well as double billing If you are not a scammer then you shouldn't be worried about his comment right? Brush it off and be glad you don't fall into that category because we all know scammers suck. There is WAY to much time and effort spent on "If I owened Sex.Com I would...", "In the old days I...", and "Gary this..Gary that"--from an outsiders point of view it can be quite comical because the truth is...it's NOT you're company, These AREN'T the old days, and you should be concerned with MAKING MONEY with your own biz and not someone elses. Gary put that points of good biz out in good faith and the best intentions. The way that a huge thread of bitching and whining to come out of it is an example of a HUGE waste of time that could be spent helping to make each other money as well as yourself. It's time to move forward and work together...this biz ain't getting any easier... Peace, Mike |
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if gary doesn't want so much half correct/half wrong information floating around about him, he should drop by and defend himself!! come on over gary, don't send spin control instead ... :okthumb: |
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Gonna come on in and protect poor poor Gary cause we're picking on him eh..... lololol....... When Kremen has made as much money in this business as most of the folks on this board, then I will listen to him when he spouts off about how this business should be run.... When Match.com got sold out from under him for several mill how much did he come out with... 50k is the figure I think I remember.... When Kremen shows he knows how to run a business then he can tell people how to run theirs..... Until then..... Don't let the door hit you in the ass... ya know.... :yowsa: edited to add... also, if you think 41 posts to a webmaster thread is a HUGE thread, then you aint seen nothing yet.... Shit this was merely water cooler talk in this industry.... Last edited by sarettah at Sep 12 2003, 06:54 PM |
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went and played with sex.com for a sec.... results for a search on Gary Kremen: "Searched for gary kremen ... Nothing was found, please try these ... The Best Gary Kremen Site! $1.95 - 3Day Trial Great Gary kremen movies, 100,000 hardcore videos, 80,000 pictures, live sex shows, unique adult services. The Net's highest rated adult member's club." lololol........ I guess if they actually ran a SEARCH bot of some sort, they might actually have some results that were pertinent..... That search should have brought up something in the daily.sex.com (news sections) or the webmaster.sex.com (webmaster resources) or it should have brought up this page from their site: http://press.sex.com/ which starts with this sentence: "Gary Kremen, owner of the domain name Sex.Com, has over fifteen years of " results for Oprano: "Searched for oprano ... Nothing was found, please try these ... The Best Oprano Site! $1.95 - 3Day Trial Great Oprano movies, 100,000 hardcore videos, 80,000 pictures, live sex shows, unique adult services. The Net's highest rated adult member's club" And this ad at the top of the home page REALLY REALLY helps our industry, don't ya think: "Napster Of Porn - FREE! - Don't pay for porn when you can get it for Free" Also...how come when I go to the front page I don't get ANY kind of warning that I am entering an adults only area ??? I realize that I won't find content till I actually search for something, but wouldn't you think a site that advertises itself as "Sex.Com is the global leader in the Internet search engine space." actually lead the way in guaranteeing the safety of minors when they are surfing the web.... Also, GLOBAL LEADER IN THE SEARCH ENGINE SPACE ???? You guys are beating Google these days ?? sheez................ |
ok... not to beat a dead horse here...but, I'm gonna anyways......
I did some searches for some fairly common terms: Tiny Titties.. nothing was found Petite titties.. nothing was found so I did titties.... It found 5 or 6 pages..... at the bottom of page 2, in one of the descriptions I found "Juicy Pussies and Perky Tits"... so I went back to the search bar and type in perky tits... comes back as nothing found ..... tried again with "perky Tits" (inside quotes for an exact match) comes back as nothing found.... They dont even parse out the descriptions of the pages they list ???? So lets see, you pay to be listed and if someone types in a match to the category you listed under you will pop up ?? That is called a Linklist guys, not a search engine..... a search engine would give you something like this: google: Searched the web for tiny titties. Results 1 - 10 of about 192,000. Yahoo: TOP 20 WEB RESULTS out of about 70,600 Lycos (with a warning that I had entered an adult term...nice touch Lycos :okthumb: ) WEB RESULTS: Showing Results 1 thru 11 of 51,412 () Those are search engines..... SEX.COM IS NOT A SEARCH ENGINE by any stretch of the imagination.... |
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Hit the amateurs category and just clicked on the first link.... got hit with a dialer downlaod and when I said no, it forced me to a box with only one choice of yes.... So, I had to kill my browser to avoid dling the dialer... Nice way to treat the surfers.... (and yes I realize it was an advertisers site but it goes in contradiction to what I read on the advertisers rules and what Gary preaches).... Quote:
