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Sherie 12-02-2002 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by Shok+Dec 2 2002, 01:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Shok @ Dec 2 2002, 01:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
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Originally posted by -gigi@Dec 2 2002, 01:05 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Colin
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@Dec 2 2002, 03:45 PM
How often do people get a feeling something bad is going to happen and then put on their seatbelt?
I do that all the time. Nothing bad ever happens.


Well ya know, the seconds it took you to put on your belt detered you from that horrible accident you missed by only that many seconds....hehehe :nyanya:

I believe in coincidence. I believe in 'gifts'. I believe in a cosmic force ruling our lives. However, I don't believe that Shok knew that Sherie was going to say that. :gbounce:

I knew you would say that too[/b][/quote]
I smell fire...oh wait look it's your pants!! :biglaugh:

Almighty Colin 12-02-2002 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by Shok@Dec 2 2002, 04:51 PM
amazingly there is another thread going on with the word douche and john edwards in it. Could Collin have known that later there would have been this thread using the same words?

Coinkydink?? :unsure:

I THINK NOT!

Torone 12-03-2002 06:23 AM

Two things...

I am a bona fide dowser.

Any dream that I can remember in detail always comes true (I rarely dream at all).

cj 12-03-2002 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by MattK@Dec 2 2002, 03:10 PM
If you think you believe in psychics you might want to read a couple books by James Randi before using their revelations to make any major decisions. He will give 1 million dollars to anyone who can prove they have psychic powers, so far after 20+ years no one has come close to winning.

check out his web site:
James Randi Educational Foundation

click on "Books and Videos", my favorite book is called
"Flim-Flam! Psychics, ESP, Unicorns, and other Delusions."

B) :agrin: :moon:

cool, i'm going to do something similar to this

I'm going to give $1 million dollars to someone who can prove that god created adam and eve and the whole world was created in 7 days.

*scoff*

come on, we are talking about 'beliefs', NOT based on facts, but based on peoples interpretations of facts that become ordered and altered according to what suits us most at the time.

why is believing in psychics, astrology, past lives etc, any less credible than basing ones entire life on the bible?!

I've had enough odd experiences in my life to believe that there is *something* that happens on a different dimension to the one we live on.

Almost everyone has a story of feeling something wierd when a loved one dies or is sick or when a major event occurs. Some may be lying ... but I know that my experience was real, I don't expect anyone to believe it however. These connections are things we feel in our bones.

Colin, you said you called your grandfather and he was out of town but you had a feeling something happened to him. Maybe it did. Maybe something terrible happened, but he didn't want to bother you with it. Maybe he almost stepped in front of a car, but escaped without even realizing it and you got a signal that wasn't needed afterall!

ok, i'm reaching here LMAO

Almighty Colin 12-03-2002 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by cj@Dec 3 2002, 08:20 AM
why is believing in psychics, astrology, past lives etc, any less credible than basing ones entire life on the bible?!


They're equally not credible!

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That is a very interesting question in your post though. Why should anyone be more prone to believe things that have a body of evidence for them rather than not? I dont know if you want to understand where I am coming from and it doesn't matter to me but I DO want to understand where you are coming from.

I guess I would begin by asking you why you don't believe in Santa Claus or the Boogy monster. More or less - what are the reasons for your disbelief in various things - whatever they may be? Do you believe in Mohammed as a prophet? Do you believe in Christ as savior? Do you believe aliens built the pyramids? If no to any of these questions - why not?

Almighty Colin 12-03-2002 08:26 AM

Do you think all beliefs should be taken equally seriously because they are beliefs? If I told you we are all nothing but robots placed on earth 3 days ago complete with memories of our "pasts", would you take that seriously? Why or why not?

cj 12-03-2002 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by Colin@Dec 3 2002, 08:30 AM
That is a very interesting question in your post though. Why should anyone be more prone to believe things that have a body of evidence for them rather than not? I dont know if you want to understand where I am coming from and it doesn't matter to me but I DO want to understand where you are coming from.

