65%??? No way!

Its me, and your makin me blush.





:yowsa:[/b][/quote]
does that mean I get to rub your head?????

Sorry men only

Don't worry you're safe, he's only interested in MEN.[/b][/quote]
Ahh Timon,

Dont be sad that I turned you down. You'll find someone for you,
Someday!

:awinky:

does that mean I get to rub your head?????[/b][/quote]
haha, well, it might not be so exciting now, I have hair again.


Shaving it every 2 days was becoming a hassle.

Ahh Timon,

Dont be sad that I turned you down. You'll find someone for you,
Someday!

:awinky:[/b][/quote]
Well if you ever change your mind.... :boohoo: :boohoo:

i don't get it, i asked for average retention and i get a % number ... :huh:

so, is 65% the % of trials that converts to a paid membership in the first month?

i guess i could go check this myself but i'm too lazy, what processor are you using?

ibill & paycom

65%


:huh:

One would probably have to "forget" to count half the trials to get to 65% ;-)



Last edited by Timon at Jun 20 2003, 12:41 AM

even my womens sites have dropped down to the 30% mark ...

aaaah remember those 65% times? if only we could do it all over again

I apologize. I read your question incorrectly. Our rebills from trial to full membership hover around the 65% mark. Our retention rate varies month to month of course depending on the time of year but a good average is 6 to 8 months retention. Of course there are some that have actually been with us for a couple of years. We are using, epoch , ibill and psw. We also use electracash for online checks and nocreditcard for dialer. Hit me up on icq sometime cj I would love to talk to you about your program. 59075257

undermyspell, why do think that not a single paysite on the web can even come close to those #s and you can ??

my next question is are those #s from 5 years ago or 2003 ?

undermyspell, thanks for sharing your stats from 1996 with us

what do your 2003 stats look like?

honestly?

all I am conveying is what I have been shown in the way of numbers. I don't know how or why. I know the sites are good and the billing is so extensive virtually anyone can get their card or check accepted. The numbers are from this year as the affiliate program hasn't been pulled together as a collective effort for very long. Some of the sites were stand alone paysites from 6 years ago and some are new sites added to the database for the affiliate program. We pay well and the affiliates we have work hard. It's up to you to make what you will of it. If you want to try it and report your numbers compared to other sites by all means be my guest. If you don't want to promote it then I am sorry that we won't be doing business.

i guess the % totals are calculated from the same ibill accounts which contain 97 data through to 2003 data?? fuck, i have no idea how anyone can get a 6-8 month retention these days ... i can't even get that high selling 12 month memberships :huh:

undermyspell, i suggest you go to your boss, and ask a LOT of questions about how the biz works ... we'd all like to promote your stuff as you have some great niches in there, but so far you've just bullshited us with numbers that are incredibly off the norm ... tell your boss that these days, there's lots of webmasters who aren't idiots and won't believe crap like that, but you should do ok on gfy ;-)

you will learn a lot around here, we'll all help you along ... :okthumb:

undermyspell, i am aware that your sites have been around for many years and the tours look real good. Thats why i gave em a try, But the #s are just not there. :(

EroticAsians.com 2800 2 1/1,400
EroticJapan.com 5303 3 1/1,768


Timon, FYI you're asian sites have out performed every other asian site i've tried over the last few years on targeted asian traffic. :okthumb:

Timon is an asian pimp.

:P

what else would you expect from the original master of the asian site?!
:okthumb:

oh and undermyspell, the 2 lines slavik just posted are the only 2 lines most people will see

yeah i hear all the way here in San Fran

" you so crazy,
me love Teeemon long time,
but for you 5 dollah "

:P

Asian has always been my specialty! ;-)



Last edited by Timon at Jun 20 2003, 01:45 AM

Something you have a passion for is always easiest to sell...

You should start some Gay sites voodoo :-))

I am just relaying the information I was given. If it is incorrect I apologize. I did ask very specific question about it when I was brought aboard. I asked rebill % and was told specifically "real rebill %'s are 65%" , I asked how they did that and was told "yes that's because of we give 3 more sites when a user wants to cancel" "and we give a new site to the user every 15 days" when I asked about chargeback ratios here is what I was told "last I checked was for last month %0.07 for Epoch and %0.01 for IBill, I didn't check PSW" I could continue to go through the various email and chat transcripts that I have but this shows a little of what i'm talking about. I would love for you to give it a try. If you do maybe you will see if what i've said is true or not. I am not new to the industry and asked very specific questions concerning the program when I was hired. I knew these were things I would need to know to promote it. If the man is doing the numbers that he gave me then it should show in the stats if you're promoting it. If he isn't then I apologize for incorrect information I may have been given. I asked him specifically to convey what they are doing now and also what they have done in the past. The numbers i've discussed are the ones I was given as the current ones. The sites began with supermodel and hentai and have progressed to the ones he has now. The affiliate program is a good solid one and if posible I will get my hands on the stats to keep as reference for when these questions arise and then I can lay these issues to rest. Have a good evening I must retire as I have surgery in the morning. Good evening and I had a thoroughly enjoyable time visiting with you all even when you were grilling me for info. :)

hmm, that might be a good idea.

Will you and your boyfriend be the starter content?

undermyspell, hope your surgery goes well and you recover fast. g'night

Good Luck with your operation.

Take Care.

thanks for being a good sport undermyspell ;-)
we are always nicer the 2nd time :biglaugh:

Your boss asks you to spread around false numbers on his behalf.

No wonder he prefers to stay anonymous.

hmm, that might be a good idea.

Will you and your boyfriend be the starter content?[/b][/quote]
Trust me you couldn't afford it.

Trust me you couldn't afford it.[/b][/quote]
I could scrape up a few quarters, and maybe a half of a snickers.

That should about cover it.
:P

You couldn't afford to make me scratch my ass off camera!

You couldn't afford to make me scratch my ass off camera![/b][/quote]
We shall see about that. But should that be ON camera?

Everyone knows youll get your freak on OFF Camera for free.
:-))

Only if it's to service myself, certainly not as a favor to others!

Why would you sevice yourself,when you have all those willing asians around you?
;-)

I wish, but not too many Asians here in amsterdam ;-(

Holy shit you move alot, maybe more than me.

But, even better, if you cant get a girl THERE to
service you, then you better go back to Tailand.

:P

In my short time investigating the Adult world I've never heard so much bullshit claims and claptrap in all my life. Everyone's program converts 'the best', everyone's program is 'kick ass', 200:1 is standard etc etc.

For example yesterday I was listening to a Maxcash live show where the guy running it called Headless informed everyone that he had a few old domains he'd forgotton about, and so decided to change the links over to Maxcash and then POW, suddenly they were converting at 95:1. Then you've got all the stupid adverts which all seem to talk about money, money, money.

So who are the stupid ones here? The people who make the claims thinking that the sheeple will believe them, or the sheeple for believing the claims of the charlatans?

Mark my words, as great a country America is, it won't be around in about 100-150 years because money somewhere down the line will destroy it, and it will take down the whole globe with it.

has anyone seen the british comedy 'fawlty towers'? i'm thinking manuel, when he says 'ke?' to basil

in other words

what the fuck are you talking about?!?!?!

what does america have to do with an affiliate program???? :huh:

Timon, does that mean you will resurrect the OG site
Amsterdam Cum bath ? :D

Timon, does that mean you will resurrect the OG site
Amsterdam Cum bath ? :D[/b][/quote]
:okthumb:

Amsterdamn, I think it was?

Slav, how's life?

better than ever and kicking @$$ :D

you ?