which in reality is just another form of banner farm, without the banners... When you guys come up with an ORIGINAL concept... Or a model that will actually make some cash for you or us, let us know.... Until then, as I said.... Don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out...... :yowsa: edited in: Also, I just reread Gary's little list of rules on how to run a successful paysite.... What paysites has Gary been involved in building that he knows how to run one ? (serious question there) Last edited by sarettah at Sep 12 2003, 08:34 PM |
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funkadell1: tell me about what the Aussie comment ment so I can post the real story Gkremen: Bunch of Assie (good guys) - scammed by running programs and not paying affiliates as well as double billing If you are not a scammer then you shouldn't be worried about his comment right? Brush it off and be glad you don't fall into that category because we all know scammers suck. There is WAY to much time and effort spent on "If I owened Sex.Com I would...", "In the old days I...", and "Gary this..Gary that"--from an outsiders point of view it can be quite comical because the truth is...it's NOT you're company, These AREN'T the old days, and you should be concerned with MAKING MONEY with your own biz and not someone elses. Gary put that points of good biz out in good faith and the best intentions. The way that a huge thread of bitching and whining to come out of it is an example of a HUGE waste of time that could be spent helping to make each other money as well as yourself. It's time to move forward and work together...this biz ain't getting any easier... Peace, Mike[/b][/quote] Ulimike.... get back in your box and send the boss... You are one of the team of dead weight minions that eats up the money. Quote:
I am just an Aussie recycling the line that Gary doesnt know dick all about running sex.com... And btw.. get a clue.. this has wasted 3.5 mins of my time... its only your time being wasted watching it 24/7.. Next time Gary thinks about doing something in good faith HE should spend his time making money rather than trying to feed his own ego with useless bullshit articles telling newbies to shun Australians! Come out Gary.... Tell us what you really think of Aussies? Or do you only have the guts to write your bullshit and make no response at all? maybe your plebs can translate this into something meaningful... But it sounds like you have NO IDEA what your mouth is flapping about to me! Quote:
And btw ullimike... if this is meant to suggest I am may be a scammer.. "If you are not a scammer then you shouldn't be worried about his comment right?" You better re-think posting ANYTHING to me again! Last edited by Opti at Sep 13 2003, 11:39 AM |
"Gonna come on in and protect poor poor Gary cause we're picking on him eh.....
lololol......." I don't care if you pick on him...just makes you look jealous & un-professional. "When Kremen has made as much money in this business as most of the folks on this board, then I will listen to him when he spouts off about how this business should be run...." If you have made so much money then why are you concerned w/ a small time guys like Gary? "When Match.com got sold out from under him for several mill how much did he come out with... 50k is the figure I think I remember...." AGAIN...Why do you care? "When Kremen shows he knows how to run a business then he can tell people how to run theirs..... Until then..... Don't let the door hit you in the ass... ya know...." No prob...I'm out...that kind of pompous attitude is the only reason that I posted...to let you know it sucks. "edited to add... also, if you think 41 posts to a webmaster thread is a HUGE thread, then you aint seen nothing yet.... Shit this was merely water cooler talk in this industry...." It's 41 posts too much for such a ridiculous topic. |
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Trying to make something out of nothing is pretty funny on your part, and your little tiny digs are pretty weak these days, though your newfound obsession, and attempt to identify with Brad, is quite comical at best. I don't do meds, I don't do drugs, hell you can ask Brad that, he'll tell you. And fucking in one's own bed with the person you live with is hardly indiscriminate now is it... Why didnt you mention your birthday was this week sweetie, I'd have sent you a Yahoo card. |
KK, the last thing I would do is announce my birthday on the internet. What's so great about being born? I will leave birthdays to you and Kremen. The two of you need excuses to gather your friends around you. I
Now if you are referring to the birth of *confucy*...that's a whole different story. I will celebrate that birthday. That would be something akin to having a yearly party for Mikey Mouse or Batgirl....characters made up by their bi-polar creators. By the way, you can always send me a belated card. confucy@errata.to :bwave: Never thought I was identifying with Brad, but then we do have several things in common. 1. both banned from GFY 2. both attacked by KK 3. both drive sportscars 4. both have caught big fish in the month of Sept 5. both have seen the dentist for some beauty work 6. both preparing for weddings 7. both hate the Texas heat 8. both get bored easily 9. both play on the boards 10. both have successful paysites 11. both are followed by KK 12. both are loved by Serge 13. both have great content 14. both love the outdoors 15. both own guns 16. both have zero tolerance for board idiots 17. both answer to the tunes in our heads 18. both have fought with FM 19. both are concentrating on non-porn businesses 20. both are bi-polar according to JR's definitions How's that, KK. :gbounce: |
Of course it's still funny as hell that when I tell you I'm pushing your buttons you still can't stop me from pushing them.
