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cj 03-18-2003 04:56 PM

so he's got a big mouth ...

that doesn't make him a pisser

your insulting your own profession serge

Winetalk.com 03-18-2003 04:58 PM

Serge, can you define pissing for real?

Alex
**************

Yers,but not on a slow connection...
this is the slowest pc i've been to in the last 4 years
;-(((

Winetalk.com 03-18-2003 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cj@Mar 18 2003, 05:04 PM
so he's got a big mouth ...

that doesn't make him a pisser

your insulting your own profession serge

cj,
blah,blah,blah...
YOU try step on Forest tail nad see how long he can last...
I pick my pissers wisely, despite what some think
;-)))

Forest 03-18-2003 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cj+Mar 18 2003, 01:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (cj @ Mar 18 2003, 01:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--XXXPhoto@Mar 18 2003, 02:15 PM
Maybe Forest is the pivot man in the middle??
like the cream center in a gay sandwhich?!??
:P


Forest, the more you big note yourself the more you prove ulfie right. you'd do better if you learned how to listen

what you were involved in at netpond was not pissing, it was a bunch of veterans who know what they are doing trying to give you advice.[/b][/quote]
cj

i have gotten where i am by doing exactly what I am doing

I havent changed a lick since day 1 except to upgrade my lifestyle

your Opinion is shared and voiced by many, but at the same time i do alot of business and have alot of fun with people who dont share those opinions or views

but you know what they say about opinions....

Serge

The scambo thread was alot of fun wasnt it

Thanx for the kudos from the king :wnw:

Forest 03-18-2003 05:07 PM

Serge

our wine fetish has expanded to other boards

we may need a bigger table next time and MORE WINE!!! :hic:

Hows the wine selection down there

*KK* 03-18-2003 05:11 PM

Eh, these damn threaded boards screwed it all up.

Monk 03-18-2003 05:19 PM

So all it takes to be a good pisser is to be relentless? Serge, have another jug of wine.

Even based on that criteria, seems to me that Forest was in exile from this board for the longest time because he couldn't take the heat. Once you guys met in person, he finally felt safe to come back.

Regardless, I don't think relentlessness is the key. I don't think I ever saw Forest win a piss. In fact, he got the piss beat out of him in any ones that I can recall.

Forest 03-18-2003 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monk@Mar 18 2003, 02:27 PM
So all it takes to be a good pisser is to be relentless? Serge, have another jug of wine.

Even based on that criteria, seems to me that Forest was in exile from this board for the longest time because he couldn't take the heat. Once you guys met in person, he finally felt safe to come back.

Regardless, I don't think relentlessness is the key. I don't think I ever saw Forest win a piss. In fact, he got the piss beat out of him in any ones that I can recall.

hahahaha

monk you need to goo read your history or atleast the archives

i was posting again on oprano long before i met serge..

and what does that have to do with this anyway

LOTS of people know and eat with serge

did they make his list

monk do you have hidden issues here?

Monk 03-18-2003 05:55 PM

forest,

I don't have any issues, and don't need any, to know you are not a good pisser.

Just calling a spade a spade... sorry to break it to you.


(But there was this one time I raised my hand at the TGP2 conference and you never let me speak)..... hahahaha

If you can point out a piss that you won, I will go take a look at it.

Monk 03-18-2003 06:04 PM

.... and the fact reamins you were run off Oprano for the longest time, while still posting in safer havens.

Forest 03-18-2003 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monk@Mar 18 2003, 03:12 PM
.... and the fact reamins you were run off Oprano for the longest time, while still posting in safer havens.
yes for standing up for a friend and pissing with serge or actually pissing him off LOL

what have you done lately??
:unsure:

Forest 03-18-2003 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monk@Mar 18 2003, 03:03 PM
forest,

I don't have any issues, and don't need any, to know you are not a good pisser.

Just calling a spade a spade... sorry to break it to you.


(But there was this one time I raised my hand at the TGP2 conference and you never let me speak)..... hahahaha

If you can point out a piss that you won, I will go take a look at it.

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php?a...9d365e0feb179ef

there is most recent memory...

im sorry monk but i dont hang pisses on the wall like trophies

if you want more go look for yourself

Monk 03-18-2003 06:50 PM

Well, that thread looks like a case of black and white.... you just pointed out the facts and this guy was obviously unfamiliar with tax laws... pretty easy argument to win. I'll give it you if you really want to take it though.

