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Almighty Colin 02-27-2003 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Forest+Feb 27 2003, 09:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Forest @ Feb 27 2003, 09:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--wig@Feb 26 2003, 05:01 PM
I think the idea of Boycotting France was more of a joke than anything to take serious.


IM Not fucking joking

The french have help to prop up and enrich Sadam and his army
with OIL money and people say we are going to war over oil

I have stoped buying french cheese (my fav) French Wine, foods that are imported from france cookies candies all that shit clothes ect ect...

Hey if we as Americans want to show our outrage over all the behind the scene deals Iraq and franch have and that the ONLY reason sadam continues to stay in power is due to the short sitedness of the french politcal structure and the citizens of france that support them

Hit em where it hurts
their wallets...let em have cheap gas

we will make them pay ion other ways

Viva La America!!!!!
lol[/b][/quote]
Forest, I knew YOU weren't joking.

porntempel 02-27-2003 02:04 PM

Serge_Oprano you call up for a boycot on France.
I ask you to come up with any reason or facts & you act like a 5 year old.
All you do is shout & trying to avoid the question.
Wich is sure the best thing to do, if you donīt have an answer!:zzz:

Mike AI, i already said in my first post that iīm from Holland.
Economics here are getting a bit lesser lately, but whe are still doing great.
Wich almost automaticly means, that unemployment rate a growing also...but still nothing to worry about
Taxes here are very high comparing to the usa, but we have a much better social system as the usa ect ect.
Yeap the usa is the superpower, but does that mean i have to agree with them ?
France doesnīt support the usa on the ways they want to deal with Iraq.
Well 80% of the europeans doesnīt support the usa plans according to Iraq.
Thatīs all fine, we are all people & whe all have our opinion.
But if Serge_Oprano yells out everywhere to boycot France, i really want to hear why

Anymore questions Mike AI, iīm happy to answer them (iīm not a question avoiding person like Serge_Oprano)

porntempel

Mike AI 02-27-2003 02:07 PM

porntempel you did a good job answering the questions.

Holland is a wonderful country....

Winetalk.com 02-27-2003 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by porntempel@Feb 27 2003, 02:12 PM
Serge_Oprano you call up for a boycot on France.
I ask you to come up with any reason or facts & you act like a 5 year old.
All you do is shout & trying to avoid the question.
Wich is sure the best thing to do, if you donīt have an answer!:zzz:

Mike AI, i already said in my first post that iīm from Holland.
Economics here are getting a bit lesser lately, but whe are still doing great.
Wich almost automaticly means, that unemployment rate a growing also...but still nothing to worry about
Taxes here are very high comparing to the usa, but we have a much better social system as the usa ect ect.
Yeap the usa is the superpower, but does that mean i have to agree with them ?
France doesnīt support the usa on the ways they want to deal with Iraq.
Well 80% of the europeans doesnīt support the usa plans according to Iraq.
Thatīs all fine, we are all people & whe all have our opinion.
But if Serge_Oprano yells out everywhere to boycot France, i really want to hear why

Anymore questions Mike AI, iīm happy to answer them (iīm not a question avoiding person like Serge_Oprano)

porntempel

state your questions,
one by one,
one Q per post and I'll be delighted educate you and make a better person out of you.

Mike AI 02-27-2003 02:17 PM

Serge why are people from Holland called Dutch?

Winetalk.com 02-27-2003 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI@Feb 27 2003, 02:25 PM
Serge why are people from Holland called Dutch?
I have no remote idea!!!!!

porntempel, do you know?

porntempel 02-27-2003 02:36 PM

As far as i can remember, dutch is actually a swearing nickname to people from Holland.
I believe it comes from the days, that europeans where going around in their wooden ships & collected countryīs and shipping slaves around (we dutch where one of the biggest....not proud of that offcourse).
Anyways, in the mean time the word dutch has become a "normal" word (i try to avoid it, because many people confuse it with deutsch....thatīs germany bla bla bla bla).