I guess I would begin by asking you why you don't believe in Santa Claus or the Boogy monster. More or less - what are the reasons for your disbelief in various things - whatever they may be? Do you believe in Mohammed as a prophet? Do you believe in Christ as savior? Do you believe aliens built the pyramids? If no to any of these questions - why not?

>>Why should anyone be more prone to believe things that have a body of evidence for them rather than not?

I guess I feel a lot more comfortable believing in things I can see or probably more so, things i *feel* ... there are things I have known to be fact all my life, related to events and paths in my life. how do I know them? i have no idea, i just *feel* that this is the way it is.

I *knew* I was going to do something artistic, on a computer ... I knew this before there was color monitors ... In my final year of high school i was introduced to this amazing program called 'photoshop'. I smiled to myself, and thought aaaaah this is what i was waiting for!! I don't really know how to explain it any better ...

>>More or less - what are the reasons for your disbelief in various things - whatever they may be?

I believe ANYTHING is possible ... how do I know what's true or not? i have no clue!! I would never say I don't *believe* in something, and I'll use religion as my example.

I don't know if there is a god, or a heaven or hell, or angels or a jesus or any of that, I think these people probably existed and fables of life in this time have become something our lives are based on. Now consider how many things in our lives are based on religion, on the 'belief' that the bible is the book of rules. When you 'swear on a bible', what are you really doing?! your putting your hand on a book and saying 'yes sir, i wont lie', and we use this as a way of getting cold blooded murderers and rapists to tell the truth?!

let me reverse the question, why do we believe in all of this? What evidence has been presented on the truth of the bible? Do people really get abducted by aliens? Is nick really a crook?

Almighty Colin 12-03-2002 08:54 AM

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Originally posted by cj@Dec 3 2002, 08:50 AM

let me reverse the question, why do we believe in all of this?

let me reverse the question, why do we believe in all of this?

I don't.
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What evidence has been presented on the truth of the bible?

Not much. Not enough.
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Do people really get abducted by aliens?

Do people really THINK they have been abducted by aliens? That is what really want to know.
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Is nick really a crook?

Crook. n. One who makes a living by dishonest methods.
Define dishonest.

Almighty Colin 12-03-2002 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by cj@Dec 3 2002, 08:50 AM

I believe ANYTHING is possible

So then it is possible that not everything is possible. Paradox.

cj 12-03-2002 09:00 AM

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Originally posted by Colin+Dec 3 2002, 09:04 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Dec 3 2002, 09:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--cj@Dec 3 2002, 08:50 AM

I believe ANYTHING is possible

So then it is possible that not everything is possible. Paradox.[/b][/quote]
fuck


checkmate

LOL

what would it mean anyway if NOTHING WAS POSSIBLE?
what is nothing?

:agrin:

gigi 12-03-2002 02:18 PM

Colin,

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What evidence has been presented on the truth of the bible?

Not much. Not enough.

Not much. Not enough. This insinuates there is SOME sort of evidence, be it minute or not....elaborate please.

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what would it mean anyway if NOTHING WAS POSSIBLE?
what is nothing?

Nothing IS possible.

What is nothing?

Well, according to Kabbalists who believe the tree of life is a map of the universe:

"One must begin, as a mathematician would, with the idea of Zero. Absolute Zero, which turns out on examination to mean any quantity that one may choose, but not, as the layman may first suppose, Nothing, in the 'absense-of anything' vulgar sense of the word.

The Kabbalists expanded this idea of Nothing, and got a second kind of Nothing which they called 'Ain Soph" - "Without Limit". (This idea seems not unlike that of space.) They then decided that in order to interpret this mere absence of any means of definition, it was necessary to postulate the Ain Soph Aur - "Limitless Light". (The Space-Time Continuum?)

All this is evidently without form and void; these are abstract conditions, not positive ideas. The next step must be the idea of position. One must formulate this thesis: If there is anything except Nothing, it must exist within this Boundless Light; within this space; within this inconceivable Nothingness, which cannot exist as Nothingness, but has to be conceived of as Nothingness composed of the annihilation of two imaginary opposites. Thus appears THE POINT, which has 'neither parts nor magnitude, but only position'."

And from there, it goes on to describe the formation of matter, motion, time and more.

Hehehe, so there you have it.
:bjump:


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