Do you have any others? I just realized that yambo thread was your prized possession... so much so that you couldn't wait to make reference to it earlier in this thread...

"Serge The scambo thread was alot of fun wasnt it"

Even though you don't hang them on the wall like trophies, you appear to wear them like a badge..... and I use the word 'them' loosely as it infers multiples.

Give me another please.

*KK* 03-18-2003 06:55 PM

HAhahahahaa :)

Forest 03-18-2003 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monk@Mar 18 2003, 03:58 PM
Well, that thread looks like a case of black and white.... you just pointed out the facts and this guy was obviously unfamiliar with tax laws... pretty easy argument to win. I'll give it you if you really want to take it though.

Do you have any others? I just realized that yambo thread was your prized possession... so much so that you couldn't wait to make reference to it earlier in this thread...

"Serge The scambo thread was alot of fun wasnt it"

Even though you don't hang them on the wall like trophies, you appear to wear them like a badge..... and I use the word 'them' loosely as it infers multiples.

Give me another please.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH Monk did you even read it??

or just glance thru the highlights?

they stole ideas and information I gave them and made the changes on the site without paying me

read the 2nd to last post

they are changeing all of the disputed info

hmmmmmmmm

Monk 03-18-2003 07:16 PM

If you were a better pisser, I wouldn't have had to skim it. hahaha

Forest 03-18-2003 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monk@Mar 18 2003, 04:24 PM
If you were a better pisser, I wouldn't have had to skim it. hahaha
you asked for a piss i won

there ya go

btw who are you anyway

have we met

what do you do?

XXXPhoto 03-18-2003 07:38 PM

Must be a slow news day... A piss about pissing... agree with the New-Coke comment... This ain't your daddy's piss... B)

Monk 03-18-2003 07:54 PM

I'm nobody...... unlike you!!!

Vick 03-18-2003 08:08 PM

Hey Mark/XXXPhoto - I'm looking at your sig
What in the world is "Sploshing"?

Peaches 03-18-2003 08:16 PM

(let me preface this by saying that I Googled this - it's NOT something on my bookmarks...really...though it does involve food, so it can't be ALL bad......)

Sploshing :bwave:

Vick 03-18-2003 08:24 PM

Thanks Peaches ...... Hmmm wonder if Peaches are included in Sploshing? :P

Now what I wonder next is in Mark's sig it reads (Including yours truly... ;•Ð) so ...........


Edit for vowel problem



Last edited by Vick at Mar 18 2003, 08:35 PM

XXXPhoto 03-18-2003 08:53 PM

Vick...

Spolshing is a very general term for messy type adult fun...

Let's see, it ranges from a woman pouring pudding over herself to dressing up in a business suit and easing (fully clothed mind you) into a swimming pool to fluffy bubble bath to rolling around in the mud to wrestling in creamed corn (beware of the nibblets) to whipped cream/human sundae...

When not tipping cows or attempting to seduce other livestock, this is something that I would consider great fun... then again, what do I know, I'm inbred...

I could break out all that plastic wrap and duct tape (everyone has this now right?) and put it to good use... It won't stop a microbe, but it will keep the strawberry ice cream from staining your carpet! .... er .... so I heard.... lol

cj 03-18-2003 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Forest+Mar 18 2003, 07:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Forest @ Mar 18 2003, 07:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Monk@Mar 18 2003, 03:58 PM
Well, that thread looks like a case of black and white.... you just pointed out the facts and this guy was obviously unfamiliar with tax laws... pretty easy argument to win. I'll give it you if you really want to take it though.

Do you have any others? I just realized that yambo thread was your prized possession... so much so that you couldn't wait to make reference to it earlier in this thread...

"Serge The scambo thread was alot of fun wasnt it"

Even though you don't hang them on the wall like trophies, you appear to wear them like a badge..... and I use the word 'them' loosely as it infers multiples.

Give me another please.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH Monk did you even read it??

or just glance thru the highlights?

they stole ideas and information I gave them and made the changes on the site without paying me

read the 2nd to last post

they are changeing all of the disputed info

hmmmmmmmm[/b][/quote]
Forest,

from what i can see, you did them a marketing proposal which they didn't find acceptable for the fee you were charging and you have a chip on your shoulder about it ...

you are then accusing them of stealing your ideas and putting them online in 48 hours ... your ideas must have been really good ... and you must have been planning on charging them for more than 48 hours worth of work no?


so in black and white terms
you are accusing them of stealing 10k worth of ideas in 48 hours?!