So now, teacher Serge_Oprano :wnw: ,

Why should anyone boycot products form France ?

porntempel

Winetalk.com 02-27-2003 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by porntempel@Feb 27 2003, 02:44 PM


So now, teacher Serge_Oprano :wnw: ,

Why should anyone boycot products form France ?

porntempel

Trade is equal with
Money, power, nation wellbeing. and a good way to help friendly nations and keep not so friendly nations at bay,
because every time you buy foreighn products,
you support the country where the proudicts camer from.

France in the last 50 years,
did their best to circumvent USA innitiatives,
they do NOT behave like FRIENDS,
therefore, they do NOT desrve our money, as simple as that.

This is my opinion

Winetalk.com 02-27-2003 02:45 PM

question for you:

Why americans should buy French products in the climate where France doesn't support the fight of American people,
who became victims of hyenous act on Sept 11th?

Almighty Colin 02-27-2003 02:53 PM

I speak some German and word etymology is interesting to me.

English is a Germanic language as is Dutch. Both evolved from German. I think Germany was the name the Romans used to refer to the people who spoke "Deutsch". Deutschland = Germany.

So, the word Dutch reflects the German origins of the wave of settlers, maybe the first, that arrived in Holland and brought the Deutsch language which later evolved into present-day Dutch.

porntempel 02-27-2003 03:08 PM

Didnīt France & the whole of europe helped the usa straight away after 9/11 ??
Wasnīt it europe (including France) who said at once, this coward attack is an attack on all your allies also.
Without any restrictions, you could attack Afghanistan straight away...didnīt we (including France) militairy support (taking over peacekeeping forces & ACTIVE duty in that war).
FYI..i supported that also (just for those who think i hate the usa)

Your quote:
"France doesn't support the fight of American people, who became victims of hyenous act on Sept 11th?"

So where donīt they support the usa regarding to 911 ?
On Iraq ???

porntempel
ps.need some sleep now, looking forward for your reply tommorow

Winetalk.com 02-27-2003 03:20 PM

words do NOT change the status quo,
actions do.
In today's world, Iraq is a "Clear and present danger" to the interests of Free world.

Equating their "words" and statues to the
actions and Human Life is a very far fetched propsition...

I'll be looking forward to YOUR answer to my question too.

porntempel 02-27-2003 05:12 PM

Nice to see your turning things around.....hey i asked you about boycoting France!
Iīm alowed by asking 1 question at a time....where did the 9/11 story go...as you said yourself!
Still no answer, because you have no answer...you are saying the same as before nothing :zzz:

No problem with me, i can go with that & proof your wrong.

You said "Iraq is a clear and present danger to the interests of Free world"
For who ??
I life closer than you to Iraq & i donīt see them as an threat (just like 80% of the europeans).
Could it be that Bush is abusing his "war against terrorisme" for his own re-election & to avoid the usa economics going down.

Serge_oprano, iīm just a simple working class boy...iīm not some kind of intellectual....but your shouting, replyīs & now the way you turn things around & once again avoiding the subjects...already tells me enough!
You donīt know what the hell you are talking about.

Like i said before, we all are different people....with different opinions.

But it is you who spreads the hatred & you canīt defend it.
Hey iīm not here to dizz you, just for an open minded discussion......even that you canīt handle.

But what the fuck, lets go further from here....
Everybody on this planet knows that Saudi Arabia is THE terrorist base....nuke them, i donīt give a damn.
But that would be economic suicide for the usa, as saudi arabia has pomped they shitloads of $ into the usa companies!
Nope, better attack an easy small target....Iraq...totally flat country (better avoid the jungle...remeber Vietnam)...with all the UN boycots they have nothing......the moral is low.....and they have very little army stuff.

Shame on you & waiting for your answer (but i really need sleep now)

porntempel

Mike AI 02-27-2003 05:15 PM

Porntempel.... We are going into Iraq, and from there we will be putting pressure on the house of Saud. I think there is a master plan behind the scenes to turn the whole region around, stablize it, create free markets, and democratic forms of gov't.