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Just so you know, if you had come in nicely, instead of on the attack, I wouldn't have bothered with my several posts "reviewing" sex.com. Then you went on and tried to tell us how we should be spending our time and what we should be talking about.... Most of the folks that post here have made a bunch of money in this business, I am an exception as I am a newbie more or less and I am in it for totally different reasons... They do not need you telling them how to spend their time or what they should talk about.... and it was very fucking pretentious of you to come in and do that... Quote:
Gary is a newbie to this side of the business world.... It's a totally different game and he should learn how it is played before trying to sit up there and tell folks what the rules should be.... Gary, if you are reading this... Get on over to vnwr.com... Tell Voltar that I sent you... He'll show you how to set up a site to actually make some bucks on the adult side...... Ullimike..... When you can post your own thoughts instead of the crap that you think makes you look good in front of Gary, then come on back and maybe we'll play with you..... :yowsa: Last edited by sarettah at Sep 12 2003, 11:45 PM |
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I overstated this a bit... There are some good common sense things that Gary put in that article... Yes, you should always stay within the lines of legality, I do not condone illegal content, illegal marketing tactics or any of that... and I would not argue that anyone should do any of the more unethical things that the cockholsters do... That is pure common sense... |
Sarettah, threads aren't staying on subject this week. KK and I have our own thread within your thread. It must be the full moon. Hope you don't mind.
I love sex.com topics. I learned new things today. We need the Cohen friend who was a big poster on the non-threaded Oprano. Jack was his name, I think. As I said somewhere this week, I would love to interview Cohen. I don't like what he did, but he is a true SOCIAL ENGINEER. Mitnick likes to think he is the expert at convincing people to believe him, but if you talk to him and hear his voice, he sounds like a stuttering kid. His voice goes up and down, and he is not believable. The only thing Mitnick has going for him is that he doesn't give up. That is why he was happy late at night typing in password after password trying to break into someone's system. Mitnick never forgets a phone number once he has dialed a it. The same thing probably holds true once he has punched your SS# onto the computer keys. He never forgets it, and he uses it against his enemies. Cohen also has a good memory, but he is very lazy, and he hires yes-men to do his dirty work. Wasn't it JoeE who interviewed Cohen on dokk's system before Cohen scurried away like a river rat? YNOT asked their userbase what they thought of YNOT Bob having Metzger (the KKK ass) on their radio show. Most of the users were against it. I wouldn't want to hear Metzger unless he talked about porn. Cohen talks about porn, so I want to hear him. Why not track the rat down, Sarettah! Find him and get the reward from Gary, but before you turn him in, set up an interview on one of the porn radio shows. But please, dont use sleazybear from Netpond. He has improved, but he is no match for the big guys. Nitey Nite, I'm off to watch Letterman...a good Indiana boy who finally got his GF pregnant! :rokk: |
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watching other people STUPIDITY makes us feel better about our shortcomings and Gary's list is one of the longest in the industry. |
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whoops ;-)))) there is only ONE article you can find here: "Life is a dangerous thing, you all know how it ends" ;-))) |
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Gary. . . . nothing? this is sad... why don't you like us :(
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Sarettah, Gary has said many times that he reads the boards, including Oprano, but it doesn't make any sense to him to enter the fray and be attacked.
But I think the real reason Gary didn't mention Oprano is because he is afraid Serge would kick his butt. :bjump: |
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Unless he tried to come on like a bulldog type.... I went after ullimike because of the way he entered the thread, not because he was from sex.com..... I am sorry that I am not impressed with sex.com..... I am much more impressed by many of the folks here and what they have done.... MikeAI's stuff is first rate, Danny,Ulfies, Vicks project is very cool.. Ant and Voodo have always impressed me.... CJ is wonderful and knowledgeable and purve is a great site... KK always shows that she quite desrves the excellent reputation she has... even Brad impresses the hell out of me.... If I have left anyone out, I am sorry.. These are the ones whos work annd effort I have noticed... I do not mean to denigrate anyone else here, I just haven't seen what you got yet :) I am always extremely impressed over at VNWR with the stuff Voltar does and the kind of work he gets out of us newbies... Some wonderful stuff coming out of there on a daily basis...and most of them are doingwhat they do on a shoestring... Using one single domain on shared hosting, but still making cash as they move up to bigger and better... Those are your future movers and shakers in this industry.... Lensman impresses me, even if I think that most of the folks posting on GFY are probably highschoolers.... GFY and adult.com are both impressive endeavours..... These are the folks that are making things happen.... I am sure there are others who are not quite so open about what they are doing... People laying low and raking in the bucks with their various projects.... edited to add.... oh yeah, sometimes you impress me too Confucy.... It is a brave person who comes on out, takes her beatings and still hangs in there..... Last edited by sarettah at Sep 13 2003, 11:28 PM |
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No clarification? No apology? I can only be left to assume you stand by your words. What the hell really happened to you to make you all Bitter toward Australians gary? Did Babenet scam you? If so why not back up your words and hold them to account yourself. Or were those words just empty bullshit too? I'm going to start calling you Viagra soon Gary.. you are starting to give me one raging hard on. |
i keep reading that Gary doesnt know how to run properly sex.com. I'm wondering the ones that have this impression if they have analyzed his site model and have alternative, more profitable ones in their mind. I believe most of them do not.
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If he had said "Shun the scamming Canadians".... well that would be different :awinky: |
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