LAME!

that'll teach you for putting the ideas in the proposal in enough detail that they could be copied!

come on forest ... give it up! you are many things, but a pisser isn't one of them. i'd call it 'arguing for the sake of getting attention and making yourself appear important' .... its not even very original, hooper does it way better and people who meet him in person actually like him. you don't seem to have made that impression on too many here except serge ...

it takes a lot more than pissing and talking about wine with serge to gain the respect of your peers ... you have some work to do still.

Hooper 03-18-2003 09:15 PM

I find this conversation very interesting.

Do you define a "good" pisser as one that is entertaining? one that is annoying? or is "good" pisser somebody who gets something out of the piss?

Just curious so i can study up ;-)

cj 03-18-2003 09:18 PM

good point hooper ;-)
something pretty important missing in this discussion ...

its funny who jumps on and says 'i'm so good at that' when there is no definition of what they are supposed to be good at ... some people just desperately need to point out that they are good at something .... ANYTHING!!!!

:rolleyes:

Hooper 03-18-2003 09:20 PM

yeah! in that case.. i'm the best at everything! ;-)

i'm suprised you werent nominated cj.. i think you're just so quick to the kill that people tend to shy from actually fighting with you. :wnw:

Peaches 03-18-2003 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper@Mar 18 2003, 10:23 PM
I find this conversation very interesting.

Do you define a "good" pisser as one that is entertaining? one that is annoying? or is "good" pisser somebody who gets something out of the piss?

Just curious so i can study up ;-)

IMHO, a "good" pisser must be knowledgeable about the subject, or are good enough at BSing to confuse everyone into thinking s/he is, they can't lose their cool, they know when to stop, they win (by unanimous decision) 80% of their pisses, and they manage to stay friends with the people they piss with. :)

I think it's like any good argument. I have friends/family/loved ones that I disagree with about things, and we can argue like crazy, but in the end, if we still disagree, we agree to disagree, kiss and all's right with the world. A BAD pisser will lose friends in a piss, a GOOD pisser will gain them.

Hooper - you've had your bad AND good pisses, lol!

Hooper 03-18-2003 09:30 PM

indeed.

i always think of pissing a long term strategy which is one of the reasons i respect serge and yes, brad. they actually got something tangible out of shit stirring. to me that is what makes a good pisser. jmho. some of the best debaters i see on these boards are not making much $.

cj 03-18-2003 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper@Mar 18 2003, 09:28 PM
yeah! in that case.. i'm the best at everything! ;-)

i'm suprised you werent nominated cj.. i think you're just so quick to the kill that people tend to shy from actually fighting with you. :wnw:

i don't want to fight! i'm a nice peaceful girl ;-)



oh and you can't be the best at everything because I AM!!!!!

:nyanya:

RawAlex 03-18-2003 11:59 PM

I honestly think that part of being a good pisser is knowing how to play the other half just enough to keep them in the game... a good piss has legs, and is about ISSUES and CONCEPTS, and never gets more personal than just on a superficial level. A good pisser knows how to keep the other person (people) in the game for the long run, to really make something of the discussion.

Bad piss is just idiotic name calling and yelling - not listening to the other side, no thrust and parry, just infantile name calling and sleaze. Those threads don't tend to last, and for the most part, people tend to walk away.

There are very few people on this board (maybe 2 total) who can really play the game properly. There are a number of people who think they are good, but realistically they are nothing more than insulting and rude.

Alex

cj 03-19-2003 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RawAlex@Mar 19 2003, 12:07 AM
Bad piss is just idiotic name calling and yelling - not listening to the other side, no thrust and parry, just infantile name calling and sleaze. Those threads don't tend to last, and for the most part, people tend to walk away.
now that sounds like a good piss to me!!!!!

:D

see IMO, i think a good piss is where it does get personal ... otherwise its just a discussion or a debate. nobody really pisses anymore ... rarely does anyone insult each others mothers and slam each other personally ... piss is meant to be damaging to the other person. its pretty hard to damage each other these days because we all know each others dirty laundry and its boring!!!!

to define piss, you look to those who invented it ...