Just like in and after WWII with fascism.

That is all Islamic Fundementalism is.... another form of fascism!

Winetalk.com 02-27-2003 05:25 PM

let me guess your age...
under 25?

you are talking with the eagarness of a youth...

are you closer to 20 than to 25?

porntempel 02-27-2003 05:29 PM

Note to PornoDoggy:

The Russians started the great attack on the Germans...thatīs why the Usa (canadians, english ect ect ect ) could loance there invation on the other side of europe.
Just a reminder, over 1.000.000 Russian people died......but hey they wher commies...check your history books again!!
Donīt get me wrong, i didnīt experienced the war (iīm 31 years old) & i do worship all the old veterans who came here everytime wenn whe have a national day of freedom here!

But itīs always the usa & jews who keep nagging about something they never experienced.......i never heard the russians about it!

Note to Wig:
You know what Kyoto is all about ??
A better invirement for everybody...your kids & my kids......whatever race, from whatever country!
Your best ever (in my short life) president of the USA is Clinton, he was aware & agreed.
Your quote"a simple attempt to destroy America’s economy"
Sorry to say, but you really have no clue what you are talking about!!
This is also for the welfare of usa kids!

But hey, you life now...you want it all & fuck the rest who comes after me.
Donīt be ashame....itīs the ussual usa selfish thinking.....the earth is flat, iīm god & fuck them all!!

porntempel (really, really is off for today)

porntempel 02-27-2003 05:37 PM

Serge_Oprano....you really make a fool of your self, you shout & donīt know why!
Just look at your last reply (and previous replyīs on me).

Take an example to Mike AI,
No way i agree with him, but at least he says what he thinks!

Over & out from Holland

porntempel

Winetalk.com 02-27-2003 05:39 PM

htis si where you go wrong, my child...


The Russians started the great attack on the Germans...that?Ls why the Usa (canadians, english ect ect ect ) could loance there invation on the other side of europe.
*********************************

Russians were thrown back to the Ural mountains,
and if it wasn't for AMERICAN Land/Lease,
they would end up the war in Siberia with full capitulation



Just a reminder, over 1.000.000 Russian people died......
***********************************************

how about 20,000,000?????
but your were close...within 95%!


But it?Ls always the usa & jews who keep nagging about something they never experienced.......i never heard the russians about it!
************************************************** **

fuckin' idiot,
go read Russian board and find out what they REALY feel!
molokosos!
http://www.crutop.nu/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisp...u„?...&number=6


Don?Lt be ashame....it?Ls the ussual usa selfish thinking.....the earth is flat, i?Lm god & fuck them all!!
*******************************

you deserve to be fucked,
because your brains don't have brain cells worth talking about

Winetalk.com 02-27-2003 05:40 PM

Over & out from Holland

porntempel
*********************

and stayn there...
LittleC is from Holland too,
but I bet she won't fuck an idiot like you
;-)))

wig 02-27-2003 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by porntempel@Feb 27 2003, 05:37 PM
Note to Wig:
You know what Kyoto is all about ??
A better invirement for everybody...your kids & my kids......whatever race, from whatever country!
Your best ever (in my short life) president of the USA is Clinton, he was aware & agreed.
Your quote"a simple attempt to destroy America’s economy"
Sorry to say, but you really have no clue what you are talking about!!
This is also for the welfare of usa kids!

But hey, you life now...you want it all & fuck the rest who comes after me.
Donīt be ashame....itīs the ussual usa selfish thinking.....the earth is flat, iīm god & fuck them all!!

porntempel (really, really is off for today)

Porntempel,

You don't know me and I don't know you. That is my opinion of Kyoto and you don't see me telling you that you do not have a clue.

The intention may be to create a better place for my kids and your kids, but that does not mean it was stuctured fairly. Nor does it mean that it is valuable at all.

I'm certain that you will learn that politics and policies (no matter what the origin) are always presented with good intentions. Unfortunately, this does not mean that the result will always be good.

