Awesome, I'm Libra!!![/b][/quote]
as kk knows....
i too, am a libra

I cant believe even the Aussies are buyin into this crap.
http://www.johnedward.net/seminars.htm

The shows are Sold Out there.

Unbelievable!!! :headwall: :headwall:

nope, Im a Virgo....and according to Colin's list, im a Leo

nope, Im a Virgo....and according to Colin's list, im a Leo[/b][/quote]
And according to everyone else, you're an Ass :bwave:

thats Mister Ass to you :awinky:

I've seen you naked - you're Ms. Ass to me! :nyanya:

errr wtf does that mean?????? :yowsa:

:biglaugh:

I'm a gemini :)

I'm am Earth sign and a Water sign ...........



means I add up to a Mud sign

Thanks for posting that list Colin - when did that one become the new dates? I mean - some of us are old enough that maybe we were born under the "ancient" signs. lol *ducking*

Interesting though...I had a reading done many years ago as a joke by my exact birth date, etc. not by my sign (which I thought was Cancer - and those traits perfectly fit me BTW) - and it warned me about a Virgo who would "come into my world, steal my heart and become my life." Hub (whom I thought was a Libra according to the old chart) always teased me about "Sancho the Virgo" - the guy I must be seeing when he's at work. lol Now I find out that in this new chart my hubby is actually a Virgo! :inlove: :inlove:

Gonna have to show him this chart in your post - maybe he'll quit teasing me about Sancho - lol

:nyanya:

Don't worry. Astrologers still use the positions of the planets from about 2000 years ago to determine signs. The ones I posted are true in the sense that the sun is REALLY in those constellations at present during those months. The astrological signs that can be looked up in astrology books and the real physical location of stars, planets, the earth, moon and sun are actually different. The ones we use were first set down mostly bythe Greeks Hipparchus and Ptolemy. Ptolemy was certainly a first-rate astronomer and mathematician for the times.
Your "sun sign" is the constellation the sun was in around 200 AD; Ptolemy's time.

I used to own zodiacsigns.com I just learned I let it expire. :-(

Aquarius. A Horse in China :okthumb:

You like water polo?

That means you're going to die twice.

:D
If only that Chinese thing had meant "hung like a", my life could have been so different :boohoo:

hehehe, that just means that you like people to think you 'sting' but really yer just a big cat. :awinky:

But now I know why there's this 'double' feeling about you....the twins of course. :P

Interesting chart. I remember checking it out when you posted a url before.

That chart makes me a pisces.

And yes, Sag is a fire sign.

3 signs per element:
Earth: Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn
Air: Gemini, Libra, Aquarius
Fire: Aries, Leo, Sagittarius
Water: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces

Here's an interesting article on Ophiuchus that says basically what you are saying Colin:
http://www.griffithobs.org/SkyOphiuchus.html
This one's rather funny...lol:
http://www.kernel.uky.edu/1996/spring/0424/n13f.html
There were many more also supporting these claims.

I also found a few articles that refuted those claims...example:
http://www.devineadvantage.com/articles/ophiuchus.htm
http://www.astarotology.com/ophiucus.html
http://www.elysian.co.uk/askastrologerarch...20heard%20about

I do agree with Troland though:

"Astrology, I think, survives because it appeals to peoples' romantic inclinations to believe in magic. "It appeals to a very deep and profound desire that people have to see meaning where they don't see it otherwise, and also to be able to predict, to some extent, things that will happen in the future," he said.

But in all honesty...is that such a bad thing????



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errr so now I'm a pussy!!!! Great!!!! :agrin:

I'm a slut and a pussy all in one day!!! :yowsa:

ROTFLMAO!! :ph34r:

Im a Leo

go figya
:lol:

Gigi,

Those are all interesting articles. It is true that you can mentally reset the zodiac on the vernal equinox to Aries. Of course, that is a mental point only and has no correspondence to the physical world.

A few errors I read.

1. Ophiuchus and Hercules are actually separate and distinct contellations, not the same one.

2. Ophiuchus cannot have been discovered. Constellations are defined, not found. They have no basic in reality as a unit. Stars in two separate constellations may very well be and often are closer to each other than stars that are in the same constellation. We are effectively viewing three dimensional space in two dimensions.

There are actually times when the Sun is not in any constellation. Consider that constellations don't overlap. One could argue that astrology deals with symbolic relationships only and that there is no correspondence between astrology and astronomical objects. Of course, then the question is why would one refer to astronomical objects at all? Why not just use dates?

Yup, I agree completely Colin. I didn't find any rebuttles satisfyingly convincing...even though I wanted to.

One more to add to your list:

One article says Ophiuchus was just recently 'found'....while the others say astrologers have 'known' about Ophiuchus for hundreds of years.....tsk tsk.



This one I totally noticed in the article with the map. Also, Aries isn't even ON the band in that map! :zoinks:

I was born in a void. :redance:

Alex, I'll take famous quotes about Astrology for $200


"Any relationship between Astrology and Reality is purely coincidental and accidental "


...... Vick 2003 :P

But in Nick's case, they're both evil twins :nyanya:

One thing I can say....

Symbols have been used for thousands of years to help people relate to different concepts. It would be easy to say that the constellations and what they represent were used to help people understand the concept behind astrology. They could have just as easily chosen tree species, I suppose, or anything that the people of the time could relate to....and at that time, it was nature and the 'stars' that were prominent in people's lives.

Its Aries Baby B)