FM and Serge

pissers are usually a bit insane, or at least lost the point of reason they were originally discussing

i'd add 1 other person into my list of 'masters'

she's psychotic, delusional, and not above personal attacks and her name starts with 'con' ...

Hooper 03-19-2003 12:34 AM

i agree cj.

if it's not personal then it's "discussion"

RawAlex 03-19-2003 01:15 AM

Quote:

its pretty hard to damage each other these days because we all know each others dirty laundry and its boring!!!!
Yeah, and a few of us were there while the laundry was being dirtied.

Alex

Almighty Colin 03-19-2003 05:19 AM

Hmmm, no one even agrees on what piss is. We could work backwards. Piss is what Serge is good at.

See - I really like reading CJ's posts, for example. She always comes in from a pretty cool angle. She can put someone in their place with a few quick lines. It's not really that pissy though. Her posts make too much sense.

JR is more pissy. A combination of logic, data, heavy humor and name-calling. Good stuff! Especially when I am in the mood to read a book.

Forest is pissy but he just doesn't make ANY sense and I don't know when he is bullshitting or not. I give him that. He is good at bullshitting. At least, he believes himself. I bet he thinks this song is about him.

KK is really good. However, she usually makes so much damned sense I don't have anything to say after she posts. Pithy. Fun to watch the quick zingers.

Alex is really fun. A true pisser. Excellent at debate. Definitely not as impersonal as he claims.
Alex uses "disguised personal attacks". :-P

PornoDoggy makes too much sense to be a true pisser too. Excellent posts. Though we often disagree, I have great respect for the PornoDoggy attack.

I could go on. I can easily list two dozen people off the top of my head. I better stop. That is why I like Oprano so much. So many people I respect (in between battles, of course).

Jeremy-RR 03-19-2003 05:32 AM

And here was me thinking a 'good pisser' was someone who didn't "sprinkle when they tinkle" :)

Does anyone still rate pissing as a successful promo method any more?

Almighty Colin 03-19-2003 05:34 AM

Heather was the Queen of piss back on the day. The only person to ever get me pissed enough to walk away from the computer to chill out. She has abdicated though. Kinder, Gentler. I like her better this way.

Forest 03-19-2003 07:24 AM

Yawnnn waking up and you still talking about me

:inlove:
________________________________
so in black and white terms
you are accusing them of stealing 10k worth of ideas in 48 hours?!

LAME! (cj)
_________________________

cj cj cj no no no

they offerd me a 90 day contract AT 850 a week for marketing
a verbal contract is enforceable in a us court...and these moron actually wrote it on icq and e-mails.

I know you may not know much about us laws as ur an aussie

so go re-read the post and share your asshole errr opinion there here or anywhere


:okthumb:



Last edited by Forest at Mar 19 2003, 04:35 AM

Forest 03-19-2003 07:30 AM

BUT

I think you are all missing the BIG picture

all serge had to do is put my name in the thread and look at your reaction

Serge IS the MASTER!!!!:wnw:

and all from his vacation in a 3rd world country

hahahahahahahahaha

:nyanya:

keep on pushing those buttons serge!!!!

cj 03-19-2003 07:39 AM

forest, you truly are a putz

i don't give a shit about the laws you are reciting, in business, you are a putz. i could care less whether you sue these people. you have your dick in your hand if you think a court and lawyer can change the opinion people have of you in this business.


sue away
you'll still be a putz with 10k more in your pocket

yippee!!

what you are claiming as validation for your 'case' is that they took your 'text' and put it on their site and then didn't uphold the 3 month contract. yep, some stupid judge would probably accept that as a case, lame as it is, but i see it as you being a dummie and giving someone marketing information before you had a written contract with the client. Anything you include in such explicit detail in a proposal is your own fault ... a proposal is an outline of an entire marketing strategy ... if you gave him exact text, well .... whose a silly boy then!! how petty are you?!??!

show me the site, i want to see exactly what text is involved! are you talking entire paragraphs, or did you advise them to change 'join' to 'instant access'?!?!?!?!?

oh and thank you for your concern for my knowledge of american law. I think my knowledge of u.s. law is just fine and always growing, thank you! i'll be sure to ask you if I have any legal issues that need sorting out, and your welcome to come to me for marketing advice!!


:okthumb:


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