Before, in your infinite wisdom, you try and help save the environment and the planet, perhaps WE should start with mankind.

Best of luck to you.

Mike AI 02-27-2003 07:24 PM

Kyoto was a ploy by Europe to drag the American Economy down the drain. The burden it would have placed on OUR industrial infrastructure would he made us uncompetative.

It is funny because Koyoto treaty from what I remember did not apply to China, Russia and other "developing nations"

PornoDoggy 02-27-2003 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by porntempel@Feb 27 2003, 05:37 PM
Note to PornoDoggy:

The Russians started the great attack on the Germans...thatīs why the Usa (canadians, english ect ect ect ) could loance there invation on the other side of europe.
Just a reminder, over 1.000.000 Russian people died......but hey they wher commies...check your history books again!!
Donīt get me wrong, i didnīt experienced the war (iīm 31 years old) & i do worship all the old veterans who came here everytime wenn whe have a national day of freedom here!

But itīs always the usa & jews who keep nagging about something they never experienced.......i never heard the russians about it!

porntempel (really, really is off for today)

You don't read this board much, do you? I know a little bit about the Second World War and the unbelieveable sacrifices that the Russian people made - and the number is far more than 1,000,000. Yes, some Americans think that the war was won between June 44 and May 45 only because of the Western Invasion. Some Russians and other Europeans don't acknowledge the role the Americans played in keeping the Russians supplied, in using aviation to disrupt the German war effort, and in tying significant numbers of German troops and supplies tied down elsewhere and away from the Russian front. The one thing the world will never have a shortage of is morons.

Still ... I don't recall the liberation of Holland by Soviet troops. That means two things. First, your country was liberated by the Western allies, including the Americans. Second, you did not have to endure 50 years of occupation by Russian puppets before liberation finally came.

And as for "But itīs always the usa & jews who keep nagging about something they never experienced", all I can say is :heil:

wig 02-27-2003 08:22 PM

MikeAI, exactly. Even if it were a viable plan, the Kyoto protocol was structured unfairly.

There is also evidence that climate change is several times below the amount predicted by the computer models used for the Framework Convention.

In fact, since 1990 the estimates for Global warming have been revised lower consistently.

Of course, this does not matter to some people. The irony to me is that the same people who are so hell bent on saving the planet don't don't say shit about having Libya chair the Human Rights committee of the UN. :blink:

wig 02-27-2003 08:24 PM

[quote]Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Feb 27 2003, 08:04 PM
Quote:

Originally Posted by porntempel,Feb 27 2003, 05:37 PM
Note to PornoDoggy:

The one thing the world will never have a shortage of is morons.

Pearl!!!

PornoDoggy 02-28-2003 03:41 AM

Why, thank you Wig. :)

porntempel 02-28-2003 12:54 PM

Yeap i missed a few millions, and i believe yours arenīt correct also...it should be 27 miljoen death russians.
Yeap, they did get some support from the allied forces.
But russia did the biggest fights against the naziīs, without them a d-day would never have been possible....so no liberation of europe (inl. Holland).

The Kyoto thing was a great thing & your best president ever Clinton agreed.
The usa is a massive slurping enegie monster.
Big crowed countries like India & China are growing explosive on an economic way.
More money, more welfarth to the people....just like us: they want cars, they want tvīs ect ect
This will happen in the future & our resources will dry empy and nature welfare will go down!

Still waiting for your explenation & proof about this, Proffesor Serge_Oprano :wnw:
In today's world, Iraq is a "Clear and present danger"

porntempel

Winetalk.com 02-28-2003 01:22 PM

Yeap i missed a few millions, and i believe yours arenīt correct also...it should be 27 miljoen death russians.
*******************************************

wrong,
but I don't think it matters to you,
you are hard headed Dutch who would rather l.ive in your own fantasy world than deal with facts.


Yeap, they did get some support from the allied forces.
**********************************************

"Some Support"?????
hahahaahahahahahahahah,
see above.



But russia did the biggest fights against the naziīs, without them a d-day would never have been possible....so no liberation of europe (inl. Holland).
************************************************** *********

If Russia didn't have plans to attack Germany,
and Hitler was FORCED to attack them,
I wouldn't have to read your Dutch thoughts translated into English and be satisfyed with your GERMAN thoughts translated into English
;-)))

Vick 02-28-2003 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by porntempel@Feb 28 2003, 01:02 PM
your best president ever Clinton agreed.

Clinton was a greater President than .... ?!!

Washington
Adams
Jefferson
Lincoln
Teddy Roosevelt
Truman
Eisenhower

porntempel 02-28-2003 03:36 PM

Clinton is the greatest you had lately....whole the world outside the usa agrees.

Most of you made the name you have in the outside world, arrogant shouting selfish cowboys 100% true.
The earth is flath ,usa is the center of the world & god = Serge_oprano :wnw:
Please do go on & see everybody shit on you....blame yourselfs!!
Boycot France...whoīs next ?

Best proof, Serge_oprano quote:
"I'll be delighted educate you and make a better person out of you"
But wenn i donīt agree, he turns questioning around & forget to teach my poor retarded soul (forgive me, iīm caveman...just like the rest outside the usa) ...wich he promised to help me out.
Just like your great Bush jerk is doing....if you are not with us..you are against us.
No proof, no discussion....just simple flaming

Still no facts & proof about Iraq.

porntempel

Winetalk.com 02-28-2003 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by porntempel@Feb 28 2003, 03:44 PM
Clinton is the greatest you had lately....whole the world outside the usa agrees.

Most of you made the name you have in the outside world, arrogant shouting selfish cowboys 100% true.
The earth is flath ,usa is the center of the world & god = Serge_oprano :wnw:
Please do go on & see everybody shit on you....blame yourselfs!!
Boycot France...whoīs next ?

Best proof, Serge_oprano quote:
"I'll be delighted educate you and make a better person out of you"
But wenn i donīt agree, he turns questioning around & forget to teach my poor retarded soul (forgive me, iīm caveman...just like the rest outside the usa) ...wich he promised to help me out.
Just like your great Bush jerk is doing....if you are not with us..you are against us.
No proof, no discussion....just simple flaming

Still no facts & proof about Iraq.

porntempel

Tempel,
educating you elementary facts when your brains has reached the capacity,
it an impossible thing to do.

Me and DynaSpain were having heated argument on GFY and we were able to reach concensus, because we both open minded people.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.p...587#post1425587

You are not,
you presnt opinions as FACTS, incapable of following logic and you are making very borrong opponent.

Vick 02-28-2003 05:10 PM

porntempel - you really do have a problem confusing opinion with fact

porntempel 02-28-2003 05:10 PM

Be sure to go on in buying 3e world countries votes in the UN (not that you care about the UN, but just to help Blair out who has issolated himself ).
War against Iraq is about oil & nothing more.
The usa goverment is isolating themselfs....and you spread your own hatred....donīt blame me.

You claim to have the wisdom, but you donīt get further than flaming
Witch sounds the same as Bush..no proof & only intressted in bombing
Well you actually never gave me any proof...what else is new

Total arrogance....hmmm is Serge_oprano actually Bush his internet nick name ?

Have a bomb free weekend

porntempel :hic:

Winetalk.com 02-28-2003 10:56 PM

The degree of one's emotion varies inversely with one's knowledge of the facts -- the less you know the hotter you get.
--Bertrand Russell

Torone 03-02-2003 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by porntempel@Feb 28 2003, 03:44 PM
Clinton is the greatest you had lately....whole the world outside the usa agrees.


porntempel

That could be because Clinton was of the same Socialist philosophy as they are; or because the people who have been so visible in support of him are just as much gangster as he was/is...

Winetalk.com 03-02-2003 10:47 AM

I guess they liked him because he did more to mock the Office of the President of the United States than they ever could....

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